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hi advice needed please.

We are due to have our eldest son and his family ( with a toddler) live with us for a while.

we have been extremely careful since the start of Covid but we obvious can’t expect our family to exercise the same level of caution and restrictions.

what do others do when they live with extended family members or have young children ?

to be honest I feel quite stressed thinking about it all. We want to have them stay with us but really don’t want my OH to get Covid again.

Thank you all .

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Grizzly-bear

HEPA filters, making sure ventilation as good as possible and keeping a distance if anyone feels like they’re coming down with something/have something is your best bet. If you can afford it then I’d recommend HEPA filters in all communal spaces. Won’t necessarily stop you getting it but will dramatically reduce viral load which has a big impact on how sick you get and some studies suggest they have prevented infection.

There’s also some wearable air purifiers on the market that I haven’t yet tried, but they’re like necklaces. Maybe have a look into those?

I’m mega cautious and wear a mask around family but I live alone so it’s doable for me. Not so doable if you’re all sharing eating/living space.

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Main1234 in reply toGrizzly-bear

thank you for your suggestions.

Will have a look at the filters .

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AndrewT

Dear Main1234,

I attend Headway Essex and I know that They have an Air Purifier/ Cleaner System, that they Plug In, once Everyone has Left- I was There 'A Bit Later' one afternoon.

I Don't know the Cost, of this System, but I will Ask them, and Let you Know.

Apart from this- Keep Everyone Clean, Deal with any,,,, erm 'Accidents' quickly BUT, above all,,,,,,

Enjoy your Family Time,

AndrewT

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Main1234 in reply toAndrewT

thank you Andrew for your kind words

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AndrewT in reply toMain1234

Dear Main1234,

I have spoken to Headway, but unfortunately, their 'Fogger System' is one for Public/ Large Scale Areas and is Not Really Suitable for a 'Domestic' setting. However it may Very Well, be Possible' to Buy 'More Domestic' models On Line.

Apparently, their system does NOT, as I thought, 'Disinfect The Air', simply adds Moisture To It- which, I would think, could cause Mould Growth longer term..... Perhaps NOT such a Good Idea,

Sorry that I can't be any more Help, to you, Main- perhaps look 'On Line', or Contact Your Doctors/ GP- if they are 'Helpful', Take Care

AndrewT

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Main1234 in reply toAndrewT

thank you Andrew for enquiring for me and taking the time to respond. Think as it’s warmer weather will keep windows open and keep our fingers crossed. Have a good weekend.

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I understand the risk will increase, but try not to get overstressed.You already got good advice. Air the house daily and keep a window open if you are all in a room.

Have an honest conversation with your son and his wife about your worries. Hand hygiene is very important. If they feel unwel, they should keep their distance and do a test.

Book your husband's spring booster.

It will be lovely to have the grandchild around, try to enjoy the prescious time with your family.

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Main1234 in reply tozoe69

thank you Zoe, luckily the weather will be better and windows will be open.

Having an honest conversation is a good idea as we have perhaps shielded him from the realities of GPA.

Spring booster will be booked and he no longer has RTX only MMF.

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Investigator1

Hi again Main1234. We had a similar situation about 6 months ago when a relative of my wife’s came to stay while moving house for a couple of months. The relative was going out to work so had interaction with others, she also had a young child who she had interaction with on a daily bases who was staying elsewhere. Because she had nowhere to go it was a desperate situation we were sort of forced into but we threw the ball firmly in her court and stipulated the following:

1/ She tested every 2 days, and her child the same when seeing him. (We had a few spare tests and she had access at work)

2/ If a positive test was recorded she isolated or moved out. Simple as that!

3/ If her child tested positive she isolated and did not see him until he tested negative.

4/ She did not socialise in an evening and at all other times kept her interaction with people to a minimum.

When she originally asked for our help we told her we understood her situation but these stipulations were mandatory. She agreed, all was going well but after 5 weeks she failed to tell us her child had tested positive (found out by a third party) so we told her to leave. We then tested for the next few days.

I know this sounds harsh and the above may look a bit stringent but I said from the start, they are living here rent free the least they can do is abide by our requests and respect our situation.

The golden rule here is to lay your requirements and situation down before you start.

Nick

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Main1234 in reply toInvestigator1

you are right Nick and you and your wife were very generous to offer accommodation it’s unfortunate she did not keep to your requests. Think sometimes people / relatives do not understand the risks for CEV .

Thank you for your response .

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eh66

You'll probably remember from your own kids, but I found ours brought home all sorts of infections. I would try to keep yourselves as fit and healthy as possible through diet and exercise, so that when (not if sadly) you catch anything you are starting from a higher point to fight the infection.

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Main1234 in reply toeh66

no nursery luckily for little one and lots of outdoor pursuits.

We will just enjoy the time and hope for the best.

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Investigator1

Yes I agree, you still have to enjoy the opportunity. During the most difficult times of Covid in that first year, before vaccines and antibody/viral threatment when the strain was a lot more severe the thing that made me so afraid and frustrated were those people that continually broke rules and didn’t care or didn’t want to know about the CEV community and I couldn’t control that. I said to my wife one day we will have more control to be able to pick and choose how we do things and evaluate the risk. That’s what I did in this case, I was “bricking” it to be honest and it pushed my family loyalty to its limit. It did however allow me to demonstrate that loyalty and at the same time have some control over the risk therefore giving me peace of mind. Please don’t think I am a right so and so, I haven't a bad bone in my body. It’s my humble attempt at demonstrating a “balanced “ view. Nick.

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Main1234

Nick would never think you are “ a right so and so “ you have always offered careful considered advice/ support which is much welcome as is this group. Only we know what it’s like day-to-day

Best wishes

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NYinLON

In addition to open windows and other good advice you have had, I'd say buy some hand sanitizer pumps and place them all around the house, especially sitting rooms and other areas without sinks. Folks are so much more likely to use them if they are easy access...and help with all sorts of germ not just covid.

Enjoy.

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Investigator1

Just to put your mind at rest a little, by trade as you know I am a Health and Safety Professional and Risk Assessment is something I have been using for over 30 years. There are loads of different models about but the 5 x 5 matrix is tried and tested and is a combination of Frequency x Severity, ranking 1 as low and 5 as high. If you think about Covid in the beginning, we had lockdown which meant the chances of catching it were low about a 2 but the severity was a 5 because it was a definite killer for us, no vaccines, more severe strain etc so that would be 2 x 5 = 10. Now with your situation the chances of catching it have moved up a notch with extra people in the household and even with sanitisation etc it will Bea 3, but the severity is now a 3 at most a 4 because of vaccines, ant virals, less dangerous strain so that would be 3 x 3 = 9 or at most 3 x 4 = 12, still in a similar ballpark. Sorry for being a bit clinical but it’s how I have done things throughout the pandemic. Nick.

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Main1234

like the way you address this Nick ,thanks

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