Dr. Johnathan Wright's Prostay

[gusgold]

anyone use this product and have positive results..it is a 100:1 combo of K3 and Vitamin C...check out the article below

Gus

cancermind.com/psa-prostate...

[gusgold]

Actual study

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articl...

[paulofaus]

Gus, I dug this out of my notes, I hope it helps: medsci.org/v05p0062.htm

[BrianF505]

Posted this in another thread here, but it may be more appropriate here:

edu.emersonecologics.com/20...

[pjoshea13]

Gus,

I covered vitamin K3 & Apatone in my:

"Foods/Supplements-Vitamins: Vitamin K"

post of 2 years ago, & I see that nothing has been added to PubMed since. Apatone seems to have been an interesting idea that came & went. The study is 10 years old & hasn't led to a Phase III trial.

However, there was a recent trial:

"This research study is being conducted to determine if taking oral (by mouth in pill form) Apatone®B (a combination of Vitamins C and K3) will reduce chronic joint discomfort and improve function of non-infected symptomatic postoperative total joint replacements." [2]

There are two interesting things about Prostay. First:

"In the United States, menadione {vitamin K3} supplements are banned by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration because of their potential toxicity in human use." [1]

Secondly, the 100:1 C:K3 ratio is patented.

It's unclear how Mr. Wright has managed to keep his product on the market.

Apatone itself - not Prostay - has C & K3 combined in some way that supposedly mimics the structure of glucose. The idea is that cancer cells will suck up the stuff & die. As we know, PCa cells mostly continue to prefer fatty acids for fuel, so if the people at Summa Health System really believed in the glucose concept, they chose the wrong cancer to test it on. Nonetheless, there seems to have been benefit in the trial.

I have used Prostay, but I can't report benefit in my case.

-Patrick

[1] en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Menad...

[2] clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show...

[gusgold]

Pat,

The FDA banning K3 is a good reason to use it..they ban any drug like substance or a drug like DES that Big Pharma can't make money on...remember they tried to ban all supplements except low dose vit c and a few others...it took our buddy Senator Hatch to pass DSHEA to stop them...we may be in trouble now that Hatch is retiring ...FDA is pushing to repeal DSHEA...something is going on with Wright and ProsStay...every place I searched was out of stock...finally found a cancer clinic that had a few bottles and talked them into selling 3 to me..the cancer clinic says they have gotten results with ProsStay....I like the idea that a "supplement" can slow the rise in PSA and increase doubling time

Gus

[gusgold]

Pat,

look what your friends at Life Extention say about ProsStay formulation

lifeextension.com/magazine/...

[FCoffey]

I used ProsStay for many years. I can't prove that it helped, the N=1 problem. I have no reason to think it hurt me. I've been on this journey for 11 years. Maybe ProsStay slowed the cancer, maybe not.

I use the past tense because I had an autoship program from Life Extension.

Recently I was reviewing my credit card bill, and there was a charge from Life Extension for $75. ProsStay costs about $35.

I called Life Extension and they told me that they no longer carried ProsStay, so they had substituted a different product. Without telling me. One that cost more than twice as much. One without K3.

I was and remain livid. That is fraud. I insisted that they credit me immediately, and refused to send their product back. Their dishonesty does not create obligations for me.

I won't be buying from Life Extension again. If anyone knows of a place to get ProsStay at a decent price, I would be interested.

[gusgold in reply to FCoffey]

ProsStay is a drug sold as a supplement....right now every seller has it on backorder....users are so desperate to obtain a bottle they are shelling out close to $100 to obtain from Australia

[FCoffey in reply to gusgold]

The difference between drug and supplement is legal, not functional or technical.

I take a mushroom extract. It's just a water extract of a particular mushroom. In the US, it is a supplement. In Japan, it is a drug. Different laws, same compound.

Both medicinal drugs and supplements are consumed with the intent of improving health. For acute conditions, like an infection, the distinction is fairly clear. For chronic conditions, where one may be taking something for years, the line grows blurred.

Clearly there has been some interruption to the supply of ProsStay. Maybe the FDA hammered them, maybe something else.

I'd continue taking it at $35 a bottle, but I'm not so desperate. There are many, many things to try. The trick is making an informed decision.

[paulofaus in reply to gusgold]

Really, I'm in Australia and I've never heard of it? I have been interested to find more about Apatone, which seems to be the same thing - unless I'm mistaken?