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Interesting online pharmacy. Has anyone used Valisure?

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Interesting online pharmacy. Has anyone used Valisure?

"Valisure, which stakes its reputation on testing all of the drugs it sells, says it has discovered DMF at high levels in more than 20 lots of valsartan distributed by a number of companies, including Aurobindo and Novartis. Some of those remain on the market."

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Along the same line- I contacted my PCP at Kaiser and voiced my concern re: the recall of Losartan. He said not to worry as the FDA hasn't sent out any warning re: their drug- implying it is safe to take. So I asked the Kaiser pharmacist where they get their losartan from and she showed my the bottle. It came from Aurobindo Pharma USA, Inc. East Windsor N.J. It says made in India. So I checked out that company and Aurobindo is a company in India supplying many countries with the ingredients for Losartan.

Now here is the kicker- The company says they have recalled a certain amount of lots of Losartan due to "lack of purity".

"In 2018[14] and 2019[15], Aurobindo Pharma USA recalled tablets containing valsartan due to the detection of N-Nitrosodiethylamine (NDEA) which is a probable human carcinogen."

The FDA has set a level of .27ppm as the cut off level for human safety. So the company did recall lots that exceeded that amount, but the lots that fell below that amount were not recalled. Since this fell w/i FDA guidelines, there is no notice to the users about the impurity in their product, and that is why Kaiser says it is safe to use. I would not want to be using .26ppm, thinking it is safe to use.

I just finished reading a book by an investigative reporter delving into the generic industry. It is an eye opener. The main culprits are China, India (mainly) and the FDA for not conducting a more rigorous control over the raw ingredients.

The book is called Bottle of Lies, by Katherine Eban. It is available in the public library system.

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That's what makes Valisure look interesting.

It appears that they proactively lóok out for your interests, in a way you can't do for yourself.

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arete1105 in reply to cesanon

But the question is- where are you going to get "pure" drugs? I don't think they are available.

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That someone is actually testing the generics makes me feel a lot better.

I used to go out of the way to use Walgreens.

A few years ago I discovered that Walgreens had outsourced their drug aquisition to save money. How do you think that was saving money? What corners were they cutting?

These guys are at least pretending to care. There's a lot of counterfeit stuff out there.

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After reading that book, I don't think some companies will produce "clean" ingredients while letting others put out bad components. It is cheaper to produce bad ingredients, so there is no incentive to produce clean product when they can cut corners with bad product. India is all about making them as cheap as they can.

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