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Hi everyone. My husband just picked up my script from the pharmacy for my Levo. I have just opened the bag and the brand I have been dispensed is one I haven't had before - box is Levothyroxine Aristo 100mg tablets. On the side of the box it shows Marketing Authorisation Holder as Aristo Pharma GmbH, Berlin, Germany . Has anybody else had this brand or know anything about it?

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SeasideSusie profile image
SeasideSusieRemembering

DoeStewart

Have you checked the patient information leaflet:

6. Contents of the pack and other information

What Levothyroxine Aristo contains

- The active substance is anhydrous levothyroxine sodium.

Each tablet contains 25, 50, 100 and 200 micrograms of anhydrous levothyroxine sodium respectively.

- The other ingredients are microcrystalline cellulose, maize starch, heavy magnesium oxide, sodium starch glycolate type A and magnesium stearate.

Slightly different excipients from usual UK brands, I don't think I've seen "heavy magnesium oxide" before. Magnesium oxide can have a laxative effect but that is probably with a much higher dose than would be in one Levo tablet.

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DoeStewart in reply toSeasideSusie

Thank you SeasideSusie, just reading the leaflet now. I know I can't tolerate Teva but have never tried this new one. I'm due to go away 18th March so will use my old brand up and not start this till I come home incase it gives me adverse effects. I have never seen this brand before in the 30+ years since I started on Levo, I wonder why this has all of a sudden been dispensed. Money saving probably 🤔

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SeasideSusieRemembering in reply toDoeStewart

Sounds like a good plan, don't rock the boat with your holiday due.

I have a lot of faith in German brands of lots of things, including some supplements, so maybe this is going to turn out well and be better than your normal one.

Do let us know in due course. It will be interesting to see if anyone else has this brand dispensed.

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DoeStewart in reply toSeasideSusie

Thank you for replying, much appreciated.. Yes I will let everyone know how I get on with them. Be very interesting to see if others get this brand dispensed?.

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CelticElf in reply toSeasideSusie

Yes my partner collected mine today and I have the Aristo one too, I live in the South Wales valleys and I know of many women with hypothyroidism here

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DoeStewart in reply toCelticElf

Hi CelticElf, hope you get on OK with them. I have just collected my next script and again have received a brand I have never been dispensed before 'Northstar'. I have looked them up on Helvellas list of Levothyroxine manufacturers just to make sure they're not Teva. Will see how I get on with these. Good luck with your Aristo and keep safe.

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Thyroid63 in reply toDoeStewart

Just a heads up :Northstar sell Teva Levothyroxine 25 micrograms in Northstar livery - check the side of the packet. Northstar dont make their own 25mg

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TVOReason in reply toSeasideSusie

Hi I’ve just had a refill of my prescription of Levothyroxine and when I’ve checked , my local Whitworths have dispensed Aristo 100mg for the first time.I’ve been struggling on with Northstar, feeling very unwell for quite some time and reading the forum about different brands affecting people in different ways makes me quite wary.

On the box it’s from. German producer.

Any advice please

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SeasideSusieRemembering in reply toTVOReason

TVOReason

Have you tried the Aristo? I don't think I've seen any adverse comments about it, Teva is the one that many members have problems with.

If you've been "struggling on" with Northstar it sounds as though something isn't right and maybe a change of brand is what you need.

If I were you I'd make a new post of your own, describe why you are "struggling on" with Northstar, post your current test results including the reference ranges, and let's see if we can help.

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TVOReason in reply toSeasideSusie

Thanks for your reply I have read the posts about Aristo and I will try it and if I improve I will do a post on the difficulties I’ve had with Northstar

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helvellaAdministrator in reply toTVOReason

Regarding Northstar, I encourage you to report ALL side effects and bad experiences with ALL medicines including vaccines and diagnostic testing kits. In the UK, use the Yellow Card reporting system to inform the MHRA about any medicine issue you experience - or even suspect.

If in doubt, shout!

This post says more.

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TVOReason in reply tohelvella

Thanks for your reply helvella going to download the yellow card app today

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Lora7again

There is a company listed on companies house with that name.

