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Life expectancy after chemo(docetexal) is just 2 years in advance PC? Told by doctor

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Summary:

Age:55

16/06/19 PSA: 400

(some ayurvedic treatment)

26/07/19 PSA: 697

26/07/19 I-PET scan : heterogenous markers suv (max 52) including mets

Doctor suggested luporide every after 3 months including chemotherapy (docetexal) every after 21 days

20/10/19 PSA: 0.72

30/10/19 II-PET scan: tumor size reduced to suv max 20, in two more areas, no new lesion seen

Total chemos: 6 cycles

Doctors suggested to stop chemo but continue luprolide

Follow up every after 3 months and next PET scan after 6 months

One important point he told which is a matter of concern that a patient life is just 2 years or 2.5 years not more than that. Is it true?? I am really upset...kindly tell is it really true in such cases ?

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You can do better than that dismal stat . I was initially was told that I had 36 months . I’m working on five years. Others have even better stories of beating dismal life expectancies . We all will be cut short . This makes how we live today that much more valuable . Don’t believe that you have an expiration date on you . Break the mold .

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Thanks!!!

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You must advocate for yourself . Don’t feed into negativity it will do you no good . Peace and good luck you.. It ain’t over til the fat lady sings .

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Schwah

Most of those stats are 10 years old. Many more weapons in the tool box today than there were for those stats.

Schwah

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Cheerr

Hi Nick,

I think only 3 Chemo cycles must have been completed since you started them in July end. So did the MO stop the chemo post 3 cycles only?

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Nick2019 in reply toCheerr

No he stopped it after the completion of 6 th cycle

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snoraste

Simple answer: whichever way you look at it, your doctor's number is wrong. Long term follow up on STAMPEDE and LATITUDE trials shows the median survival to be approx 5years. Average survival (which is the "expected" survival) is much longer, because the survival curve is not a "normal" curve: it's left-tail heavy, meaning more events upfront early-on, and fewer events as we move along. It may sound trivial, but the longer you survive, the longer your overall expected survival.

Also keep in mind that all the numbers are backward looking and don't take into consideration current and future new treatments.

My suggestion to you: don't think about these relatively useless numbers. Just focus on learning more about your disease and treatment options, and take charge of it.

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Nick2019 in reply tosnoraste

Thanks!!

My reply to this one is simple. If the 2.5 year life expectancy was true, you’d be texting with the afterlife on this site...I would’ve been dead a long time ago.

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True , me too ..

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CalBear74

Nick, I just hit my seventh anniversary on Lupron. I have never had chemo or any other form of treatment except Casodex with the Lupron for the first four years. I am still hormone sensitive. Your doctors statistics are very dated and I would worry about how current he is on treatment Options. I personally would find a leading medical oncologist.

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Roll on CalBear ...😎

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RatTruck in reply toCalBear74

Hi CalBear74, Did you catch it in the beginning, or did it metastasize? Thank! Joanne

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CalBear74 in reply toRatTruck

When I was diagnosed there were two pelvic metastases. Those metastases are no longer visible after seven years of Lupron, Casodex for four, and I have been taking an over-the-counter supplement called inositol hexaphosphate/IP 6/phytate since Summer, 2015.To appreciate the extensive Research on the supplement, you need to read AKM Shamsuddin’s 2011 text on “IP6 and Inositol “ available at Amazon. On my personal page you will find past posts regarding IP6.

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jmb23

After BCR my MO said I had 3 to 8 years to live. Received two shots of Eligard three months apart that brought my PSA down to undetectable. Been on a hormone vacation for 23 months with a current PSA of .6 as of October. When they give you an expiration date just try to take it with a grain of salt. As mentioned, they are based on very old statistics. Good luck!!!!

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Enjoy the vacation ..

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Pleroma

Given your age and excellent response to chemo, you have many, many more years ahead of you.

The marker is the PSA value. Hopefully the Lupron will get it to below 0.1 (undetectable).

If not, there are many other options to get it there.

Exercise and a healthy diet will help your cause.

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jrodrig

Maybe your doctor is trying to say that if you only have chemiotherapy your expectancy of life is about those years, but I'm afraid he would have to told you that there are others treatments, a full tool box. I use to visit some good websites to descover new therapies. I had docetaxel like you and ADT and after 2,5 years the cancers has shown activity in a lumbar vertebra. I had 3 sessions of SBRT, now I am waiting for image results, but I hope that are good because my blood test showed that the tumoral index is decreasing.

So, try to thing about all the science is trying to do for us and you will be quieter.

Regards

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Zetabow

Mine said 44 months last year, I've also got high very PSA (1386), Mets to every bone in my Skeleton and extensive damage to Marrow in both Femurs. That being said the combined Chemo and ADT got my PSA right down and scan showed good improvement with Lymph nodes and Mets, so I'm feeling a LOT more optimistic that I did last Nov.

Just had my 3 month check up today, blood numbers are still good.

When so advanced things can go downhill pretty fast but I have read a few stories of people beating the odds so don't give up hope.

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Magnus1964

My first surgeon at Johns Hopkins told me I had 5-10 years. That was 27 years ago. Never let anyone tell you how long you have to live. You have never been on any ADT drugs. You could get a lot of good quality years out of these.

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j-o-h-n

Hey Nick the doctor is a Dick.....

Good Luck, Good Health and Good Humor.

j-o-h-n Saturday 11/02/2019 12:42 PM DST

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tallguy2

The stats are BS. Please ignore them. Each of us is different. "The only one who knows isn't telling."

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Nick2019

I am very thankful to all the members as you have provided valuable inputs. Keep encouraging others in such difficult times. There is always a ray of hope!!! May God bless you all...

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Shooter1 in reply toNick2019

Ignore that awful prediction. I was told 12-18 mo. max. 3 years later PSA at 0.120 and stable. On Xtandi 80 mg daily.

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Nick2019

Dear members

Doctors advised to take Alfoo tablet and Mirabegron 50 mg tablet at night before going to bed. Its been 5 days taking this medicine suddenly there is little swelling on face and fingers. Can patient continue these tablets during night? Kindly advice

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Nick2019

Updated on 04/11/2024AGE : 60

PSA ; 4.45 (04/112024)

TURP surgery on august 2024 Before TURP Urinary problem. Flow was uneven including pain

Everything went fine till sept 2024

Excessive blood in urine,

Including blood clots.

Kidney, liver reports sre normal

Only psa rises to 4.45

How to stop blood in urine?

Is now a major issue because urine culture test shows infection

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Nick2019

Recent reports

04/11/ 2024

Problem in passing urine, doctor advised for TURP

TURP done in August 2024

On 25 september there is blood in urine, again problem in passing urine, there were blood clots alao. IS IT ALARMING?

PSA 4.45 which is high than previous

(After 2.5 months of TURP)

LUPRON going on every after 3 months

Kindly advise

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