Depression

[Margaret]

I am still having spells of depression can this be that my thyroid levels aren’t right this has all happened after taking CBD oil which now must be over a month ago

[SlowDragon Administrator]

Probably too soon to test

Retest thyroid and vitamin levels 6-8 weeks after any significant changes

[Clarrisa]

Did the CBD oil help you to feel any better? A therapist (academic based) once told me people can feel a greater sense of frustration when things start to improve for them. This therapist must have noticed this with my behavior to have mentioned it.

[Margaret in reply to Clarrisa]

I think it made me feel worse as it reduced the affect of my thyroid medication .

[Clarrisa]

My Alexander instructor told me last week to harness any anger into making necessary changes I need to. I have been turning to aromatherapy to take the edge off of things. It has taken me some time to locate a oil that works for me though. I hope you find what helps you best.

[humanbean]

The things I have found that improved my own depression and anxiety were :

1) Going 100% gluten-free, despite not suffering from coeliac disease.

2) Optimising my iron and ferritin (to the extent possible - my iron is still quite low).

3) When I can manage it... Going low carb, high(ish) fat, and eating higher protein foods.

4) And obviously optimising my thyroid as much as possible.

[greygoose]

I took CBD oil for several years and found only positive effects.

How were you taking it?

Were you taking it at least two hours away from thryoid hormone?

Were you taking it two or three times a day?

Were you taking too little or too much, maybe?

[Margaret in reply to greygoose]

I was taking it at bed time a full dropper full under my tongue, I take my thyroid medication in the morning as soon as I wake.

[greygoose in reply to Margaret]

A full dropper is rather a lot! And taking too much can be as bad as taking too little. I got up to 9 drops and that felt like my maximum dose, any more felt bad. Did you work up to that dose slowly?

Actually, CBD oil should be taken in a split dose, because it's only effective in the body for about 2 hours.

[Doggy1903]

So sorry to hear, but you are right , low thyroid levels will hugely influence your mood, causing you to feel flat and lethergic. If no sign of improvement , definitely to re consult with your doctor

[CatsofCatford]

You’ve probably already thought of this, but have you checked your Vit D? I find I need more at this time of year to keep dark thoughts at bay.

[Kauaii]

CBD oil can sometimes act like a sedative (ie depressant ). Have you tried St. John's Wort? It's more of a stimulant, but has good results as an anti-depressant.

[helvella Administrator in reply to Kauaii]

Have to be aware that St John's Wort can affect at least TSH.

Evaluation of the association between St. John's wort and elevated thyroid-stimulating hormone

N Ferko 1 , M A Levine

Affiliations

PMID: 11765308 DOI: 10.1592/phco.21.20.1574.34483

Abstract

Study objective: To evaluate whether St. John's wort is associated with an elevation in thyroid-stimulating hormone (TSH) levels.

Design: Retrospective case-control study

Setting: Hamilton, Ontario; September 1998-May 1999.

Subjects: Thirty-seven subjects with elevated TSH levels and 37 age- (+/- 6 yrs) and gender-matched subjects with normal TSH levels who resided in the same region.

Measurements and main results: Exposure to St. John's wort during the 3-6 months before TSH measurement was assessed through a telephone interview. A total of 4 of 37 subjects with elevated TSH levels and 2 of 37 subjects with normal TSH levels had taken St. John's wort in that time period. The odds ratio for elevated TSH levels associated with taking St. John's wort was 2.12 (95% confidence interval [CI] 0.36-12.36).

Conclusion: This study suggests a probable association between St. John's wort and elevated TSH levels. However, because of the wide CIs surrounding the point estimate (which crosses unity), further investigation, including a large, prospective cohort study, is warranted.

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/117...

[Stourie in reply to helvella]

Hah, I think I’ll have to start on St. John’s wort to raise my tsh from 0.01. I take t3. It would keep my dr happy 😊 Jo xx just joking 🙃

[helvella Administrator in reply to Stourie]

I like the attitude.

[shaws Administrator]

It is one of the symptoms of hypothyroidism:-

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articl...