Here is a link

beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/...

This is in the public domain btw

If you look at the companies history they used to be CEB Pharma Ltd but changed their name.

Another link about them

independentpharmacist.co.uk...

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DoeStewart in reply toLora7again

Thanks for the links , just seems odd that this brand has appeared seemingly out of the blue?

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Lora7again in reply toDoeStewart

A lot of companies fold and then start again with a new name. Could be tax purposes or something else. I am just speculating now but I do have my own company so I do know what happens.

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DoeStewart in reply toLora7again

Ah ok, fair enough Lora7again, makes sense. I normally have Mercury Pharma or Actavis and these suit me very well, will just have to see how these new ones do.

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helvellaAdministrator

Are you in a position to scan or photograph the box?

I'd really like to know the full details. I usually unfold the box and scan/photo as one. You can see what I mean here:

dropbox.com/s/7tte490umnz6s...

If you are, either email it to louise.roberts@thyroiduk.org or contact me by Private Message.

I have already checked the MHRA site (where they should have details of ALL products) and cannot find it. So it is very odd that a UK pharmacy has supplied it to you.

products.mhra.gov.uk/?searc...

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helvellaAdministrator

Thanks to DoeStewart, I have added an image of this product to:

dropbox.com/s/7tte490umnz6s...

It has a UK licence - PL 40546/0159 - but no PAR nor PIL on the MHRA site where they should be.

The Summary of Product Characteristics document is available here:

mhraproductsprod.blob.core....

Of course, being me, I have also raised the issue with the MHRA.

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DoeStewart in reply tohelvella

Thank you very much for your tenacity 😊

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K80BCR

Hi wondering how you got on with the Aristo. I’ve just got a new prescription and it is Aristo. I usually have accord 100mcg & wockhardt 25mcg. This is a new one on me, too. Concerned as I cannot tolerate TEVA & get very ill. I’m in a good place right now so concerned about new manufacturer. Stressful enough without this! So let me know how it’s going please. Thanks.

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DoeStewart in reply toK80BCR

Hi there, sorry can't comment on Aristo yet, I am finishing an old box of Mercury Pharma off. I was due to go on holiday and didn't want to risk taking the new brand incase it didn't suit me but as holidays are a no go now I am going to start the Aristo tomorrow. I too was extremely ill with Teva so am concerned about starting something I've not had before. I became ill very quickly with Teva so will monitor carefully and as soon as any unwelcome symptoms occur I will get a new prescription. Are both of your doses the Aristo brand? If you are starting your meds at the same time then we should both let others know how we get on via this forum. Good luck to you and fingers crossed.....

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Owleyes in reply toDoeStewart

Aristo

Hi how did you get on with Aristo?

I’ve just got my script and this is what they have given me

TIA

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DoeStewart in reply toOwleyes

Hi there, I got on OK with them, didn't have any adverse effects. I would say they aren't my favourite though as the tablets were chalky and dry to swallow. I only got them on that one script( 2 months worth). was back to Mercury Pharma the next time. I mostly get Accord now as MP seems to be in short supply but I am fine on either of these. I hope you do OK on the Aristo - good luck to you.

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RoniB in reply toOwleyes

I've written on here about Teva which I can't tolerate and I have now been given Aristo. They are horrible to take and they disolve on my tongue. Today's was the worst yet and I have an almost burning sensation my throat. I am not going to take any more and will request that this brand is added to Teva at my pharmacy as a "do not dispense" item.

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DoeStewart in reply toRoniB

I cant tolerate Teva either and have a "do not dispense" on my pharmacy records. I do remember other members saying the tablets melted on their tongues etc..but I never had that problem, I just found them dry and chalky to swallow. You can get another script from your GP surgery if you tell them you have been dispensed a brand you can't tolerate and stop taking the Aristo straight away? I hope you get sorted out.

