Laetrile /Vitamin B17 as one protocol to use with other protocols to fight prostate cancer

[Robertleeb]

I have seen trials that are being used where they hit it hard with combinations of anti-cancer drugs, I using B17 as one of my protocols for fighting my cancer also with Hormone therapy ,casodex radiation and cannabis oil. I believe we should follow our doctors guidance but also be EDUCATED on other ways to do our selves as a combination of anti-cancer protocols that are out there. here is information about Laetrile/vitamin B17

cancertutor.com/laetrile/?u...

[pjoshea13]

I know a few men who have used it. It passes one's smell test or it doesn't, but it's very hard to build a case for it when there are so many other supplements with PCa studies to suggest potential benefit.

It is not a vitamin.

Some conventional views:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amygd...

cancer.gov/about-cancer/tre...

nytimes.com/1981/05/05/opin...

mskcc.org/cancer-care/integ...

quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRe...

There are plenty of contrary sites, of course.

-Patrick

[softwaremom00]

A free online series called "The Sacred Plant" just finished running. It was interesting but I did not manage to watch all of the episodes. It was about cannabis. I was glad it mentioned CBD oil which is legal in all 50 states.(As long as it does not have THC) CBD oil is supposed to be a helpful anti-Inflammatory. Did you get to watch the series ? if so, any thoughts ?

[Hazard in reply to softwaremom00]

I did watch a few episodes. Here re my thoughts.

A decade ago, Rick Simpson grew marijuana on his farm manufactured THC oil (also known as Rick Simpson oil) and gave it away for free. The RCMP closed him down in 2009.

The Sacred Plant team gives you absolutely nothing and asks for your money.

Can you see the difference? If you are interested in medical marijuana, go to phoenixtears.ca. There is whole lot more info on this site than was made available on TSP. This info has been publicly available for years. There's nothing new on TSP and certainly nothing worth paying for.

Its a safe bet that 'your host' John Malanca et al have commercial interests in medical marijuana plantations. If through their lobbying they can get marijuana legalised then they will male a lot of money. And they want us to pay for it? LOL.

[softwaremom00 in reply to Hazard]

The sacred plant series did seem a little empty of content. I was hoping for more concrete information. Thanks for the reply! Prayers for you!

[Hidden in reply to Hazard]

Everything is about $$$ M.M. Included. The benefits of the plant can no longer be denied. It is as simple as those that don’t like it don’t take it. A cure for sure..there isn’t one. Help to many , including myself. Cost will come down , but it’s half taxes.a political football just like healthcare.

[Robertleeb in reply to softwaremom00]

I did watch the series and when it wasn't mentioned what was the sacred plant was , I suspected it was cannabis, I have researched it and its has some amazing studies and results ,I don't take cannabis oil alone , I also do cbd one to one ratio. along with Htherapy and radiation treatments. my psa is at .4 at present. I will be done with radiation mid Dec. my goal is to see if the cannabis oil and cbd along with my protocols from the doctors are working together , I did read that cannabis oil works great with radiation and Htherapy .

[softwaremom00 in reply to Robertleeb]

Prayers for you! I hope you get good results with your treatment.

[Hidden in reply to Robertleeb]

I did it during RT...it helps with appetite but you might sleep a lot .Two things important during treatment. Good luck

[Hazard]

Robert, I do not believe anything on Cancer Tutor. A colleague of mine who champions alternative medicine refered me to Cancer Tutor, I was quickly turned off when I read this:'

" Cancer cells consume 15 times more glucose than a normal cell. Thus, a person would logically expect a cancer cell to create 15 times more ATP molecules than a normal cell.

But in reality, cancer cells create a very small number of ATP molecules. Cancer cells are ATP molecule-starved and they have to revert to fermentation to create what little ATP molecules they create.

With so much glucose there should be an abundance of ATP molecules. Why do cancer cells consume 15 times more glucose and yet not be able to create a significant amount of ATP molecules?

The thing that blocks the production of ATP molecules is a very special pleomorphic bacteria that is inside the cancer cells.

The Independent Cancer Research Foundation and others believe the microbe is Helicobacter Pylori or H. pylori. In some cases, Fusobacterium may be involved as well as it is also known to get inside of cells.

While everyone has H. pylori bacteria in their body (generally in their digestive tract), how do H. pylori get inside of a healthy cell? Generally, it doesn't. But in some cases, an acidic diet can make this bacteria highly aggressive and it can literally drill itself inside of a normal cell to get away from the acidity in the blood, as discovered by Robert O. Young, Ph.D."

Say what?

[Rotten]

This is Rotten I would like to know if cannabis oil helps with advance prostate cancer. The test came back showing that it had not spreaded to any other organs and bone. So I'm thinking on having the surgery instead of total radiation.

[softwaremom00 in reply to Rotten]

I am on this forum for my Husband who has prostate cancer. My Dad had prostate cancer also. It was local to the prostate. They gave him Lupron and then told him they should radiate the prostate and that it was very safe. It seemed to work but he was incontinent .. Fast forward 6 years. Dad has intense pain near where they radiated. It turns out the radiation caused a Sarcoma. By the time we discovered it the Sarcoma had gone to the lungs. My Dad died about 5 months later from the Sarcoma caused by the radiation of the prostate.

I would tend to pick surgery over radiation but I have a bias.

