Two good, short articles that sum up what I've been trying to say for ages:
Inflammation is the real problem and increased cholesterol the solution. So why has cholesterol got such a bad rap?
jamaica-gleaner.com/gleaner...
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Unfortunately, it doesn't mention the thyroid connection to high cholesterol levels. But, it's a start. 
Thank you so much GG for sharing something that you have been telling us all along. They just want to keep us sick and hand out pills for everything. How do we *Stop* this vicious cycle? It's nothing but scare tactics as far as I'm concerned.
We have to stand up for ourselves and just say no, I'm not taking them. They are not what I need. Doctors have ruled the roost like demi-gods for far too long, and too many people are afraid to stand up to them - or believe that they know what they're doing! Education is the key, for all of us, doctors and patients.
For too long Doctors have the 'answer' to everything, pain in the stomach pain killers, various pills for one condition badly affect another, in fact worsen, too long getting rid of effects but not the cause! I had a benign tumour on my elbow, given so many pain killers over the years [four]🙄 my body developed high pain threshold, so ANY pain killers are ineffective! I was taking statins, but three other medications just to get rid of side effects of those! I took myself off the statins, in 2016 🤗🤗🤗 They are stuffing me full of metformin etc, presently, high sugar count, had diabetes 2 since 2020, I asked about cholesterol, dieting like mad weight down 2 1/2 stone, they changed the subject, going on about high sugar level, I mentioned it might be caused by something else? distinct silence... "campfire get together at health centre on 8th" should be interesting🤞
both links seem to go to part 1
Can you add link for part 2
😱 In order to work, statins will necessarily damage the liver, so liver damage is not a side effect of statin drugs, it is the primary effect.
That has shocked me although it's a commonsense conclusion.
Then: Statin drugs often do not have immediate side effects, and health problems that appear down the line are frequently not interpreted as side effects of the drug, but rather as a new issue
This sounds oddly familiar. Oh yes it's reminiscent of not being treated adequately for hypothyroidism then having your symptoms ascribed to a new disease.
If you are on a statin drug and you have developed cognitive loss, neuropathy, anaemia, acidosis, frequent fevers, cataracts, sexual dysfunction, musculoskeletal pain or any other maladies, speak to your prescribing physician
But it probably won't get you anywhere.
No thanks. Keep your statins. Thanks for posting GreyGoose!
wow this is me after stopping and to think I was going to ask to go back on them thinking it would stop it all 😱. great post grey goose
I've come off the Atvorstatins because of the side effects. Muscle pain, weakness and slow recovery . I feel so much better 3 months without.
I'm so glad you feel better and I hope you make a full recovery xx
Thank you.
it’s good to read this but it’s set out really as opinion - it would be good to see the science it’s based on.
Agreed.
This 99 year old sharp and adorable Harvard-educated professor talks about some of the studies, starting at about the 8:50 mark.
I can’t see the link sorry v
100% agree. Besides lay people like you preaching this (and others like myself on here and elsewhere), there are notable experts. Drs Aseem Malhotra, Malcolm Kendrick and Joseph Mercola are just 3 that come to mind.
Thank you for the post, greygoose.
Absolutely agree that:
"Low cholesterol can kill you faster than high cholesterol can begin to affect your health."
"If you are on a statin drug and you have developed cognitive loss, neuropathy, anaemia, acidosis, frequent fevers, cataracts, sexual dysfunction, musculoskeletal pain or any other maladies, speak to your prescribing physician."
Years ago, I knew a 40yro male on cholesterol drugs and he had to have regular liver tests.
Yep, I think this Dr Neal Gardner is on the right path with inflammation.
I believe he is, yes. There are other doctors that think the same thing. Just not enough of them to make a difference. Your average GP is far more interested in prescribing drugs than improving your health.
Really interesting reading and what I had always thought about Cholesterol. Thank you.
I no longer trust Doctors anyway, until I have proven to myself that they are helping me and not the other way around.