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helen_m in reply toK80BCR

I just received Aristo too. I've been three weeks without levothyroxine (as all that has been available is TEVA and I react badly to that). I'll start taking it tomorrow and hope that it is OK. Also shortage of liothyronine round about Glasgow

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DoeStewart in reply tohelen_m

Hi there, I have been taking the Aristo for nearly a month and seem OK . Not the best of times to be trying a new brand of medication as I am sure lots of us are struggling through lockdown and the resistrictions we are living under. I have another month of the new brand until I re-order my prescription. Let us know how you get on with the Aristo. Good luck and stay safe.

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K80BCR in reply tohelen_m

I seem to be fine with the Aristo. Hopefully you will be too. I too have an awful reaction to TEVA. All the best!

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DoeStewart in reply toK80BCR

hi there, glad your doing OK with Aristo, I seem to be fine too.

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lolajone in reply tohelen_m

I am now 8 days without levothyroxine as the pharmacy just keep telling me that my prescription hasn't come in yet. (No concern from them and yes they keep pushing Teva at me which I refuse....anyway that's a whole other story). Can you please advise if you are getting the Aristo brand through a high street pharmacy? Thanks

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helen_m in reply tololajone

Hi lolajone, I'm getting my prescriptions now from an independent pharmacy. I was having no joy with chains like Boots or Rowlands. They would say they could give me non TEVA liothyronine then it would arrive and be TEVA. Same with levothyroxine. When I got in touch with them recently, they were willing to work a bit harder to get medication I could tolerate

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lolajone in reply tohelen_m

Don't think there are any independents where I live ....will try a few more

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crimple in reply tololajone

My Gp send scrip to online pharmacy Springfield in Richmond. They send my meds in post. They accept NHS prescriptions.

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lolajone in reply tocrimple

Thank you for the information, still trying to source so will try that. Presume if I say Springfield they will know what I’m on about

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helvellaAdministrator in reply tololajone

You'll likely need more than that! So here you are:

Springfield Pharmacy

Dispense both NHS and private prescriptions

Springfield Pharmacy, 124 Sheen Road, Richmond upon Thames, Surrey TW9 1UR, tell us that they now have Armour in stock. ‘Thyroid’ by ERFA seems to be much easier to get hold of. ERFA tell us that Springfield Pharmacy is also one of their listed UK suppliers.

Springfield Pharmacy are able to access a few different brands of T3 with a private prescription whereas your local pharmacy may be willing to access the UK brand only.

Tel: 0208 940 2304

Fax: 0208 940 2661

Website: springfieldpharmacy.co.uk

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crimple in reply tohelvella

Hi Helvella, they source Sigma Pharma 5mcgm Liothyronine for me! Don't ask how much my scrip is, but it is on NHS! I know I am very lucky.

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DoeStewart in reply tololajone

Hi there - I get my Aristo from an independent Pharmacy. Are you saying your prescription is 8 days overdue and you have had no Levo in that time? Can you collect your prescription and take it to a pharmacy of your choice? I dont understand why your prescription is taking so long if the GP surgery are sending it to them electronically?

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lolajone in reply toDoeStewart

Yes that is what I'm saying. I've had none for 8 days now, online renewal was done 6 April. And they couldn't give a scoobie. The pharmacy is attached to the GP surgery, cant ring them direct, can't go in, getting really annoyed. Its a special order due to intolerances to fillers, so no good going to the high street pharmacies, never had any problems with supply until the last few months. That's why I'm wondering if this would be an alternative.

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DoeStewart in reply tololajone

That is an awful situation for you to be in. Can you telephone your GP surgery and advise them of the delay in getting your Levo? Maybe they can give you a further script for say 3 months so that the pharmacy has time to get the correct make in and you won't have to worry for a while. What make do you normally have?

