BAT - Bipolar testosterone therapy - Advanced Prostate...

Advanced Prostate Cancer

22,370 members28,134 posts

BAT - Bipolar testosterone therapy

cesanon profile image
5 Replies

Just learned that Sartor at Tulane has 20+ patients where he is doing high testosterone to reset the prostate cancer, but doing it with just high testosterone, not the bipolar.

He thinks it's only the high level of testosterone that is doing the resetting.

Written by
cesanon profile image
cesanon
To view profiles and participate in discussions please or .
Read more about...
5 Replies
Fairwind profile image
Fairwind

Well in about a year, maybe two, we will know if he is right or not...More important than the Zytiga reset will be the cancers response to continuous high-dose testosterone..In the BAT trials, few if any of the test subjects had an explosive rise in their PSA...But this trial is not BAT. This is treating PC patients with high-dose testosterone continuously, trying to get Zytiga to work again after it has failed..Do you have a trial name or number ?

likelylost profile image
likelylost

My husband is a patient of Dr Sartor and has been since 2010. After the failure of xtandi, he was started on high dose testosterone with good results so far. Its been 2 months now and his psa has gone down, his liver enzymes and alk phos are now normal. Even better, he feels pretty good. Dr. Sartor is following his labs closely, and we realize that this will likely only last for a few months...at which time he will restart xtandi or zytiga, or possibly a clinical trial.

vandy69 profile image
vandy69

I was treated by Dr. Sartor in June 2017 with high dose testosterone with daily applications of AndroGel to my upper arms. Tried to get my T to 1000 after 6 years of ADT.

Never could get T that high but after 3 months PSA rose from 4 to 18, when we stopped this "experiment". Two months later scans found numerous lesions in my liver and I immediately started chemo with Docetaxel and Carboplatin. Did this running my T up cause liver lesions---we will never know, but I have my suspicions.

Best wishes. Never Give In.

Mark, Atlanta

Hirsch profile image
Hirsch

mark in Atlanta: your suspicions seem justified..

cesanon profile image
cesanon in reply toHirsch

Mark, do you have more information on this. Enen anecdotal info.

Not what you're looking for?

You may also like...

Bipolar Androgen Therapy (BAT)

After some time, Androgen Deprivation Therapy stops working and you must escalate to more toxic...
cesanon profile image

Testosterone Shock Therapy - BIPOLAR androgen therapy (BAT) - Where it is Available

What Doctors are currently doing Testosterone Shock Therapy? This is what I know so far: 1....
cesanon profile image

Testosterone therapy to... LOWER testosterone production?

I know there is plenty of talk here about BAT and TRT and SPT (i.e., supra-physiological levels of...
noahware profile image

What Are Reasons Not to Use Bipolar Androgen Therapy (BAT)?

Bipolar Androgen Therapy (BAT) is the alternation of Androgen Deprivation Therapy with high doses...
cesanon profile image

High Testosterone Therapy or BAT? Any Experiences??

Has anyone had High Testosterone Therapy? Or BAT? My husband has been through all available...
poppymom0211 profile image

Moderation team

Bethishere profile image
BethishereAdministrator
Number6 profile image
Number6Administrator
Darryl profile image
DarrylPartner

Content on HealthUnlocked does not replace the relationship between you and doctors or other healthcare professionals nor the advice you receive from them.

Never delay seeking advice or dialling emergency services because of something that you have read on HealthUnlocked.