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Cytoplan for Hashimoto’s

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Has anyone had any success with Cytoplan for Hashimoto’s? I notice that iodine is one of the ingredients which I thought was not good with thyroid disease. I’m looking for something that will give me the vital minerals etc but preferably not a tablet unless very tiny. Also is d ribose recommended for Hashimoto’s. I struggle with tablets so taking several a day for all the different symptoms etc is a major problem. I use a vitamin d and a b12 spray, but these alone have not made any difference. My B 12 is over range now.

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mcdermott

Cytoplan make a lot of supplements, which one are you asking about?

Iodine should be tested and only supplemented if found to be deficient, then under the guidance of an experienced practioner. It is anti-thyroid and can make hypothyroidism worse, and said to be avoided if Hashi's is present.

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Flecmac in reply toSeasideSusie

Thanks that’s what I thought. It’s the thyroid support one. It seems strange that it’s to support thyroid but has iodine in it. Is there any other way I can achieve this without buying several supplements, especially tablets which I struggle with?

Thanks ☺️

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SeasideSusieRemembering in reply toFlecmac

"Thyroid support" supplements are a bit of a con. They all tend to contain things that stimulate the thyroid, eg iodine, but that's not what we want. The reason selenium is included is because it's a cofactor of iodine.

Looking at your previous post which has your nutrient levels, they are all currently good. I would follow Greygoose's advice and take a maintenance dose of B vitamins.

I agree with greygoose that you are a poor converter, with those previous results your FT4 is 117% of range to produce FT3 just 50% through range. So really, you're looking at either reducing Levo a bit, and adding T3, or consider changing to NDT.

Also, you maybe could consider doing a 24 hour saliva adrenal test to include cortisol plus DHEA and I would do this before taking any type of adrenal supplement. Look at tests by Regenerus and Genova Diagnostics who include both of those tests, avoid any test which just does cortisol alone.

Details of Regenerus and Genova are on ThyroidUK's main website:

thyroiduk.org/tuk/testing/p...

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Flecmac in reply toSeasideSusie

This time last year on 75mcg TSH was 0.05 mu/L (0.5-4.4) FT4 17.2 pmol/L and T 3 5.5 pmol/L (3.5-6.5). I came down to alternate 50mcg and 75mcg in the summer. Since this reduction my TSH has gone up from 0.14mu/L to 0.31 mu/L (0.5-4.4). FT4 has gone up from 18.06 pmol/L to 21.7 pmol/L (10.0-20.0). And FT3 has gone down from 5.3pmol/L to 5.0 pmol/L (3.5-6.5).

Not sure if I need adrenal supplement.

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SeasideSusieRemembering in reply toFlecmac

mcdermott

With a reduced amount of Levo, one would expect to see a rise in your TSH like you have had, but one wouldn't expect to see a rise in FT4 on a lower dose of Levo.

However, to compare results accurately, you need to test under the exact same conditions which are:

* No later than 9am

* Nothing to eat or drink before test except water

* Last dose of Levo 24 hours before test

Were both tests done exactly like this?

Also, of course, Hashi's means that results can fluctuate so it tends to complicate things.

Not sure if I need adrenal supplement.

This was being discussed in your previous post between you and Greygoose and you posted a cortisol result from 2017 which appeared to be low and you asked what you should do to support adrenals. This is why I've suggested you test as a result from 3 years ago is no longer relevant. The test will tell you if you need to supplement, and the supplement is different depending on whether cortisol is high or low.

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Flecmac in reply toSeasideSusie

Thank you. Yes I always follow those instructions every time I have my bloods, this is why I cannot understand why this is, although with Hashimoto’s it’s possible for confusing fluctuations. 😊

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