I actually don't take medications as such, Hawthorn for my Heart and then NDT for my Thyroid plus and few naturals.
Two of my good friends back in the UK have taken Statins for years and both of them have heart problems now and are both in very poor health.
Just a note how do we achieve and set of teeth like Dr Gardner???? Especially here in France.
Wish I had an answer to that question! lol Although, personally, I'd just be glad to have teeth. Hashi's has robbed me of all mine. But, having lived in both countries, I wouldn't say it's any more difficult to have good teeth in France than in England. I hear it's difficult to even find a dentist in the UK these days.
It's easy to get into a private dental practice but the cost is too high for many. NHS dentists are like the proverbial gold teeth!
Yes, so I've heard. Terrible situation!
Yes you are probably right I've heard of a lady pulling out her own teeth in the UK.
OMG! 😮 Poor lady.
You and I are singing off the same Statin hymn sheet greygoose
I first became highly suspicious at a weekly art class in the late '80's when listening to a woman who was upset because she'd never heard of it before, but her cholesterol was too high and she had to cut out all sorts of foods and drink and she was most unhappy. I started looking into it around then. There weren't many books around at the time about it, but I read what I could and have been on high alert ever since. Since the 80's they have reduced the acceptable blood result at least once so that more and more people are being caught in the net. No way will I take them.
I am most definitely medication averse. I have to take something for my thyroid and I need a beta blocker for the high heart rate I have due to living with permanent Afib. Apart from those I have an anticoagulant that I would rather not take, but I need it again for the Afib, and a drug to stop me becoming type 2 diabetic. I would much rather not take that but I see it as a tool while I try to sort my thyroid meds out properly, at which point, if I ever get there, I should not need it.
The other things I take are vitamins and minerals. My dad just a whole ice cream box full of tablets. So many every day. His personality changed and he ended up a very unhappy, angry and bitter old man with zero quality of life for 12 months before he died. The one tablet he didn't have, despite heart disease, was a statin. His cardiologist said he didn't need those.
One of the problems is that doctors know less about nutrients than they do thyroid - and that's saying something! And, cholesterol is a nutrient. It is very important for the body, but they treat it as if it's the enemy, to be eliminated. I have naturally low cholesterol, even though I'm hypo, and I was worried about that. But all doctors say is 'cholesterol can never be too low'! Well, they're wrong! Even the lab attached a note to say my cholesterol was dangerously low. It just seems impossible to change doctors' minds about anything. They're as stubborn as mules!
And they are so over-worked now that there is not time for them to keep up to date and well read. They just do as they are told by the higher powers and Pharma companies.
How can they be over-worked when they don't even see patients anymore, for the most part?
I have no experience of that. Our rural surgery has never limited face to face unless it's for minor things that no one minds. We had appointments throughout Covid lockdowns, you just had to wait outside and everyone was wrapped in plastic. Blood tests and examinations continued.
But the damn local planning keeps allowing more and more housing to be built in their catchment area and they have no room to expand. No further rooms to put extra doctors in. Their own planning application to expand the surgery, actually to turn it into a rural medical centre reminiscent of cottage hospitals keeps getting rejected by people who think it will spoil something they currently have. A view of the church spire or something!
Well, I'm just going by what I read on here.
Where I am, you can't find a doctor for love nor money. I don't have a doctor since mine retired. Social Services said they would find me one, but that was about six months ago, and so far, no news.
That's not great. I thought France was better equipped and organised in it's medical provision.
lol Wish it was! Well, it's only really GPs that are the problem. Apart from that, I don't think there's much difference between here and the UK.
I definitely believe inflammation is major cause to cholesterol people like me who have psoriasis and psoriatic arthritis live with chronic inflammation and also high cholesterol…. Doctors love to push statins my doctor did it to me 3x’s and all 3 statins felt like they were killing me.
Yes, this reminds me of Dr Malcolm Kendrick and his book “The clot thickens” - he has gone against mainstream dogma about heart disease for years and has been saying this for some time.
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