I have a Lupron injection every 90 days and I’m due now. (Been taking it since dec 2015)
Also, Just finished 28 radiation treatments so pretty tired. I cancelled going in on Monday as I was not in the right frame of mind and very nervous due to COvid 19
My appointment is at 6:30pm so late in the evening and hopefully avoid the hospital busy periods.
Kaiser don’t seem concerned but I am. Would it matter if I waited 2-3 weeks or should I just suck it up.
Very apprehensive.
Thanks
Dermot.
I had a 9 am but changed it as you have to wait in line to get checked in whilst 6:30pm is super quiet. I can’t believe I am even asking the question but feel exposed going to the main hospital. Radiation was done at a small location away from the main hospital.
Thank you sir.
I like the late afternoons also.... I don’t like going to any hospital ever since icu. Stay strong . Recover well . Isolate completely..... RT runs the tank down . Rest up ! 🌵
IMO folks are over reacting to going to medical facilities for treatment, like injections. Stay 6’ from others, except for whoever is administering the injection of course, use hand sanitizers and wipes. What’s the big deal???? This isn’t an airborne disease...
What’s the big deal. I’m stage 4 having had chemo and now just finished Radiation last Wednesday. I’m entitled to feel somewhat concerned and nervous as I have a wife and 2 kids to think of.
You sure do need to use ultimate caution . I agree 1000%
He is very compromised right now. I understand him. I m years away from Rt and still don’t want to play with cv19 either. Good luck to you and your family. 🍀
Covid 19 definitely IS an airborne disease. Clouds of cough particulate can remain air suspended for up to three hours.
This means you can walk thru an area a hour and a half after an infected person has passed thru and coughed and still become infected. A n95 rated or better mask with gloves and glasses or sunglasses is a must anytime in public.
I’d suggest long sleeves while out and careful decontamination after returning home. Washing following the recommended regimen absolutely necessary, generous use of hand sanitizer recommended as well. Info on how long the virus can live on different surfaces is available all over. In a low humidity dry location , leaving paper or dry clothes out in the garage for 5 - hours or more is beneficial. Leave your shoes in garage or on porch outside house. Heat lamps speed up virus kill, UV germ lamps even better. This as VERY serious stuff .... Please protect yourself and your loved ones.
Also ... because covid19 is mainly spread from airborne particles with touch a close 2nd ( it’s finally admitted, all over today’s news ) ... I suggest when getting into your car / vehicle .... to close the ventilation system to “ recirculating “ rather than the fresh air input choice on your dashboard controls. If you aren’t wearing a mask in your car , you could drive right thru a dense cloud of suspended cough particulate ( from people on the street or that vehicle right in front of you ... or even one of these from two hours ago ) and have it enter your car thru your “ open to the air “ fresh air system.
I know n95 masks are hard to find, but many if not most people on this group tick off two of the main covid19 susceptibility boxes .... over 60 , and immune system compromised!!! Try to find a mask to wear whenever outside, even a horribly inadequate homemade mask , is better than nothing. Those boxes are the “ death likely “ if infected boxes.
In today’s news you will finally see what medical professionals have known for a long time .... just talking with an infected person ( super carriers have no symptoms and can only be found by testing ) .... or breathing in air from a infected person that has been there recently ... is dangerous.
This is real serious stuff ... please protect yourself , that helps protect you, your loved ones and the rest of us as well.
💪💪💪💪👍👍
It probably will be no better in 2-3 weeks
Last week, I went for a Lupron shot and blood draw at UCSD. It seemed safer than grocery shopping because everyone was following protocols. I would recommend going in the morning if possible, because the airborne and surface virus accumulation, if any, will be lowest then. Take a face mask and stand, don't sit, as far away from everyone as possible. If the waiting room is crowded, stand outside and tell the receptionist to text you when they are ready. The nurse put on a full gown for the injection. It's really safe, but use precautions.
I would take the injection. Look, the medical staff do not want to catch the virus either and will take precautions. You take the same precautions and move on. It is not likely to get any better for 3 months or so. When you get home, strip and clothes go straight to the washer while you go straight to the shower after washing your hands,,,.
GD
My husband has an appt at 8am. He has to get his xgeva shot. I am also nervous going to the hospital. Are you sure its not airborne? I'm not so sure anyone knows for certain.
Yes, it can be transmitted through the air, it's airborne up to 3 hours acc to this report...
I took my 94 year old Mom to the Hospital yesterday. I am not allowed in. Extremely safe protocol is being employed. Everyone has plastic gloves and masks on. All the best. My next Lupron shot is April 26.
I'd go now. I think the risk will be greater in 3 weeks. I have to get mine in May. I wish it was due now.
Wear a mask and glasses.....carry your hand sanitizer. The hospital usually has plenty but be self sufficient.....Blue Skies
we had an appointment on April 3 for loupron , and scans. Appointment was cancelled and they are now making it for May . We will be 5 weeks late for shot and scans and I really don't see where it will be much better then. Hillman is 100 miles from our home and they dont want him exposed.
