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T/A ... What is your take on this

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Tall_Allen

I never get excited about mouse studies - everything works for those lucky mice.

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Todd1963 in reply toTall_Allen

Yeah.... lucky little shits. I was just curious how you viewed the science of what they are talking about.

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Tall_Allen in reply toTodd1963

The immune system is so complex, I can't even begin to guess. It is full of regulators - agonists and antagonists. There are also more redundant pathways than you can shake a stick at - you block one and others rise up to take its place. So far, immunotherapy has been disappointing for prostate cancer, but I am hopeful that a combined approach like theirs might have some benefit. I am skeptical when they speak generically about "cancer" as if all cancers are the same.

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ctarleton

I sometimes think about that old 1966 movie, Fantastic Voyage, where they put Raquel Welch in a sexy wet suit, put her in a submarine, then shrunk it all down and injected it into the blood stream to go fight things on a cellular level. I know it's unrealistic as hell, considering that there are over 30 trillion cells in the human body. But, Santa Claus somehow manages to defy the laws of physics and the mathematical "traveling salesman" problem, and make millions/billions of goodwill stops on a single night.

youtube.com/watch?v=-hjiVVi...

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Break60 in reply toctarleton

I’ll take Raquel in my bloodstream all day long! 👍

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pjoshea13

"“We believe we will offer in a year’s time a complete cure for cancer,” said Dan Aridor"

Hubris on this scale never goes unpunished.

-Patrick

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CalBear74 in reply topjoshea13

Patrick, note the article never discusses the most important issue: what is the financial status of the company? Are they currently looking for investors? Are they seeking to go from private to publicly traded soon? And the questions could go on and on about the financial picture. I have been in that world. Beware!

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pjoshea13 in reply toCalBear74

Yes, I assumed he was talking-up the company to attract $$$. But I'm naturally cynical.

-Patrick

in reply topjoshea13

Wait a minute, what about the other Israeli company that found a cure for cancer too.

Alpha Tau, nocamels.com/2018/11/alpha-...

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john205

Wait for the hype to fade and then see what the studies look like. Nice idea but years too soon to make such grandiose claims.

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Todd1963

I agree with all of you guys. I tend not to get too excited as well but every breakthrough is taking a little bite out of the puzzle and one day these claims will hold water

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Dayatatime

How many times have we heard or seen for that matter a "cure" is in the works. Duke came close with a hail Mary move curing one woman only a few weeks of certain death with neuroblastoma. It was such a discovery it was pushed through before trials were finished. It was all over the net and televised on 60 Minutes. The next person it was tried on killed them. It worked for some and not others and last I read they were doing other testing on different cancers, prostate included and that was in 2016. Haven't heard anything since. It seems the cures never come to fruition. To say they have a cure for cancer is a very broad statement.

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j-o-h-n

In the good ole days I would have taken Raquel over a cure... but alas, now I'll go for the cure...

Good Luck, Good Health and Good Humor.

j-o-h-n Tuesday 01/29/2019 7:06 PM EST

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