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if there is any member of this community who deserves a badge for the most hours of lost sleep over the past 3 decades I would put up a good fight - there seem to be tons of views of how to fix the issue in terms of diet/supplements /timings of Levo dosing etc etc
I have proved on many occasions it is the morning exposure to sunlight is key to setting the sleep cycle working better - never that well mind you but better is good enough for me …
absolutely Danielj
I find my body clock is far more agreeable if I get daylight in the morning- Huberman lab have done some pod casts on this and loads of other neuroscience stuff. I never make it through a whole podcast though he had a really lovely toned voice that makes me sleepy 😂 and the podcasts are so information dense I need a break or two when I listen.
I’ve also found - don’t know why this is , but if I count the in breath AND the out breath as I’m trying to get to sleep I pop off so much quicker. 🤗
’Saving Lives in Slow Motion’ podcast with Dr Ayan Panja has a recent episode on circadian rhythms. Apparently every cell in our bodies responds to daylight, and therefore this works the same even if someone is completely blind. Quite amazing!
Michael Moseley talks a lot bout getting morning daylight in his TV sleep programs if you have ever seen them They are well worth watching.
I do have a circadian rhythm disorder so now use light 'glasses' for 30 minutes every morning and they definitely help.
Hi Jaydee
My son has terrible sleep problems too which I believe are probably connected to his relationship with his laptop at night and lack of light exposure. What brand are your light glasses please, there seems to be a vast array of price ranges
We’ve had his and my daughter’s thyroid levels tested because hypothyroidsm is rife on my maternal side and yes they’re a tad low but in range by a reasonable margin so we’re monitoring
Thanks
Some people are naturally whats known as a night owl but certain things can make that worse like blue light from laptops/phone. I do also wear blue light blocking glasses for the last 3 hours of the day.
The light glasses I have are by Luminette. I chose that brand because they are clinically proven and also the duration of time you have to wear them to be effective was shorter. I think there is another brand thats proven, maybe the Australian brand.
the kids use these but I did not take them seriously I suppose - I will now and thank you for posting this
Thank you Jaydee
Are the blue light blocking and the light blocking you have, one and the same thing or two different types
If different, which have been the most effective? What I mean to say is: did you buy one set first and find they helped somewhat but not quite enough…?
In the morning (within 1 hour of waking) I wear the light 'glasses' (Luminette) .
3 hours before bed I wear the blue light blocking glasses, they look orange and really not attractive but help a lot of you are looking at screens. blockbluelight.co.uk/collec...
I also take prescribed melatonin.
The morning light ones would be most effective.
So for you it’s a combination of those three things and not just one of them in isolation
Thanks
I do have something called Delayed Sleep Phase Disorder. It got really bad and I wasn't getting to sleep until 9am which obviously wasnt a good thing!
The lengthy process of arriving at optimal nutrients and thyroid replacement and addressing adrenal health has seen off that knotted feeling in the pit of my stomach
This was a low level anxiety that I was hardly aware of because it had been my companion for so long but when the conditions for it to thrive were removed, it left and sleep came walking in
I’m so happy and a living proof it can be done. I struggled with insomnia for 20+ years and spent a fortune on remedies. Last week I had three consecutive nights of sleeplessness and was terrified insomnia had returned but then I realised it was the increase of my dose of Metavive by too much
I find going to bed and waking at the same time is a must for me.
Perhaps you are a rare bird like me. My circadian cycle has been off my whole life. I'm in a contest with you for being the most chronically sleep deprived. I finally found a doctor in California who would order a 24 hr. hormone saliva test. It showed elevated melatonin levels during the day w/cortisol levels dropping. At night my melatonin levels would drop and cortisol levels spike. I'm backwards and always have been. Called Delayed Sleep Phase Disorder. At age 59 I took those results to the Stanford Sleep Clinic and the doctor confirmed the diagnosis. No cure, only accommodations. But timing your levo intake should be adjusted. My partner ordered a set of lights that clip onto the bill of a hat and shine into the eyes so you receive the proper color light to give you that "wake-up" call. A light box might help. Naps, if you can. So, if any of you have kids who fall asleep in class and then are night owls - get them tested. I struggled in school my whole life. I didn't do well until I could take evening college courses! You won't get this diagnosed with a sleep study at a clinic because most don't operate during the day when people like me want and need to sleep. The 24 hr. hormone saliva test is the determining test to guide you.
night time cortisol is a huge problem I could not agree more - I have spent much of the past few years experimenting how to reduce it - I think I have tried to read just about every book and research journal out there 
Having recently left full time employment for good - I am wondering if I may now be in a reset and things may improve who knows …
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