I have been taking thyroxine for over 20 years over the last 2 years I have had bad muscle aches in both my hips and also muscle pain in my arms. GP has done test and X-rays which have all been clear. I have been looking at my TSH levels over the years and between 2011-2020 my TSH levels were higher 9.3, 3.5, 3.9, 2.7, 9.6, then slowly over the years my levels have dropped to 0.03, 0.1, 0.9, 0.03.
Could anyone tell me if this could be a cause for muscle pain?
I currently take 125mg of thyroxine.
Thankyou in advance for any replies
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Needs to be retested every 3 months until you reach the level recommended by the Vit D Council, Vit D Society and Grassroots Health (100-150nmol/L) and the twice a year with seasonal change to dose if necessary to maintain good level. Private testing if necessary as most GPs reluctant to test Vit D.
Are you taking D3's important cofactors - magnesium and Vit K2-MK7? Doctors don't know about these so we have to obtain them ourselves.
D3 aids absorption of calcium from food and Vit K2-MK7 directs the calcium to bones and teeth where it is needed and away from arteries and soft tissues where it can be deposited and cause problems such as hardening of the arteries, kidney stones, etc. 90-100mcg K2-MK7 is enough for up to 10,000iu D3.
D3 and K2 are fat soluble so should be taken with the fattiest meal of the day, D3 four hours away from thyroid meds if taking D3 as tablets/capsules/softgels, no necessity if using an oral spray.
For Vit K2-MK7 my suggestions are Vitabay, Vegavero or Vitamaze brands which all contain the correct form of K2-MK7 - the "All Trans" form rather than the "Cis" form. The All Trans form is the bioactive form, a bit like methylfolate is the bioactive form of folic acid.
Vitabay and Vegavero are either tablets or capsules.
Vitabay does do an oil based liquid.
Vitamaze is an oil based liquid.
Another important cofactor is Magnesium which helps the body convert D3 into it's usable form.
There are many types of magnesium so we have to check to see which one is most suitable for our own needs:
Magnesium should be taken 4 hours away from thyroid meds and as it tends to be calming it's best taken in the evening. Vit D should also be taken 4 hours away from thyroid meds. Vit K2-MK7 should be taken 2 hours away from thyroid meds. Don't take D3 and K2 at the same time unless both are oil based supplements, they both are fat soluble vitamins which require their own fat to be absorbed otherwise they will compete for the fat.
Don't start all supplements at once. Start with one, give it a week or two and if no adverse reaction then add the next one. Again, wait a week or two and if no adverse reaction add the next one. Continue like this. If you do have any adverse reaction then you will know what caused it.
Good idea to get zinc tested, too. Low zinc can cause muscle pain.
But it has nothing directly to do with the TSH. TSH doesn't make you feel anything whether it's high or low. On the other hand, low T3 will cause all sorts of problems. Have you had that tested recently?
I’ve had a good look through my test results over the years and no mention of T3, only results for TSH and T4 levels. Thanks for the zinc information I will look into that.
FT3 is the most important number although doctors rarely test it - or the labs refuse to do it - because they don't know what it is. T3 is the active thyroid hormone. T4 is basically a storage hormone that doesn't do very much until it is converted into T3. It is needed by every single cell in your body, and if there's not enough to go round, all sorts of symptoms can appear anywhere in the body.
Not everybody is very good at converting T4 to T3 but the only way to tell how well you convert is to test T4 and T3 at the same time and compare the results. It would be a good idea to get full thyroid testing privately:
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