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helen_m in reply toDoeStewart

Sorry, meant to add. My surgery automatically renews the prescription but the independent pharmacy goes and picks it up. It's not sent electronically, as far as I'm aware

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helen_m in reply tololajone

I just had three weeks there without levothyroxine 😫 Just as well I'm furloughed at work as I would have struggled majorly

lolajone profile image
lolajone in reply tohelen_m

I'm still working and now starting to feel the effects :(

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DoeStewart in reply tohelen_m

This situation is just awful, can you imagine someone waiting for 3 weeks without heart medication, cancer meds etc... We are told constantly that there isn't a problem sourcing medication but there obviously is. I know Levo stays in the body for a while but I couldn't manage 3 weeks, I would be on my knees. Good job your not in work

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K80BCR in reply toDoeStewart

That’s outrageous! I’d end up in hospital as I have no functioning thyroid . You need to make a complaint to your GP.

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Animal96 in reply toK80BCR

Just finished 1 month on ARISTO and I feel awful. Waited for a while to see if my symptoms settled down, but they have not. Just waiting for the GP to phone me back actually. Bit worried as the just read the Warnings and Precaution section (should have done before but only checked the side effects section) it says to check with Dr before taking if you have had an underactive thyroid for a while (mines been 10 years is that a while?) and if you are over 50 - which I am).

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helvellaAdministrator in reply toAnimal96

The wording is poor but I don't think they mean "Check with your doctor if you have been taking another levothyroxine at the same dose for an underactive thyroid for a long time."

I encourage you to make a Yellow Card report to the MHRA about any medicine issue you experience - or even suspect.

This post says more.

🟨 Making Yellow Card Reports 🟨

healthunlocked.com/thyroidu...

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Jolouise13 in reply toAnimal96

I'm also on 100mcg Aristo and have been feeling gradually worse for a few weeks. I'm not sure when I first started on it as I don't take much notice of brands, having never had a problem before. Now I feel rubbish, my weight is increasing, my eyebrows look sparse and I'm pulling out hairballs I the shower. I hadn't thought about the change in brand until today.

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Moominmoore100 in reply toAnimal96

Hi they changed my meds to Aristo think they are making me ill I have stopped taking them and am ringing doctors to get my usual brand back my stomach hurts I have hives and feel awful I’m having blood test I’ve only just thought that it maybe a change of meds

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K80BCR

Thanks for getting back to me. I currently take accord 100 mcg & wockhardt 25mg. It’s only the 100 mcg. Aristo that’s changed. I am due to start them next Thursday once my accord is finished. I know what you mean about the TEVA, it took me awhile to figure out what was going on . I was so thankful for this site as it was here I learned about TEVA. We must be allergic to the mannitol. Fortunately the Aristo has no mannitol but there’s this heavy magnesium oxide. We’ll see. Let me know how you get on. I’ll let you know also. All the best!

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DoeStewart in reply toK80BCR

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helvellaAdministrator in reply toK80BCR

If I were you, I would consider changing over to the Aristo now - while you still have some Accord left.

Should you not get on with them, despite several people saying they have found them OK, you would still have at least a few days of Accord left you could revert to. Hopefully even those few days would give you some breathing room to get a replacement/exchange organised?

You can see that heavy magnesium oxide is, really, just magnesium oxide of a very precise specification - look here: sigmaaldrich.com/catalog/pr...

It is denser than some other magnesium oxide. I think that if you were manufacturing tablets, you would want the ingredients to be very consistent in terms both of chemical formulation and physical form. You wouldn't want to switch between icing sugar and granulated sugar! But they are both sugar.

(Yes, I know they use an anti-caking agent in icing sugar but I was trying quickly to come up with a graphic example.)

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DoeStewart in reply tohelvella

I find them OK, the 100mg tablets are bigger than my normal make and they are dry so feels like no coating on them. I have almost finished a months worth and so far so good.

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helvellaAdministrator in reply toDoeStewart

That is good news indeed.

None of the UK levothyroxine tablets is actually coated. But those, for example - like Wockhardt, which have a lot of sugar, don't seem as dry as those with little or none! :-)

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DoeStewart in reply tohelvella

Ah OK, thats good to know. I usually have Actavis or Mercury Pharma which are much smaller tablets. I'm just glad that the Aristo hasn't had the side effects of Teva.

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helvellaAdministrator in reply toDoeStewart

I would be perfectly happy if I get Aristo dispensed for my next prescription.