[Robertleeb in reply to softwaremom00]

I know a couple of friends who had surgery for their prostate and the cancer came back so they had to have radiation. I have read surgery does work but there is a chance that some cancer cells were left and that is why they needed radiation. I believe both protocols work to a certain point, but all they got was the cancer tumor, not what caused it. I would say which ever protocol is used back it up with other protocols. like B17, cannabis oil for prevention. I don't want the cancer to come back. I never would say I am cured even 15 years down the road, once a person gets cancer , there is always a chance it will come back, but to practice prevention after surgery or radiation. the doctors in conventional medicine for cancer don't have a back up protocol except to be tested every 3 months or Chemo once the cancer comes back , to me that is not acceptable, I want to educate myself so I can do my own back up protocol. I eat a lot of mushrooms with turmeric and black pepper, making a omelette for breakfast, I know mushrooms have Beta glucan, and Beta glucan can build up our immune system , we have to have a healthy immune system to fight off problems created by Rad or Surg. like one you mentioned Sarcoma

I wouldn't buy the capsules , I would rather eat the real deal. not knowing the company who sells them if they put filler, our country is about making money so that is why I eat the raw apricot seeds and real Beta Glucan. It about getting the real stuff because my life depends on it.

right now I am learning how cleansing the body from toxins is important, I don't know much about it but I will . toxins like pesticides, fluoride , Gmos, I don't eat food in a box either, I feel even the air we breathe is toxic from the companies that release it in the air. I read that toxins hide between the cells and at some point it stops oxygen from reaching the normal cell , cancer doesn't like oxygen and can mutate the cell then it becomes a cancer cell. cancer cells don't die on its own they just keep growing out of control, so prevention at any point is crucial. I wish I would have been knowledgeable about toxins. maybe I wouldn't have got cancer but I can't go back so going forward and learning how to prevent cancer from coming back is my goal in my life.

God Bless

Robert

[AlanMeyer]

Brothers and sisters, forgive me for what I am about to do.

<begin rant>

I wouldn't trust anything published on Cancer Tutor and if G. Edward Griffin, the "authority" cited on that website, told me that the sun will rise tomorrow morning I would reserve judgment until the morning before certifying that he told the truth. Please have a look at the Wikipedia page for Griffin and have a look at the pages cited by Patrick above about laetrile/amygdalin. Note for example that the mskcc (Memorial Sloan Kettering Cancer Center - one of the top cancer research hospitals in the world) web page says: "Amygdalin (Laetrile) has toxic side effects and decreased survival in cancer patients." This is what Griffin and Cancer Tutor are suggesting that you take!

When someone proffers an amazing cancer cure that works better and easier than anything offered by the evil medical and pharmaceutical industries, they're trolling for suckers. Don't let them catch you!

<end rant>

Best wishes to all.

Alan

[Robertleeb in reply to AlanMeyer]

no rant just my testimony of me having prostate cancer.

I have been doing more research on Laetrile/Amygdalin/B17, and found out that a lot of fruit has it already, raspberry, strawberry, currants, cranberry, and blackberry – contain admirable quantities of B17. macadamia nuts and cashew nuts, sprouts of alfalfa Spinach leaves, yam, cassava, and sweet potato, black, kidney, lima, beans, they all have different amounts of B17, I have also read eating these foods I have listed are antioxidants. I remember when I was young and no cancer I ate a bag of cashew nuts and got sick, I still eat them but not a whole bag. I think eating too much of anything can have a bad effect. I do eat 20 Apricot Seeds a day and my cancer is in remission, PSA at .1 twice in a row. I had a CT Scan no delectable cancer, I don't trust scans so I will keep eating the Apricot Seeds, I have been eating them for over 8 months and I am still here with cancer in remission and plan on eating them to prevent if from coming back, I also eat alot of the foods I mentioned that have B17. I say do your research instead of believing me or Alan Meyer.

I do believe cannabis oil works too but its too expensive for me. my nephew had bladder cancer and I mentioned to him about cannabis oil, he started taking cannabis oil and he did surgery and had the tumor removed, they noticed it had shrunk and they took 15 lympnodes from around his bladder and found no cancer in them. I do believe in Western medicine, like radiation , but I just can't count on that alone, like changing my diet and eating all the right foods, no sugar or animal fat and eating Apricot Seeds.

God Bless

Robert

[AlanMeyer in reply to Robertleeb]

Hello Robert,

Congratulations on your 0.1 PSA! I hope it lasts forever.

Best of luck.

Alan

[Robertleeb in reply to AlanMeyer]

Thank you Alan, I can only hope and pray too, I was just watching a video on Metformin, and I just found out how it can actually work on the cancer stem cell and stop the cancer from getting out of control. I am a diabetic and I take 1000 mg a day , 500 in the morning after breakfast and one at night. I believe what Lulu700 said hit it as hard as it can be, I did that with cannabis oil but the money tree burned out real quick. when I was first diagnosed last year I had only one core of the 12 that was positive, now I am wondering doing the metformin for 8 years helped to keep the cancer at one core. My belief is there are so many options to keep the cancer from coming back, I do believe doing radiation and Lupron, casodex worked. but I also believe not to just count on that alone.

Thank you Alan, I am praying that I can prevent the cancer from returning for 20 yrs. that would work for me, putting my around 87, both of my parents lived to be 89 if I could be so lucky.

God Bless

Robert

[Hidden]

I love it .. if one has the means. I hit everything hard the first 2yrs until the money tree burned down. Getting Iv s is not my greatest love.If I had the strength I’d throw the kitchen sink at it.