Doctors create rival to ‘failing’ Public Health England

[vocalEK]

I wonder whether it would be worth while to contact these people to discuss how poorly thyroid issues are treated by NHS.

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[Yeswithasmile]

I’d love to be positive about this vocalEK but I’m just too cynical. It was an interesting read. Thank you. However I think the people involved are approximately 0.05% of all doctors and nurses, that’s without other healthcare professionals that they include. Numbers alone lead me to think that it’s futile.

Also it seems very diet and lifestyle based. Who’s to say that these professionals aren’t ones against the idea that the endocrine system is important? But I’d hazard a guess at them not giving two of the proverbial.

I hope I’m wrong. Wouldn’t it be lovely to be able to go to a gp and feel listened to, guided and properly medicated without having to get the boxing gloves and take large amounts of ashwagandha before hand!! You never know 🤞🏻🤞🏻🤞🏻🤞🏻

[Legoparis]

Very interesting if only they could also attract some of the brilliant marketeers from the pharmaceutical companies too to get their message overI don’t know if stress and lifestyle was original cause of my thyroid problems but I wish I knew then what I know now ( thanks to this site)

This government does seem to have realised we need much more screening to identify problems

earlier but moving the nhs is a nightmare -a smaller more nimble group may well be able to break through

I hope Thyroid Uk at least make a pitch on our behalf

[Miffie]

Reading the article I thought the main focus of this group was promoting healthy lifestyle and therefore avoiding problems caused by poor diet etc. I suspect thyroid health isn’t on the radar.I may be wrong and will be interested in the response you get further to contacting them.

[shaws Administrator]

An excellent idea as one doctor in my surgery - after a blood test - phoned to tell me that all results were good and I had no problems!

I cried when he told me that as I felt so very, very unwell. He did not understant what a TSH of 100 meant!

Thankfully, as I had asked for a blood test form to be left out for me about 4 days previously and I had never heard of hypothyroidism.

Another doctor phoned me and asked who'd requested the blood test form. I said I had (I had been away from home for a couple of weeks) he said 'you've hypothyroidism. Come and get a prescription.

[CoeliacMum1]

I have followed this cardiologist for some years.In principle I agree with what they’re trying to do.

But regarding individual conditions & medicine, I don’t think they’re yet at that stage.

But it’s worth mentioning, as many thyroid patients aren’t going to fit into this plan and stay overweight along with the risks that brings, if our thyroid conditions aren’t adequately treated.

Obviously his area for argument is Statins (pushed on to patients, but unnecessary in many cases) but there’s needless medication pushed on to people.

They’re trying to promote healthy eating and lifestyle changes, to help nhs save money.

One of the biggest expenditures of the NHS is diet & lifestyle related conditions.

I do believe mental health and education plays an important role as well.

Where pharmaceutical medicine is concerned they want clear evidence based information which has no conflicts of interest elsewhere, transparency in what these medicines are going to achieve and give the patient an informed choice.

The food industry obviously has big part to play in cleaning up what they dish out.

Hospitals are still giving out junk food to patients and junk in vending machines and on personal note, some are only just catering for coeliacs which it’s beyond belief!

Education is being planned for future Drs to take courses in areas which are only optionally at the moment ... and less reliance on drugs but looking at the prevention and the root cause of problems.

I have actually got first hand experience of this attitude which seems widespread in many surgeries... at 50 I had a cholesterol & diabetic screening and my diabetes came back as borderline prediabetic, my Cholesterol was low and still is.

I was asked to take statins, 🤷🏻‍♀️

which they got an earful, I can tell you.

I was told they’ll test again in 6 months regarding my Hb1ac screen for diabetes to see if it’s high enough to treat.

No advice to prevent it at all.

There seems a lack of common sense, and more you look at way things are going its we will treat the problem when it arises.

Like thyroid until there’s something in a test result, you haven’t got it, and to avoid looking at that further, don’t properly test it 🙄

Regarding Diabetes luckily I actually know a bit about nutrition and I can tell you I made another appointment 4 months later and reversed that last result to get a normal result from my next Hb1ac by eating less starchy foods and better carbs not the white varieties.

We all react differently to certain foods so that one shoe fits all approach doesn’t work for some.

I know my blood sugar goes through the roof with white potatoes white rice and pasta... I would be hungry so quickly after eating and just want to eat all day long.

So it’s finding what your triggers are, not what someone else does well on.

I don’t eat bread very often as gf bread I find is awful generally and bloat after eating all shop bought.

So I only changed to more fibre rich versions and cut out all the gf processed rubbish... I rarely buy anything from the free from aisle.

I call it Frankenstein food, laden with things only a Chemist can decipher... there maybe better out there now, but the last 5yrs I have avoided.

So I have to agree with these Drs in trying to change things... until there’s better evidence to say otherwise.