Ludicrous basis, but I have already had experience of two German makes (Aliud and Henning) - and they were fine.

Alwayssearching profile image
Alwayssearching

Just found your posts. I was given aristo two weeks ago for the first time ( used to have a different brand)and I’m sure my bitter/ metallic taste on tip of tongue has coincided with this.. can anyone think of a reason why this might happen? I’m on 100 mcg a day. It’s driving me nuts!

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DoeStewart in reply toAlwayssearching

Hi there, I didn't get this side effect with Aristo - have you noticed any others since you've been on this brand?

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Alwayssearching in reply toDoeStewart

No i don’t think so. Thanks for replying though, cheers.

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DoeStewart in reply toAlwayssearching

No probs. If you find the Aristo doesn't suit you then you can always ask the pharmacy to put this on your records so it doesn't get dispensed to you in the future. Keep well.

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Alwayssearching in reply toDoeStewart

Thanks i will. Best wishes

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DoeStewart in reply toAlwayssearching

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egcoles

Yes it happened to me when I went to collect my repeat prescription 2 weeks ago the pharmacist initially gave me by mistake Teva which I can not tolerate and there is a note on my records about this and I asked for Actavis the one I have been taken for so long now they gave me this new Levothyroxine Aristo saying that it was the only levothyroxine different from Teva they had in stock. So far the only thing I have noticed is causing me this new levothyroxine is soft poop and on and off hot hands which I think it could be a side effect of the 2 types magnesium it has as excipients.

Good luck to you with this new levothyroxine.

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helvellaAdministrator in reply toegcoles

Do bear in mind that the actual amount of magnesium is still tiny! :-)

A tablet probably weighs a few tens of milligrams. It is relatively hard to find a magensium supplement which is even as low as 100 milligrams and many are lots of hundreds of milligrams.

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Topes009

Hi, I have just started taking these and found they disappear in my mouth, as in just dissolve. Rang the pharmacist who said he’d never heard of that. Has anyone else had this with this brand? Concerned they are not working.

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DoeStewart in reply toTopes009

Hi there, I never had them dissolve but I did find them quite chalky and dry compared to my normal brands.

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Topes009 in reply toDoeStewart

It’s very odd. I’ve been taking thyroxine for more years than I care to remember and never known this. I think I’m going to return them and ask for a different batch or brand. The first day I took them I thought I must have somehow dropped it as it had just vanished! Lol. Was first thing in the morning.

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helvellaAdministrator in reply toTopes009

But are you having any other issues?

Do you feel under- or over-dosed compared with other makes?

If it is working, I'd not be concerned at the disappearance issue! :-)

Aristo is a long-established make in Germany. There are quite a few other options there so, if they were not pretty good, people could easily swap to one of the other makes. (Of course, we are all individuals and some of us might do well on one make that others dislike. And vice versa.) I have taken two other German makes and found them absolutely excellent.

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Hilary60 in reply tohelvella

Hi what at the other makes called please

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helvellaAdministrator in reply toHilary60

I have taken Aliud and L-Thyroxin Henning.

helvella - Thyroid Hormone Medicines

I have created, and try to maintain, a document containing details of all thyroid hormone medicines in the UK and, in less detail, many others around the world.

From Dropbox:

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From Google Drive:

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Ace97 in reply toTopes009

I found that they do dissolve in your mouth very quickly. I'm not taking anything at the moment as I'm trying to get rid of the Teva variety that's still in my system. Teva was making me short of breath and heart palpitations etc. not good. So I don't know yet whether the Aristo one's will be better.

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DoeStewart in reply toAce97

I also had those side effects with Teva, I ended up being sent by my GP to the hospital as she thought I was having a heart attack. Blood pressure was 200/100. I was almost bed bound with Teva. I'm glad to say I didnt suffer any side effects with Aristo. I hope you are feeling much better very soon and good luck with Aristo.

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Topes009 in reply toAce97

I found after 4 days of taking them I was exhausted. I wasn't prepared to risk continuing them and my health suffer. I contacted the company directly and returned the pills to them through the pharmacy so they could test them at their request, seems they were concerned and wanted to investigate.

