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Time to PSA Nadir ... following Radiation and Androgen Deprivation Therapy.

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New study below.

A number of studies have examined the prognostic value of the 'time to PSA nadir'.

"Two-hundred and four men from a prospective randomized controlled trial (RCT) involving radiation therapy with or without 6 months of androgen deprivation therapy (ADT) in unfavorable risk CaP at academic or community based centers in Massachusetts, enrolled between 1995 and 2001." "median follow-up {was} 18.17 years".

Men with a shorter time to PSA nadir, i.e. less than the median of 12 months, had increased risk of PCa-specific mortality - but only if the PSA nadir was ≥ 0.2 ng/ml.

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Urology. 2019 Jan 18. pii: S0090-4295(19)30066-4. doi: 10.1016/j.urology.2018.11.056. [Epub ahead of print]

Time to PSA Nadir and the Risk of Death from Prostate Cancer following Radiation and Androgen Deprivation Therapy.

Pike LRG1, Wu J2, Chen MH3, Loffredo M4, Renshaw AA5, Pfail J6, Kantoff PW7, D'Amico AV4.

Author information

1

Department of Radiation Oncology, Massachusetts General Hospital, Boston, MA; Department of Radiation Oncology, Brigham and Women's Hospital/Dana-Farber Cancer Institute, Boston, MA. Electronic address: lrgpike@gmail.com.

2

Department of Computer Science and Statistics, University of Rhode Island, South Kingstown, RI.

3

Department of Statistics, University of Connecticut, Storrs, CT.

4

Department of Radiation Oncology, Brigham and Women's Hospital/Dana-Farber Cancer Institute, Boston, MA.

5

Department of Pathology, Baptist Hospital and Miami Cancer Institute, Miami, Florida.

6

Mount Sinai School of Medicine, New York, NY.

7

Department of Medicine, Memorial Sloan Kettering Cancer Center, New York, NY.

Abstract

OBJECTIVE:

To assess whether the time to PSA nadir (TTN) has differential prognostic value in men who reach an undetectable versus detectable PSA nadir.

METHODS:

Two-hundred and four men from a prospective randomized controlled trial (RCT) involving radiation therapy with or without 6 months of androgen deprivation therapy (ADT) in unfavorable risk CaP at academic or community based centers in Massachusetts, enrolled between 1995 and 2001. Adjusted hazard ratios (AHR) of the risk of CaP-specific mortality (PCSM) calculated using Fine and Gray competing risk regression.

RESULTS:

After a median follow-up of 18.17 years, 160 men died; 30 (18.75%) of CaP. Amongst men with a PSA nadir ≥ 0.2 ng/ml, a TTN < median (12 months) was significantly associated with an increased PCSM-risk versus the median or more (AHR 5.07, 95%CI 2.10-12.23, p<0.001); whereas this association was not observed among men with a PSA nadir of <0.2 ng/ml, (AHR 9.9, 95%CI 0.23-433.8, p=0.23).

CONCLUSIONS:

Men with both a short TTN and detectable PSA nadir could be considered for entry on RCTs at a novel entry point prior to PSA failure at the time of PSA nadir to complete planned conventional ADT versus that plus agent(s) shown to improve outcomes in men with or at high risk of having castrate-resistant CaP.

Copyright © 2019. Published by Elsevier Inc.

KEYWORDS:

Androgen deprivation therapy; PSA nadir; Prostate cancer; Radiation therapy

PMID: 30664895 DOI: 10.1016/j.urology.2018.11.056

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I have seen similar results in earlier studies, but I'm impressed that this one is based on a median follow-up of 18.17 years. That's a lot of follow-up.

I am personally one of the lucky ones that had a PSA nadir of 0.07/0.08 only achieved five years (!) after radiation. It was a little nerve-wracking to see the PSA go up and down before then, but then cancer is always a nerve-wracking disease anyway.

Alan

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I personally believe the lowest PSA value reached is more important than the time taken to reach it, so was happy to see "but only if the PSA nadir was ≥ 0.2 ng/ml". Of course, my opinion is heavily influenced by my drop from 200+ to 0.08 in 3 months :-)

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pakb

I've been reading a lot about this. My husband is 18 mos in. PSA just got in to single digits. Thanks for posting.

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Great study. Thank you for sharing this

My original treatment was combo brachythetspy followed by six weeks 3D confirmal in 2000. Nadir 0.01 maintsined for fifteen years before started riding

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j-o-h-n Wednesday 01/23/2019 6:37 PM EST

Well, there you go, my rapid decline from PSA 1000+ to PSA 0.36 in 3 months actually sucks!

Published 2018

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Published 2009

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Something to talk about to my doc, since he participated with the published 2009 study...

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Did you have a 1000 PSA with no metastasis? PSMA PET scan?

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