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Marz

Thanks for posting - I have her Newsletter so will have a read later - need to move a bit !

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TSH110 in reply toMarz

It is very good and has a real go at the BTF response for ALL the right reasons

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TSH110 in reply toMarz

Just hope people see it and read it.

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Marz in reply toTSH110

Judging by the amount of people who have requested information on any connections - then it should be well read :-)

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TSH110 in reply toMarz

I hope so. There are no simple answers but to say there are none (connections) so there’s nothing to worry about is complacent.

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DippyDame

Thank you TSH110 I'm a huge fan of Dr Tania.

Particularly interested in her words, "The biggest unasked, unanswered question is that of recovery from nonthyroidal illness syndrome (NTIS), also known as Low T3 Syndrome. This is a thyroid hormone health condition that involves great risk to life."

Those of us with (a type of ) Thyroid Hormone Resistance/low T3 find it well nigh impossible at the best of times to be heard by medics...

Thus issue during the current covid-19 crisis has been puzzling me!.

Stay safe everyone

DD

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Again, said things that need saying.

One question I have is whether the male:female issues with covid-19 could have a thyroid element to it?

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DippyDame in reply tohelvella

I've wondered about there being a genetic link...

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Hillwoman

Excellent stuff. Thanks for posting.

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Marz

For those wanting more of Tania's Blogs - scroll down and down to Related Posts - where you will find many more 😎

Safest thing to do right now is to assume that everybody with a thyroid problem is highly susceptible to this virus and take the greatest of care. It's too late after the event to take retrospective preventative action.

For the BTF to state any facts now that prove to be untrue will leave them wide open to severe criticism when provable facts are known.

Personally I don't believe a single word said by those who continue to prevent patients from being prescribed NDT as I know personally how good it is and how "unfortunate" I was to get kidney cancer with a compromised immune system whilst taking levothyroxine monotherapy.

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AmandaK

Dr Sarah Myhill is saying that all those diagnosed with ME/CFS should consider themselves as at risk. Many think that this illness is hypothyroidism by any other name as the thyroid is implicated.

There is a subsection of ME/CFS patients who have low T3 syndrome, which is chronic not acute, so such patients are at major risk.

In the charts detailing previous Coronovirus research, Tania provides the comormidities and the second is hypertension. Given that one of the main features of hypothyroidism is hypertension, this alone should be a reason for taking extra care.

You would have thought that these Coronoviruses would have given those advising on the current one vital information.

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TSH110

Yes I agree. I think the BTF stance is negligent and a dereliction of duty in advising those they purport to support. Glad Dr Tania Smith and others are questioning the glib assumptions of the medical profession where we are concerned. It’s shocking.

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MichelleHarris

I know this is about Thyroid but is this research saying Diabetes is the number one comorbidity? I havent heard that Diabetics are at greater risk. My comprehension isnt great x

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TSH110 in reply toMichelleHarris

They may well be at more risk with diabetes than with thyroid disorder. As far as I know the official information is that diabetics are in the at risk group who should stay at home, but advice is that those with thyroid disease are fine just the same as a healthy person. But as Tanya Smith says they have not researched its effect on those with thyroid disorder so they do not know. Some people have both diabetes and thyroid problems too. The only list I saw giving details of of a UK person who died of CV19 gave hyperthyoidism as one of the illness she had, along with a few others, which may have included diabetes.

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MichelleHarris in reply toTSH110

Thank you TSH110 x

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TSH110 in reply toMichelleHarris

I have checked and diabetes is not listed as a qualifying condition in the very vulnerable at risk groups, and advice is the same as for everyone else - social distancing not social isolation. So you are right - no special measures for diabetics. Perhaps they just say they are at increased risk more so than with thyroid disorder. I would have to reread Tania Smiths article to see if she says diabetes is the most common comorbidity listed.

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MichelleHarris in reply toTSH110

Thats not very good is it? Diabetics should be warned. I look after my nephew who is Type one x

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TSH110 in reply toMichelleHarris

Yes I agree - I can’t imagine diabetes is helpful where this virus is concerned. I hope he is ok ☘️🍀☘️

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lolajone in reply toTSH110

I have a friend who is diabetic. Diabetes was originally listed as a risk group but later removed she tells me

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TSH110 in reply tololajone

That explains why I thought it was on that list but does not appear to be there now. I though it was brain fog on my part. I wonder why they did that?

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MichelleHarris

I asked someone I know, medically trained, for their thoughts as I was worried about my nephew. This is their reply:

I understand the concerns, but a couple of things about this article:

The only study it cites about COVID-19 has a sample of 8 patients with diabetes.

The other studies it looks at are based on the MERS outbreak in the Middle East in 2012 which was a different virus.

The studies don’t account for severity/ level of control for diabetes or even whether it’s type 1 or 2.

A young, well controlled, type 1 diabetic is very different to an older, poorly controlled type 2 diabetic, likely to have other comorbidities (high blood pressure, heart disease, being overweight and sedentary). They also have worse health outcomes when facing an infection, so are almost definitely over represented in the studies.

Both studies had 4 people each who got MERS with hypothyroidism as a comorbidity. Really hard to generalise with numbers that small.

We still know very little about COVID-19 and who is more at risk of complications and why. In the meantime everyone should continue isolating as much as possible and only going into public for essentials

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