I am back on my normal brand and feel much better.

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DoeStewart in reply toTopes009

I'm glad you are feeling better. I took Teva for a couple weeks and then realised what was causing the problem, it surprised me how quickly my health deteriorated. It did take me quite a while though to recover. I am super vigilant when I pick up my script from the pharmacy as so many new brands being dispensed. Stay well and take care.

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Mohammed94

Hi everyone. I have hashimoto thyroiditis and tsh levels are all fine.I’ve been on mercury and Teva none have worked for me properly I’ve been complaining to the Gp for over a year now and told them to maybe put me on liothyronine. I wake up in the morning I have my tablet then when I try eat like an hour later my whole body goes shut down mode confusion kicks in and I start to get some sort of anxiety but if I wasn’t to eat for the whole day I’d be fine or maybe eat like 4 hours after the tablet. Today my Gp said let’s try 1 more brand which is Levothyroxin Aristo 100mcg. I will stick to this for a while now and I will hopefully keep you guys updated on this brand. My chemist said Aristo is a really good brand so wish me luck and I hope everyone is safe.

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DoeStewart in reply toMohammed94

Good Luck to you, I hope the Aristo suits you. Let us know how you get on.

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Barfida in reply toMohammed94

I also get palpitations on mercury pharma; all good prior to eating and then my heart races after eating . Once it felt like a panic attack. I Thought I was the only one! My blood sugars seem very up and down on it too and I get dizziness on and off. I'm now about to try the Aristo brand . How did your swap to Aristo go?

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K80BCR

Aristo is fine for me. Yes pill larger and very dry on the tongue but otherwise all good. I was concerned as I react awfully to TEVA. But been on Aristo 100 mcg for 8 weeks and no problems. Thanks for info .

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Mmoore67

My latest script has given me these. I'm on 225 a day and am on my 2nd week of these. They dissolve instantly as people have said which isn't a worry but this week I've been exhausted and have patches of dry skin appear on my face as well as feeling really down. I'm going to switch back to my old ones.

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DoeStewart in reply toMmoore67

Hi there, I found them dry to take but fortunately no real side effects. Take your old tablets and request new script from GP. Also if you use the same pharmacy each time advise them that Aristo brand doesn't suit you and have it put on your records so you are not dispensed this brand again. Hope your health picks up once you are back on old brand.

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MonaLDN

Hi, Aristo is the only brand working for me, but I have problems finding a pharmacy issuing it.

Could you please!!! tell me where you got it from, I‘m running around with my prescription and no pharmacy is able to order it :(

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Welshgardener

I’ve just had them for the first time. How did you get on? Last time I changed brands I felt they weren’t as effective so reluctant to

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DoeStewart in reply toWelshgardener

I got on fine with them no.problems at all, good luck with them. If you find them not suitable then you can request another script from your GP, inform them that the brand supplied didn't suit, tell pharmacy to put on your notes that you do not want that particular brand in future.

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DeeFish71

I have just got my new prescription and mine are Aristo too - never heard of them before now. I am currently on Mercury Pharma ones, and not sure if these are making me feel absolutely terrible. I have also had North Star in the past, no idea why they chop and change brands so often in chemists. Cheapest cost probably. Will be starting these Aristo ones in a month as still have a month's worth of Mercury Pharma ones left.

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DoeStewart in reply toDeeFish71

I have had more brands of Levo dispensed by the pharmacy since lockdown than I have had in the 30+ years that I've been taking it. I seem to get a different brand each time I collect my medication (2 monthly). I got Mercury Pharma this time but I've had them before and know they suit me. If you think the Mercury Pharma are not suiting you then I wouldn't take another months worth ?

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DeeFish71 in reply toDoeStewart

I have another 5 pills left in this pack and may just go onto the new ones (Astro). I like to finish a whole pack before chopping and changing.

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helvellaAdministrator in reply toDeeFish71

If you can, it might be a good idea to switch while you still have some of your current product left. (So long as it isn't causing obvious issues.)