I have a Lupron shot scheduled for tomorrow, the hospital I go to has a pretty strict protocol. They call the day before and ask a series of questions related to symptoms, travel etc. When you get there before entering the hallway where the oncologist office is they have a station with a nurse and healthcare admin both in masks where they take your temperature and ask those questions again. Everything is recorded, masks are available, and only patients beyond that point. Social distancing in waiting area, pens are sanitized and there is a clean and dirty bin for them, hand sanitizer available wherever you go. Pretty good measures in my opinion, but I’ll still get in and get out ASAP.
I’m still gonna get my shot despite not being thrilled about going in there, gotta continue treating the beast I know.
Ed
I'm going for a Lupron shot at 9AM tomorrow. I expect things to get worse rather than better in the coming weeks in Louisiana, so no time like the present. Will take the usual precautions.
I'm on a version of BAT (bipolar androgen therapy) that I devised, using oral DES (diethylstilbestrol). Just reordered a 90 day supply of 2mg for under $50 & it's in the mail. When I started on DES, I never dreamed that not having to leave the house would be such a benefit.
The 90 day injection doesn't suddenly stop working. You can afford to delay.
Right now, everyone is scrambling to get their act together. Its chaotic. Not long ago, the local hospital told staff not to wear masks when dealing with patients not suspected of being infected with COVID-19. They didn't want to increase the anxiety level of other patients. Management certainly increased the anxiety level of staff & were soon forced to make masks optional. Just yesterday, they changed that to mandatory. Three policy changes within 3 weeks!
Until the dust settles I'm not trusting anything I hear from authority figures who have ulterior motives or incomplete understanding.
-Patrick
FOR EVERYONE:
I wish to apologize for my earlier post where I was skeptical of CV19. My Bad....
The following is from XXXXXXXXXXXX physician, whose daughter is an Asst. Prof in infectious diseases at Johns Hopkins University, quite informative.
* The virus is not a living organism, but a protein molecule (DNA) covered by a protective layer of lipid (fat), which, when absorbed by the cells of the ocular, nasal or buccal mucosa, changes their genetic code. (mutation) and convert them into aggressor and multiplier cells.
* Since the virus is not a living organism but a protein molecule, it is not killed, but decays on its own. The disintegration time depends on the temperature, humidity and type of material where it lies.
* The virus is very fragile; the only thing that protects it is a thin outer layer of fat. That is why any soap or detergent is the best remedy, because the foam CUTS the FAT (that is why you have to rub so much: for 20 seconds or more, to make a lot of foam).
By dissolving the fat layer, the protein molecule disperses and breaks down on its own.
* HEAT melts fat; this is why it is so good to use water above 77 degrees Fahrenheit for washing hands, clothes and everything. In addition, hot water makes more foam and that makes it even more useful.
* Alcohol or any mixture with alcohol over 65% DISSOLVES ANY FAT, especially the external lipid layer of the virus.
* Any mix with 1 part bleach and 5 parts water directly dissolves the protein, breaks it down from the inside.
* Oxygenated water helps long after soap, alcohol and chlorine, because peroxide dissolves the virus protein, but you have to use it pure and it hurts your skin.
* NO BACTERICIDE OR ANTIBIOTIC SERVES. The virus is not a living organism like bacteria; antibodies cannot kill what is not alive.
* NEVER shake used or unused clothing, sheets or cloth. While it is glued to a porous surface, it is very inert and disintegrates only
-between 3 hours (fabric and porous),
-4 hours (copper and wood)
-24 hours (cardboard),
- 42 hours (metal) and
-72 hours (plastic).
But if you shake it or use a feather duster, the virus molecules float in the air for up to 3 hours, and can lodge in your nose.
* The virus molecules remain very stable in external cold, or artificial as air conditioners in houses and cars.
They also need moisture to stay stable, and especially darkness. Therefore, dehumidified, dry, warm and bright environments will degrade it faster.
* UV LIGHT on any object that may contain it breaks down the virus protein. For example, to disinfect and reuse a mask is perfect. Be careful, it also breaks down collagen (which is protein) in the skin.
* The virus CANNOT go through healthy skin.
* Vinegar is NOT useful because it does not break down the protective layer of fat.
* NO SPIRITS, NOR VODKA, serve. The strongest vodka is 40% alcohol, and you need 65%.
* LISTERINE IF IT SERVES! It is 65% alcohol.
* The more confined the space, the more concentration of the virus there can be. The more open or naturally ventilated, the less.
* You have to wash your hands before and after touching mucosa, food, locks, knobs, switches, remote control, cell phone, watches, computers, desks, TV, etc. And when using the bathroom.
* You have to Moisturize dry hands from so much washing them, because the molecules can hide in the micro cracks. The thicker the moisturizer, the better.
* Also keep your NAILS SHORT so that the virus does not hide there.
-JOHNS HOPKINS HOSPITAL
Good Luck, Good Health and Good Humor.
j-o-h-n Thursday 04/02/2020 7:48 PM DST
Good morning. I got to Kaiser around 6:15pm to be met by security checks. One entrance in and one out. Normal questions asked by the nurse about how I feel today have I been abroad etc. Temperature checked and a nice sticker that stated I was screened and free to attend infusion. This is normally a busy hospital even at 6:15 pm. It was a ghost town and the infusion ward was empty bar 2 other patients. I felt so much more comfortable with this and pleased it’s all done. Thank you for your support.
Best
Dermot Pat Brennan
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