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Can any help understand what this means?

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not sure what the ‘not consistent’ part means

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It's just the standard stuff if you're less than 42 you are non diabetic, if between 42- 48 you'd be pre-diabetic

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TiggerMe in reply to TiggerMe

I notice in your previous posts you mention low heart rate and flutters... have you had your thyroid levels checked along with ferritin, folate, B12 and Vit D? Ideally a full iron panel

Low iron can be behind palpitations

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Blondie12345 in reply to TiggerMe

Thanks for the reply.

I believe i had the full bloods done.

It says ferritin 129 ng/ml, B12 335 ng/L, potassium is the only one borderline to the normal range at 3.5mmol

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TiggerMe in reply to Blondie12345

Is the range for B12 180-1000? If so you want to be above 500 nearer top of range even better

Grab yourself some bananas for potassium 🐵

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Blondie12345 in reply to TiggerMe

B12 says within 200-900 is normal range mine was 335ng/l

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TiggerMe in reply to Blondie12345

Yeah, on the low side, it would also be good to see where your folate and Vit D levels are... most of us take a good B complex and Vit D year round

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Jaydee1507Administrator in reply to Blondie12345

Thats too low because the B12 range is too wide and cut off point too low.

Are you vegan or vegetarian? If not:

B12 - do you have symptoms of B12 deficiency? The reference range for B12 is very wide and cut off point too low. theb12society.com/signs-and...

If you do then you should discuss this with your doctor for further tests for Pernicious Anaemia.

If not, then start with a methyl B12 sublingual spray or lozenge for a week, then add a good B complex. Once you run out of the separate B12 just continue with the B complex.

cytoplan.co.uk/vitamin-b12-...

amazon.co.uk/Better-You-Boo...

B complex suggestions: Slightly cheaper options with inactive B6:

amazon.co.uk/Liposomal-Soft...

Contains B6 as P5P an active form:

bigvits.co.uk/thorne-resear...

healf.com/products/basic-b-...

Explanation about the different forms of B6:

helvella.blogspot.com/p/hel...

B complex comparison spreadsheet:

healthunlocked.com/thyroidu...

Have you also tested folate?

Ferritin looks good so long as you dont currently have any inflammation which can cause it to be falsely raised.

Serum iron can be low when ferritin is good. You could get an iron panel done.

Palpitations can just also be under replacement.

No vit D result.

NHS easy postal kit vitamin D test £31 via

vitamindtest.org.uk

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Blondie12345 in reply to Jaydee1507

This is fantastic reading. Thank you.

I maybe need to look into b12 and vit d.

Serum Folate came back as 12.2 ug/l

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Jaydee1507Administrator in reply to Blondie12345

Depending on the range for folate that doesnt look terrible but 20 is where many aim for.

Its worth getting the rest tested to see where you're at before you start to supplement.

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Blondie12345 in reply to Jaydee1507

Do B vitamins help improve mood? Not sure what the difference is between B12 and B complex

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helvellaAdministratorThyroid UK in reply to Blondie12345

B12 is just vitamin B12.

B complex is a fancy term for a mix of all the B vitamins - including B12. The manufacturers/vendors like to make all sorts of claims but, at base, they are just a blend of B vitamins.

The precise forms of B vitamins, the precise ratios, other ingredients, etc., all vary.

If you are good at absorbing B12, you might not need any extra B12. But if you have absorption problems, then a separate high dose B12 is usually a good idea. (Or injections, if you cannot absorb sufficient oral B12.)

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Jaydee1507Administrator in reply to Blondie12345

B vitamins do affect mood, so being low in them can affect mood amongst a whole lot of other things.

B12 is just one vitamin.

There are a number of B vitamins and a B complex is like a multivitamin just for the B group of vitamins. B vitamins need each other to be able to work well so its a good idea to be taking them all in a B complex to make sure you're getting enough of them all.

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Judithdalston

As Tiggerme has said ..are you diabetic, or have you just got HbA1c done as part of a package…can’t see actual result?

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Blondie12345 in reply to Judithdalston

no the GP just ran a full blood tests as my symptoms could have indicated diabetes so was just part of the full package

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welcome to the forum

Low heart rate and irregular heart rate suggests thyroid

what are your actual thyroid and vitamin results

For full Thyroid evaluation you need TSH, FT4 and FT3 tested

Also both TPO and TG thyroid antibodies tested at least once to see if autoimmune

Very important to test vitamin D, folate, ferritin and B12 at least once year minimum

Low vitamin levels are extremely common when hypothyroid, especially with autoimmune thyroid disease

About 90% of primary hypothyroidism is autoimmune thyroid disease, usually diagnosed by high TPO and/or high TG thyroid antibodies

Autoimmune thyroid disease with goitre is Hashimoto’s

Autoimmune thyroid disease without goitre is Ord’s thyroiditis.

Both are autoimmune and generally called Hashimoto’s.

Significant minority of Hashimoto’s patients only have high TG antibodies (thyroglobulin)

20% of autoimmune thyroid patients never have high thyroid antibodies and ultrasound scan of thyroid can get diagnosis

In U.K. medics hardly ever refer to autoimmune thyroid disease as Hashimoto’s (or Ord’s thyroiditis)

Essential to test vitamin D, folate, ferritin and B12

For good conversion of Ft4 (levothyroxine) to Ft3 (active hormone) we must maintain GOOD vitamin levels

What vitamin supplements are you taking

Also VERY important to test TSH, Ft4 and Ft3 together

Recommended that all thyroid blood tests early morning, ideally just before 9am, only drink water between waking and test

This gives highest TSH, lowest FT4 and most consistent results. (Patient to patient tip)

Private tests are available as NHS currently rarely tests Ft3 or all relevant vitamins

Post all about what time of day to test

healthunlocked.com/thyroidu...

Testing options and includes money off codes for private testing

thyroiduk.org/testing/

Medichecks Thyroid plus BOTH TPO and TG antibodies and vitamins

medichecks.com/products/adv...

Blue Horizon Thyroid Premium Gold includes BOTH TPO and TG antibodies, cortisol and vitamins

bluehorizonbloodtests.co.uk...

Only do private testing early Monday or Tuesday morning.

Link about thyroid blood tests

thyroiduk.org/testing/thyro...

Link about Hashimoto’s

thyroiduk.org/hypothyroid-b...

Symptoms of hypothyroidism

thyroiduk.org/signs-and-sym...

Tips on how to do DIY finger prick test

support.medichecks.com/hc/e...

Medichecks and BH also offer private blood draw at clinic near you, or private nurse to your own home…..for an extra fee

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