That way, you can try the product that is new to you while still being able to revert to the current product, if necessary.

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DoeStewart in reply toDeeFish71

Yes I would go onto the new meds, see how you are on them. Any brand that doesn't suit you can advise the pharmacy where you get your scripts dispensed and have it put on your records . Good luck with the Aristo, I hope they work for you

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DeeFish71 in reply toDoeStewart

Thank you - so do I! Take care.

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DeeFish71 in reply toDeeFish71

Been on these for 5 days now and feel absolutely terrible - dizzy, exhausted, can barely keep myself from slumping on the floor. Is it these or is it something else?

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DoeStewart in reply toDeeFish71

Oh goodness, sounds rotten. I'm sorry I can't help, I didn't have any adverse effects from the Aristo, hopefully somebody else will reply with either similar symptoms or some advice for you. I hope your feeling better soon, awful when you feel like you've gone backwards in your health.

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DeeFish71 in reply toDoeStewart

Thank you. Maybe I need to give it more time but then you know what will happen - the next prescription comes and it's another different brand!

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DoeStewart in reply toDeeFish71

Exactly that, I get my scripts two monthly and am lucky if I ever get the same brand now as the previous time - basically its whatever the pharmacy can get hold of ( and the cheapest price of course).

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Lynne_L in reply toDeeFish71

I have the same symptoms as you and been on these for a couple of weeks now.

I have worse body aches than normal and dreadful joint pain in addition to the dizziness and feeling like I need to slump.

I was trying to work out if it was these or something else, so thank you for your post.

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DeeFish71 in reply toLynne_L

I am sorry to hear that you are suffering, and hope you will be feeling better soon. My depression and anxiety have worsened as well, but not sure if it's down to Aristo, as been feeling like this over a year now. If only chemists gave us one brand to stick to, I think the Northstar ones suited me best, but its like a lottery which ones you receive each time.

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Rainyway

Hi, just been given the same brand myself, was hopeful for an added wonderful ingredient that would send my energy levels through the roof.....alas.....no such luck!!

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DoeStewart in reply toRainyway

No afraid not - the day they make a Levo with those benefits, hell will freeze over.

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Rainyway

I sort of feel my body is missing out as these dissolve so quickly on my tongue before I've had a chance to swallow them, the jury is still out on how they fare.

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DoeStewart in reply toRainyway

I never had that problem with them to be honest and they didn't make me feel any worse or better. I have had a few different brands of Levo supplied to me since Lockdown but only had the Aristo for one prescription. Good luck with them.

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Caldereta

Hi I have had my usual thyroxine brand changed also to astro I've been about a month on them and experienced bone pain headaches heat intolerance, one day I noticed I forgot to take my thyroxine, I felt some what better bone pain gone,I took my meds the following day and as before bone pain very hot swollen face and sinuses my face was like very bad sunburn and felt like it was getting hotter and hotter.My arms and legs pins and needles sensation and dizzy plus vertigo.

So left them off for a day no symptoms???

I wonder if you or anyone has experienced this also.

Thankyou.

Many kind regards vivien.

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DoeStewart in reply toCaldereta

Hi there, so sorry you are feeling unwell on the Aristo brand of Levothyroxine. I personally didn't have any adverse effects to that brand, the only brand that doesn't suit me is Teva. If you think its this new brand giving you these symptoms then I would contact your GP and advise them, you will need a new prescription. Also inform the pharmacy were you have your script dispensed, they can put it on your records so that you don't get that brand again. I also filled a yellow card in online, it allows you to say what effects this medication had on you. How long have you been taking the Aristo brand?

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Tracy01

Hi doestewart I had same brand 3 weeks ago for the first time in 12 years. After taking it for just over 2 weeks I stopped as was making me feel sick and giving me headaches.. took it back to chemist where the pharmacist changed it straight away back to my normal brand.. we should not be changed from one brand to another.. me personally I would take it back and swap it to your normal brand.. hope this helps you.

