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BIRM after just 3 doses (into day 2) Gator Blood

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I don't understand it...but after just one dose yesterday and one after breakfast this morning....my day has been much more energetic...I feel like I could run! Having a hard time sitting...actually feel antsy....I have been really exhausted...especially since adding Xtandi on top of Lupron 4 months ago. I've already done my lunch dose and I'm up at 4 pm giving my report here...NOT taking a nap...so it's been a strangely good day with LOTS more energy. May just be a coincidence...but I'm happy.

Also, although I have only lymph and bone involvement in pelvic area...I have had 2 lymph nodes under my left arm that have been hard and easy to find and at times painful....these have disappeared at some point since yesterday. I can NOT find them at all.

Very interesting .....this "gator blood"

has anyone had such crazy quick reaction to it? or is this just a coincidence? It feels good...no matter what.

John

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Bill...read about it on here...Put BIRM into search and read more. And then google "BIRM prostate Cancer" and you'll see a lot about it. I wouldn't declare it a miracle drug, but there is lots of stuff to read about it. Everyone orders it through Amazon...but I'm a big Ebay person (we're power sellers with a store on there)...so I looked on Ebay and bought it there. 54.00 or something like that...and free shipping and it got here QUICK. Read about it first, and make sure...I don't want to promote things...I just was giving my impression after reading about it for months and FINALLY biting the bullet and buying it.

good luck,

John

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Florida has it's charms.

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MontyB

greatjohn,

Which type are you using...the Immune Response Modulator or the System Natural Booster ?

Take Care,

Monty

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greatjohn in reply to MontyB

ebay.com/itm/BIRM-Natural-I...

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MontyB in reply to greatjohn

Thanks!

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yes, and I have been reading your posts for exactly that long....THANK YOU!

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HOPEFULSPOUSE

What dosage do you use?

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It's a measuring spoon that they give you done 3 times per day after meals.

John

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HOPEFULSPOUSE in reply to greatjohn

Thank you! My husband started Wednesday - 3ml 3x and then yesterday started 3ml 4X. He felt and immediate energy boost. I've now contact the company in California for the industrial strength. Will update about his reponse.

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greatjohn in reply to HOPEFULSPOUSE

I am so happy that this "share" is giving you a blessing. I just order 2 more bottles. I'm on my 8th day and it seems like a miracle ! ! !

All the best (and Late Happy Thanksgiving)..

John

p.s. by the way...my list of blessings to be thankful for yesterday (and every day) started with BIRM ! ! !

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HOPEFULSPOUSE in reply to greatjohn

Yes, thank you so much. I am so grateful for your post about this - got me researching all the Nalakrats posts again - it's what is so wonderful about this site. Thank you again and belated Happy Thanksgiving back to you!

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LF27

Way to go, John!

Every good day is a good day...

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greatjohn in reply to LF27

So true!

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Tonik25

At what stage would BIRM be most effective. My husband had RP in June and PSA undetectable since then but with Gleason 9 and SVI (although negative margins) I’m guessing it is only a matter of time to progression. Would you take BIRM at this stage to try and halt progression/metastasis? Or more useful at a later stage?

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greatjohn in reply to Tonik25

I advise people to Google Berm and make their own decisions. You can also search for it on this sight to see what has been said. Best of luck on your journey.

John

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joancarles

Where can I find information?

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greatjohn

Search BIRM on here or Google it.

Lots of information.

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joancarles in reply to greatjohn

Thanks

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joancarles

How is it working? You are happy?

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Cynthgob in reply to joancarles

I think the 7x concentrate is better for advanced cases. You can email the dr at birm. Mine ships from California . It’s appx 120$

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greatjohn in reply to Cynthgob

Do you have a link or phone number for this concentration?

John

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Cynthgob in reply to greatjohn

Consultas@birm.com.ec

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Cynthgob in reply to Cynthgob

I did email the dr first and gave him the diagnosis . His advice was 7x.

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Cynthgob in reply to Cynthgob

The dr at Birm is what I was referring to.

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Thank you.

