Spasams

[123razor]

Any body else have got where your toes and fingers cross over and tightening

of the muscles in your legs very pain full for 10mins Happens 2or 3 times inday

then wakes me in the night,Been too doctors said it was Spasams. i have had this problem for about 18month now, but nowhere near as bad as it is now

[HealthStarDust]

Yes. Started since levothyroxine and other issues followed.

[TiggerMe]

Low magnesium levels could be the problem have you had it checked?

[J972 in reply to TiggerMe]

It could well be TM but didn’t I see somewhere on the forum that serum magnesium tests results are unreliable and that we should probably just go ahead and supplement?

Another thing to consider 123razor is B12 deficiency. Do you have a recent test result?

[greygoose in reply to J972]

That is correct, J972, no point in testing magnesium. We're probably all deficient, anyway because soils are depleted for the most part so we don't get enough in our diet. If you have healthy kidneys, just take it. Should there be any excess it will just be excreted.

[TiggerMe in reply to J972]

You and greygoose are right, sorry a quick reply before I shut down last night

[humanbean in reply to J972]

TM? I don't recognise that.

[J972 in reply to humanbean]

TM = TiggerMe….I was being lazy! 🫣

[humanbean in reply to J972]

Oh I see!!! Sometimes I'm dim.

[SlowDragon Administrator]

welcome to the forum

How much levothyroxine are you taking

What are most recent thyroid and vitamin results

Muscle spasms often low magnesium

For full Thyroid evaluation you need TSH, FT4 and FT3 tested

Also both TPO and TG thyroid antibodies tested at least once to see if your hypothyroidism is autoimmune

Very important to test vitamin D, folate, ferritin and B12 at least once year minimum

Low vitamin levels are extremely common when hypothyroid, especially with autoimmune thyroid disease

About 90% of primary hypothyroidism is autoimmune thyroid disease, usually diagnosed by high TPO and/or high TG thyroid antibodies

Autoimmune thyroid disease with goitre is Hashimoto’s

Autoimmune thyroid disease without goitre is Ord’s thyroiditis.

Both are autoimmune and generally called Hashimoto’s.

Significant minority of Hashimoto’s patients only have high TG antibodies (thyroglobulin)

20% of autoimmune thyroid patients never have high thyroid antibodies and ultrasound scan of thyroid can get diagnosis

In U.K. medics hardly ever refer to autoimmune thyroid disease as Hashimoto’s (or Ord’s thyroiditis)

Recommended that all thyroid blood tests early morning, ideally just before 9am, only drink water between waking and test and last dose levothyroxine 24 hours before test

This gives highest TSH, lowest FT4 and most consistent results. (Patient to patient tip)

Private tests are available as NHS currently rarely tests Ft3 or all relevant vitamins

Post all about what time of day to test

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Testing options and includes money off codes for private testing

thyroiduk.org/testing/

Medichecks Thyroid plus BOTH TPO and TG antibodies and vitamins

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Blue Horizon Thyroid Premium Gold includes BOTH TPO and TG antibodies, cortisol and vitamins

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Only do private testing early Monday or Tuesday morning.

Link about thyroid blood tests

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Link about Hashimoto’s

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Symptoms of hypothyroidism

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Tips on how to do DIY finger prick test

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Medichecks and BH also offer private blood draw at clinic near you, or private nurse to your own home…..for an extra fee

How often do you use antacids?

healthline.com/health/gerd/....

Antacids should only be used to alleviate occasional acid reflux.

Stomach acid is necessary to help absorb magnesium in the stomach. Chronic use of antacids, proton pump inhibitors, and other acid-blocking medications can decrease overall stomach acid and perpetuate poor magnesium absorption.

[Lolitina]

hi Razor, iit Has been happening to me too, its something quote new also for me , it started one night but it was sono painful that I sweated

My doctor was not surprised, so I started by taking more fluid during the day and added potassium magnesium powder and electrolytes every day, slowly this spasm decreased in frequency and After one month almost disappeared

Hope this can be useful to you

Manu

[Regenallotment]

dehydration and magnesium for my Mum, when she forgets it all comes back especially after a walk or being particularly active eg dancing at a party. 🌱

[Suzi-B]

i’ve not heard of this being related to a UAT before may be it’s underlaying issues with another problem, i.e. my joints hurt it’s nothing to do with my thyroid it’s arthritis, if i’d listened to other people i’d not of gone to the doctors and found the real reason my joints hurt as so many people relate hurting joints to an UAT…… just saying be careful asked your doctor to be referred to a specialist not al our health problems are thyroid related!!

[josephinius1]

I have. I have been taking magnesium for a long time, hard to imagine I could be deficient. It does seem to come and go though, so...?