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VITAMIN D FIGHTS cancer - ‘slashes risk of cancer death by 13% -- Studies presented at the world’s biggest cancer summit

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"PLENTY of vitamin D slashes the risk of dying from cancer by 13 per cent or more.

Studies presented at the world’s biggest cancer summit all suggest more time outdoors or popping a daily pill could save thousands of lives.

Research has found that soaking up vitamin D can reduce risk of dying from cancer

An analysis of almost 80,000 adults by Michigan State University found those taking supplements were 13 per cent less likely to die of the disease in the following four years.

Lead researcher Dr Tarek Haykal told the American Society of Clinical Oncology annual conference in Chicago: “I would like to see more doctors consider prescribing vitamin D.”

In a second study, prostate tumour sufferers given statins and vitamin D saw their chances of dying fall by 38 per cent.

Research also reveals adults with low levels were more than twice as likely to develop pancreatic cancer."

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Magnus1964 profile image
Magnus1964

It's nice to have conformation on what I have been telling everyone on this website. I have been taking vitamin D3 for years on advice from a doctor.

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George71

Hi Nalakrats,

How long have you been taking 30,000 IU daily -- I've been taking 10,000 daily for 3 years since diagnosis -- I will consider upping the amount if you aren't having any side effects -- I take K2 with vitamin D3

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George71 in reply toGeorge71

I just found the following on pubmed:

"Results of daily oral dosing with up to 60,000 international units (iu) of vitamin D3 for 2 to 6 years in 3 adult males"

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/280...

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conagher in reply toGeorge71

Where do you find that quantity? 30000mcg is 30 mgs. I take a liquid D3 but no where near 30000mcg.

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Canoehead

What’s the benefit of taking vitamin K with D, and the downside of not taking it? I vaguely recall reading about some controversy involving vitamin K.

in reply toCanoehead

Taking vitamin K2 with the D3 is supposed to push calcium into the bones instead of the circulatory system. This avoids the build up of calcium in the blood vessels and strengthens the bones.

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GoBucks

"I am not normal". That deserves a bwahahaha!

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j-o-h-n in reply toGoBucks

Folks,

GoBucks post that ""He is not normal". That deserves a bwahahaha!"

was posted by his wife.

Good Luck, Good Health and Good Humor.

j-o-h-n Monday 06/10/2019 4:23 PM DST

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Magnus1964

What brand of D3 do you take? I am dubious of some brands.

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podsart

What blood level of vitamin D do your lab tests show?

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FCoffey

This is very old news, what's amazing is that it has taken ASCO newly 15 years to catch up. This speaks more about the reflexive hostility to vitamins and supplements by the cancer industry than to any new science.

The Institute of Medicine (IOM) now called the National Academy of Medicine (NAM) published a recommended RDA of 600 IU per day based on a fundamental error (meaning truly stupid) in their understanding of basic statistics.

As discussed in A Statistical Error in the Estimation of the Recommended Dietary Allowance for Vitamin D

mdpi.com/2072-6643/6/10/4472

The fools at the IOM who interpreted 10 supplementation studies declared that "600 IU per day for individuals 1 to 70 years of age will achieve serum 25-hydroxyvitamin D (25(OH)D) levels of 50 nmol/L or more in 97.5% of healthy individuals. Serum 25(OH)D is the established proxy for vitamin D status and levels of 50 nmol/L or more have been shown to benefit bone health and to prevent disease and injury."

The method they used to determine RDA is completely wrong.

"The correct interpretation of the lower prediction limit is that 97.5% of study averages are predicted to have values exceeding this limit. This is essentially different from the IOM’s conclusion that 97.5% of individuals will have values exceeding the lower prediction limit."

When the authors do the math correctly, they find that "8895 IU of vitamin D per day may be needed to accomplish that 97.5% of individuals achieve serum 25(OH)D values of 50 nmol/L or more." That's nearly a factor of 15 times higher than the flawed IOM recommendation.

The National Academy of Sciences (NAS) created a statistical panel to review NAM's calculations in 2016 or 2017, but I have been unable to locate a copy of their report.

The public health implications of this inexcusable error are tremendous. The obstinate refusal to confront and rectify the error takes this from carelessness to criminal negligence. Millions of people have been harmed.

The best way to determine Vitamin D isn't by daily dose but by taking a simple blood test. We all respond differently and get different amounts of sun on our skin. The commercially motivated fetish for sun blockers has only exacerbated this public health crisis.

Doctors who actually know about Vitamin D typically recommend a level between 50-70 ng/ml for optimal health and general disease prevention, and 70-100 ng/ml as an adjunct to the treatment of heart disease and cancer. I take 10,000 IU a day, 70,000 per week, and that put me at about 75 ng/ml last winter. I'll adjust that dose up by about 30,000 IU a week in the fall and test again in the winter months, when sun exposure is least.

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podsart

Thanks

Just understand- I thought one had to watch upper limit re toxicity as vitamin D is oil based rather than the water based vitamins which kidneys can easily excrete any excesses via urine - clearly I am missing something as you are comfortable with 3x upper limit and know what u are doing

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podsart

Thanks

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conagher

Can you at least say places like Walgreens CVS GNC AMAZON. Some suggestions would be helpful. I'm pretty remote where we live.

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NPfisherman

Thanks for posting George...I take 20,000 iu qd....will have a level soon....will report back....not cutting back with the sunshine...

Fish

in reply toNPfisherman

20 k wow!

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conagher

I've been taking D3 K2 for about a year but not in that amount. I know D3 is not 🚀 science. Just haven't been able to find 2000mcg per drop. I'll keep looking.

Thanks for you taking the time to respond

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George71 in reply toconagher

I take it in capsule form -- Pure brand -- I get from local independent compounding pharmacy 5000 IU capsules -- I got some 10,000 IU capsules from Walmart also.

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George71 in reply toGeorge71

correction the 10,000 IU from Walmart are gel caps -- Natures Bounty brand

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conagher in reply toGeorge71

Thanks George. Pills are all but impossible for me to take. Throat cancer does wonders. Trying hard to survive Agent Orange.

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George71 in reply toconagher

Hi conagher,

I have taken the liquid in the past -- 10 drops -- Ortho Molecular Products brand it contains K2 10 mg and 1000 UI D3 per drop.

I too did Vietnam -- 2 tours -- so far only PCa

I'm going to up D3 to 20000 for 6 months as see what my levels are -- the last time I was tested my blood level was 60 -- I can go much higher -- I've read where some people living near the equator have levels at 100 and above naturally and have very low levels of all types of cancer compared to US population.

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conagher

I realize you can't prescribe. I'm been and still doing research. Thanks

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GranPaSmurf

A few years ago, an endocrinologist put a scare in me about taking too much Vitamin D. I checked out the Costco D3 I was taking and found I was taking way more than he reccomended. I went to a lower concentration. I've been on again, off again about taking even the lower dose of the D3 supplement.

Reading these knowledgeable posts, I'm realizing it's time for me to get serious about getting a goodly amount of D3 supplementation. Thanks guys!

A similar story goes with Vitamin K. There is a possible danger with heart patients who take Coumadin. Vitamin K neutralizes the Coumadin effect. I've steered away from Vitamin K since I am also diagnosed with Heart Failure. I don't, in fact, take Coumadin...I take Plavix. It has no known interactions with Vitamin K. It's just that I haven't put much thought to it until now. Again, thanks guys! I am extremly thankful for this group.

Since I have bone METS, all the bone support I can get...can't hurt.

Vitamin D for me . As well as ten others ..

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