Corresponded with MR. BIRM...Dr. Cevallos this week Re. Birm 7X and my condition

[greatjohn]

he suggested by email that I take 2.5 ml at breakfast...2.5 ml at lunch and 2.5 ml at dinner of the 7X Birm. As I have only done the "regular" BIRM...not the "high test".....I can't wait to see what this does. I had been feeling great on the regular...but I have run out over the past week as I was waiting to hear back from him and get the new "higher strength" ordered. It has been a "back to feeling crappy and tired and weak kind of week". Can't wait to see, like I said, what this new 7X will be like. He suggests that it will STOP all met growth and shrink them...and possibly eliminate. Time will tell. I just hope I feel good.

FYI so I don't have to answer everyone asking the same question. It's appx 125.00 per 4 ounce bottle. AND my "prescription" is for appx 2 bottles per month. So product plus shipping (for me) was appx 259.00. (per month)

I DO NOT promote this to anyone, just wanted to share my experiences with it. If you have not seen them...look back at my earlier "BIRM" posts. I've been almost speechless by pain, weakness and fatigue RELIEF that I have gotten using the regular BIRM available online from Ebay, etc.

John

[NPfisherman]

Glad you are feeling well, John....with the new 7x....you'll be like the ad for Keds....you will run faster and jump higher..... stop met growth and shrink tumors...hoping for the best for you...

Fish

[greatjohn in reply to NPfisherman]

A girl (guy) can only dream! From your lips to god's ears.

[greatjohn]

Pictures of food forthcoming....

Tonight's dinner was a chicken and vegetable stir fry with rice and organic rice ramen noodles. We ate too quickly to photograph...lol.

[Apollo123]

Hi I’ve had the same response to BIRM, I only realised how good it was when my shipment failed to arrive and I stopped taking it for two weeks. It’s a great relief on Zytiga from the symptoms like fatigue. I haven’t tried aggressive dosage but if you keep us in the loop with how you get on I will be ordering it. 👍

[greatjohn in reply to Apollo123]

"Follow" me and I will surely be posting updates in the very near future ! I'm ready for Miracles!

John

[Litlerny]

$259 a month. Yikes! Aren’t there any street corner BIRM dealers in trench coats or hoodies who can procure it for less? I wonder why mainstream pharma hasn’t jumped on the BIRM bandwagon.

[Trecento in reply to Litlerny]

Thank goodness they haven't - the cost would no doubt escalate to $10k a month and the original BIRM people systematically discredited.

[Litlerny in reply to Trecento]

Good point, Trecento! 😎

[Garbonzeaux]

GreatJ,

I posted a month or so ago about "creakiness" (stiff joints & sore muscles) likely caused by Lupron. Since then I have started taking BIRM twice a day, the low octane stuff for starters. Tasty! My creakiness is indeed better, but can't be sure of the cause & effect. I also stepped up my exercise somewhat, added sulforaphane to my regimen, had my first prolia shot, plus it was late in my lupron cycle. Too many variables, not enough observations. Glad it's working for you.

Incidentally, I've now had 4 Drs decline to prescribe metformin for me, including one whose name most folks here would recognize.

[greatjohn in reply to Garbonzeaux]

I had to get metformin from my primary care physician. Oncologist wouldn't do it. Did you read comment above from someone who was taking BIRM and feeling great and then his shipment was late and he started feeling crappy again? Same thing that happened to me. Definitely works wonders for so.some people.

John

[Litlerny in reply to Garbonzeaux]

Like greatjohn, my oncologist couldn't (or wouldn’t) prescribe Metformin for me. He suggested that I check with my primary care doc about it. Since I was running A1c’s at over 7, and daily glucose levels over 100, he gave me the Rx for it. Been on it about 2 years now. I think it does help keep the PCa down...not sure how...either by its own action or by improving the efficacy of the ADT drugs.

[Garbonzeaux in reply to Litlerny]

My primary care Dr. is one of those who declined to prescribe metformin. My glucose level has been fairly consistently a smidgen below 100 for several years. Maybe 100 is the magic number, or something, but once it came in at 113, and primary care guy did not find that compelling. Guess I need to see what I can do to boost it up a couple hundred

[Litlerny in reply to Garbonzeaux]

My daily sugars were consistently in the 120-140 range over a 2 week period of 2x/day finger pricks, and my A1c was over 7 on 3 consecutive tests in a 9 month period. I think that’s what tipped the scales for getting my family doc to give me the Metformin Rx.

You could try eating a family size Hershey bar before going in for your blood test...but I wouldn’t recommend it. 😎

Also, I’ve heard /read that the supplement Berberine has a very similar effect to Metformin in terms of both lowering blood glucose levels and as a PCa fighter. But it also comes with a host of unpleasant side effects including liver toxicity, and should not be taken indefinitely. NOTE: (disclaimer) I’m not a doctor by any means, and everything I say should be taken with a grain...make that a block... of salt. I’m not recommending Berberine, just letting you know that some people consider it to be an alternative to Metformin. So, If you consider it, research it thoroughly before you leap into buying it. If you Google Berberine you will find a lot of articles, both pro and con, regarding its use as a PCa treatment.

[CalBear74 in reply to Garbonzeaux]

Garboneaux

There is a bioequivalent in nature, in fact, it may be the molecular model the pharma folks used in developing Metformin, as they did with Red Yeast Rice = Lovastatin. It is called berberine root which I originally started to knock down my A1c. It accomplished that and my PCP was happy to see a 1 point drop to 5.6 from the pre-diabetic range.

I take 2,000 mg. of Solaray Berberine root before each meal. That is 4 capsules.

Good Luck, CalBear74

[Trecento]

Thanks for this - I too have recentlr ordered one months' supply from Ecuador, but still haven't been invoiced. Similar claims via email that in 1 month my husband will feel much better, 2 months there should be evidence. Let's hope so - I'm encouraged by experiences reported within this forum. Please keep us posted, we will share results from Australia.

[greatjohn in reply to Trecento]

I hope for you the best!

John

[Trecento in reply to Trecento]

Further to this I can happily report that after 21 days of the concentrate 3 x per day, my husband's energy levels have definitely improved and he says he feels far less Zytiga (and or cancer-related) fatigue. Here's hoping it continues, and has a positive impact on the cancer itself. So pleased to have learnt of it through this forum.

[greatjohn in reply to Trecento]

Great news!

gJohn.

[sujkap]

I have ordered the regular BIRM from amazon for my dad, 88yrs -extensive mets. He’s on Firmagon and Xtandi. Will it interfere w xtandi ?

[greatjohn in reply to sujkap]

I have asked people and they said no....and I asked my oncologist's opinion about using it and she was positive. Hope it helps your dad.

All the best,

John

[j-o-h-n]

to greatjohn:

So what's the approximate cost of a 4 ounce bottle? What is your approximate prescription for a month? So what was the approximate cost to you (including shipping) per month?

My prison record reads: "This convict likes to break chops".

Good Luck, Good Health and Good Humor.

j-o-h-n Friday 02/08/2019 9:21 PM EST

[greatjohn in reply to j-o-h-n]

Exactly what I was expecting...lol.

[gusgold]

GJ,

where did you buy the Birm 7X from

Gus