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Hi,

I was wondering if someone could enlighten me about low cortisol.

My boyfriend had 2 synachten tests done recently and was discharged from the endocrinologist saying that he'd like to reassure him that there's no evidence of anyandterior or posterior pituitary hormone disfunction and happy to discharge him from the endocrine clinic.

His cortisol level was at 90, the other time it was 70nmol/L. NHS website states that at this rate it shows adrenal insufficiancy and needs hydrocortisone.

He also has raised prolactin 311MU/L, low testosterone of 14 (no range has been given, sorry)

Any advice would be grately appreciated.

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How much levothyroxine is your boyfriend currently taking

Previous post 2 years ago….left on only 50mcg

What are his most recent thyroid and vitamin results

What vitamin supplements is he currently taking

High prolactin common with autoimmune thyroid disease

Low testosterone and linked to being hypothyroid also low vitamin D

Bloods should be retested 6-8 weeks after each dose change or brand change in levothyroxine

 

For full Thyroid evaluation he needs TSH, FT4 and FT3 plus both TPO and TG thyroid antibodies tested.

Very important to test vitamin D, folate, ferritin and B12 at least once year minimum

About 90% of primary hypothyroidism is autoimmune thyroid disease, usually diagnosed by high thyroid antibodies 

Autoimmune thyroid disease with goitre is Hashimoto’s

Autoimmune thyroid disease without goitre is Ord’s thyroiditis. 

Both are autoimmune and generally called Hashimoto’s.

Low vitamin levels are extremely common when hypothyroid, especially with autoimmune thyroid disease (Hashimoto’s or Ord’s thyroiditis)

20% of autoimmune thyroid patients never have high thyroid antibodies and ultrasound scan of thyroid can get diagnosis 

In U.K. medics hardly ever refer to autoimmune thyroid disease as Hashimoto’s (or Ord’s thyroiditis)

Recommended on here that all thyroid blood tests early morning, ideally just before 9am and last dose levothyroxine 24 hours before test 

This gives highest TSH, lowest FT4 and most consistent results. (Patient to patient tip)

Private tests are available as NHS currently rarely tests Ft3 or all relevant vitamins

List of private testing options and money off codes

thyroiduk.org/getting-a-dia...

Medichecks Thyroid plus antibodies and vitamins

medichecks.com/products/adv...

Blue Horizon Thyroid Premium Gold includes antibodies, cortisol and vitamins

bluehorizonbloodtests.co.uk...

If you can get GP to test vitamins and antibodies then cheapest option for just TSH, FT4 and FT3

£29 (via NHS private service ) and 10% off down to £26.10 if go on thyroid uk for code

thyroiduk.org/getting-a-dia...

monitormyhealth.org.uk/

NHS easy postal kit vitamin D test £29 via

vitamindtest.org.uk

Only do private testing early Monday or Tuesday morning. Watch out for postal strikes, probably want to pay for guaranteed 24 hours delivery 

Link about thyroid blood tests

thyroiduk.org/getting-a-dia...

Link about Hashimoto’s

thyroiduk.org/hypothyroid-b...

Symptoms of hypothyroidism 

thyroiduk.org/wp-content/up...

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snowmoon1 in reply to SlowDragon

He's taking 75mcg T4 and 6,5 mcg T3.

Blood test from August: Cortisol 70nmol/L - ref range 6-10am 170 to 490 nmol/L - it was a morning blood test

Testosterone 16.7 nmol/L (8.64-29nmol/L)

Prolactin 603 mu/L 86 - 324mu/L

A blood test was done on 10 October. I haven't got the print out yet.

No vitamin tests are done, usually just TSH, FT4 and cortisol

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SlowDragonAdministrator in reply to snowmoon1

That’s very small dose of T3…..but still enough to reduce TSH …

No vitamin tests are done, usually just TSH, FT4 and cortisol

ESSENTIAL to test TSH, Ft4 and Ft3 together

Test early morning, ideally before 9am and last dose levothyroxine 24 hours before test. Last 2.5mcg dose T3 approx 8-12 hours before test

Come back with new post once you get FULL thyroid and vitamin results

Essential to test vitamin D, folate, ferritin and B12 at least every 6 months until on correct dose thyroid hormones

Then test annually

Most U.K. patients need to test privately to make progress

What vitamin supplements is he taking

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SlowDragonAdministrator in reply to snowmoon1

That appears to be extremely low cortisol result

Suggest getting 5 point adrenal test privately

Important to include testing DHEA

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which brand of levothyroxine is 75mcg

Has he had thyroid antibodies tested

Is T3 prescribed or self sourced

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snowmoon1

Yes, very low but doctors just want to perform the synachten test over and over again. Do you think asking for a 24hr urine test would be a good one to ask for?

He's taking Mercury Pharma levothyroxine. T3 is sourced from Greece, it is not prescribed. However, the endrocrinologist recently said that he would start him on a T3 trial but then lied about it and backtracked on it.

Yes, antibodies were negative.

He's taking D3K2, fish oil, magnesium. I think that's all.

I will post the new test results as soon as I got them, thank you.

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humanbean

Read pages 68 - 70 in this link :

imperialendo.co.uk/Bible201...

Also read page 1 so you know where it comes from!

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This might also be of use :

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adren...

Note that hospitals will often test for Primary Adrenal Insufficiency but rarely test for Secondary or Tertiary, on the stupid grounds that "Oh, it's very rare". And of course the less they test for it, the more rare it appears to be!

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Use the links as evidence that your boyfriend needs to be taken more seriously.

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snowmoon1 in reply to humanbean

Thank you very much for all the useful information 🙂

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caledoniancat

Does your boyfriend have symptoms such as:

hyperpigmentation , (skin looking darker than usual or dark bands of pigment under his toe nails or possibly finger nails), craving of salty foods, unusual tiredness especially as the day progresses or after psychological or physical exertion, aches and pains in muscles/joints, dizziness, low blood pressure, nausea/vomiting ache around the kidney area or abdomen? All are signs of the autoimmune condition Addison's disease. In this disease ( in simple terms) the outside layer of the adrenals does not function properly and it is normally a gradual deterioration until it leads to quite a drastic impact and crisis for the person. As it is an autoimmune condition it can be present along with autoimmune hypothyroidism. Addison's is classed as a rare disease but is likely under diagnosed especially in younger people and boys/men because it is regarded to be more common in 50yr and over women. The syncathen test checks whether the adrenals produce more cortisol when more ACTH is provided to the system, if the adrenals don't produce more I believe that could suggest Addison's /autoimmune adrenalitis should be considered by the endo as it is not a fault of the pituitary gland. I'm not a medic so this is only a thought from me.

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snowmoon1

hyperpigmentation , (skin looking darker than usual or dark bands of pigment under his toe nails or possibly finger nails) - yes, it comes and goes though. Does the darker skin meant to be dark for a long period of time like weeks/months?

craving of salty foods - not sure about that, he definitely craved salt in the past

unusual tiredness especially as the day progresses or after psychological or physical exertion, aches and pains in muscles/joints - yes, trying to do anything simple other than sitting he gets extrememly exhausted and it comes with shortness of breath

dizziness - yes, he says that he feels like a drunk sailor on a ship most of the time

low blood pressure - yes, lost consiouness in hospital multiple times

nausea/vomiting - yes, nauseas all the time, finds it hard to eat, no appetite and recently he's been vomiting here and there which didn't happen before

ache around the kidney area or abdomen - not sure about the kidney but def pain in the abdomen, he struggles with constipation too

Whenever he had the synachten test done cortisol rises so I am not too sure what to make of this.

Thank you for taking the time to reply to my post 🙂

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