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My dad is taking the 7x concentrate. We are getting it from there. It is upsetting his stomach, he takes it after food or with food. We know it’s the BIRM because he doesn’t have any issues with his stomach when not taking it. Have you had this issue at all?

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No issue

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greatjohn

It's only been a couple of days now...but so far...yes.

Read all about it first, as I did, and make your own informed judgment.

Good luck

John

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Dan59

Question for Nal or anyone else that would know? Does Birm have any effect to lower platelets or red cell? Thank You

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Drcrunch

Got mine from a u of Miami doctor. Took it for three months. My psa went up , so he sent me to another doctor for zytiga.

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greatjohn in reply to Drcrunch

Interesting. I'm already on Xtandi...can't wait to see where my psa is in 3 weeks when I get back to the oncologist.

Thanks,

John

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DoggieDaddy

John...just curious about this BIRM Product you are using; are you using it on your own? Or did, perhaps follow the advice of a practicing Homeopathic Physician?

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Hi DoggieDaddy...

my puppy (but he's going to be 5 years old on Jan 14th) is the light of my life...so I like your name...

I have been reading Nalakrat's (one of the people on here) posts for almost 2 years. He has been doing it about that long...jokingly calling it "gator blood" because it comes from South American, I suppose...

... My oncologist only has faith in Pharma....but he is Indian and his assistant says he approves of Tumeric. Everything else I have asked him about he has just grunted or something like that...LOL. I decided after finally getting a good Pet Scan followed by a good PSA (going the right direction and finally under 1.0) that is was time to try some extra bullets. Thought I'd see what my next PSA looks like and try to evaluate how I feel...I've been on Lupron for 2 years... and done chemo, radiation, HIFU, Provenge....and now I'm on Xtandi....and Lupron only. I felt it was time to try some magic. Even if it just helps with the fatigue and all over pain I feel...or the hot flashes...it will be a "magic potion" to me. LOL. This past couple of days I have noticed much less pain in my feet (they feel like they are being crushed a large part of the day and night) and I have had a bit more energy. I still notice I am short of breath easily....but I have been doing more...so "that's a good thing" as Martha Stewart used to say....

All the best to you on your journey,

John (Sparky's daddy)

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DoggieDaddy in reply to greatjohn

BigJohn: Look, I don’t ordinarily recommend therapeutic to but..have you or your Oncologist ever mentioned ADT, Andgrogen Deprivation Therapy? Since you’ve had Lupron, perhaps the next step would be ADT3! Which is Avodart, Casadex added to your Lupron...but if your doing the Lupron Shots it seems to me your in Hormone Therapy..no?

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I'm currently on 3 month Lupron shots which is ADT and isn't Xtandi another anti-androgen thing? I'm on it as well. People think it's a chemo pill...but it's actually another hormone blocker. This is all confusing...but NOW after 5 days on the BIRM ...I've had the best 4 days in a LONG time...more energy...MORE positive feeling...LESS pain in my legs and feet. It really seems to good to be true, but I have a "spring" to my step again. I was out with a friend today and she couldn't believe it. I'm almost like the "old" me...that I knew and LOVED.....LOL.

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Rilu

someone has taken birm in zytiga? I want to try it but I do not know if it can interact with some cytochromes

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greatjohn in reply to Rilu

Not sure. Do some reading on here if you search berm. Also try Google search. I don't mean to tell people to try it....it was to find out what other people's experiences have been...I've been reading about it for 2 years and just wanted to give it a try.

John

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Cynthgob in reply to Rilu

Would like answer to this also! Started birm after chemo. Just started zytiga and didn’t think about that! Six months with only birm now on zytiga and birm

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Rilu

Ok!! I just see in google. I know it!! Birm = Dulcamara = Kalanchoe.

Dulcamara plant it's a type of Kalanchoe. My husband taken kalanchoe draigemoniana in the past. I've a plant in my house

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My dad has been taking the 7x concentrated version for about 2wks but it is upsetting his stomach. We know it’s the BIRM because when he doesn’t take it his stomach doesn’t bother him. He takes it with food. Anyone else having this issue and what did you do to help it? I really really want him taking it!!

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I take mine just after eating...3 times a day.

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