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DoeStewart in reply toTracy01

Hi there, glad you have sorted your Levo out. I had no problem with Aristo, only had it for one prescription. The only brand I could not tolerate was Teva which made me quite unwell and I filled in a yellow card for this. Fortunately I now get Mercury Pharma each script which suits me very well.

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melanibu

I've been on Aristo for two months and feel simply exhausted. I can only blame the brand change and feel wholly fed up. Might have to give that online pharmacy a try and just want the same brand. I just want to be able to wake up feeling like i have actually slept for 9 hours, but feeling like I haven't slept at all.

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helvellaAdministrator in reply tomelanibu

I always suggest the if you find a medicine unsatisfactory, you do a Yellow Card report to the MHRA (see Pinned posts).

Boots mostly supply Almus - which is Accord. And Lloyds mostly supply Northstar which, in 50 and 100 microgram tablets, is also Accord. (Though the 25 microgram Northstar is Teva.,)

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DoeStewart in reply tomelanibu

Hi there, make sure you tell the pharmacy that you normally get your script from to mark it on your records that you don't want Aristo brand. May be worthwhile filling the yellow card in on line to report your symptoms on this brand, many of us did this with Teva as many couldn't tolerate it. Is there nowhere local that has the brand you require?

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Shawry36

I've just started vencamil im on day 5 I've been on Mercury phama for 11 nearly 12 years now they changed them are you having problems with this brand as I'm ok in morning by 11am im shatterd of doing next to nothing im forgetting to so im looking for people on this brand to see if they are having problems im on 100mg

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DoeStewart in reply toShawry36

Hi there, well I only got Aristo on the one script so 2 months worth, after that I was back to either MP or Accord. I didn't have a problem with Aristo but I do like MP or Accord, they are my preference. The only brand I have had problems with is Teva, left me bed ridden and so ill. If you feel the brand isn't suiting you then I would get onto GP surgery and obtain new script. If you use same pharmacy each time then ask for it to be put on your records that you don't want that brand. I also filled yellow card in online to show the effects I had from the Teva brand.

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Shawry36 in reply toDoeStewart

Ok thank you I've only been on 5 days so I don't know wether to give it few more days I've had react to tevo and accorrd it was horrible side effects I experienced but thank you

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DoeStewart in reply toShawry36

Yes could be something else causing the effects, maybe see how you go. I had taken about 3 weeks of Teva until I put two and two together and read up on the amount of people showing side effects. You could make a seperate post of your own so more people see it, there maybe more folks who can answer you about effects on that brand.

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Shawry36 in reply toDoeStewart

Ok thank you I will do

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VioletElizabeth

VioletElizabeth - I am trying to get ARISTO now as Sanofi L_Thyroxin Henning has been withdrawn in the 150/100 or larger dose so no longer obtainable here via Germany - include Brexit in the reasons. I am 87 and do not want to make myself ill now through taking a medicine that makes me ill? Aristo seems OK, but my Pharmacist can't get it. It is July 2024,

Can anyone help?

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RedAppleAdministrator in reply toVioletElizabeth

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helvellaAdministrator in reply toVioletElizabeth

Aristo levothyroxine became available as Vencamil (a branded packaging but the same tablets). And then, as stocks were used up, Aristo levothyroxine disappeared.

I get Aristo so I know it is available!

Currently 100 microgram tablets only but we are hopeful that 25, 50 and 75 will shortly be available - maybe sometime in August.

helvella's medicines documents (UK and Rest of the World) can be found here:

helvella - Thyroid Hormone Medicines

helvella has created, and tries to maintain, documents containing details of all thyroid hormone medicines in the UK and, in less detail, many others around the world. There is now a specific world desiccated thyroid document.

I highly recommend viewing on a computer screen, or a decent sized tablet, rather than a phone. Even I find it less than satisfactory trying to view them on my phone.

helvella - Thyroid Hormone Medicines - UK

The UK document contains up-to-date versions of the Summary Matrixes for levothyroxine tablets, oral solutions and also liothyronine available in the UK. Includes injectables and descriptions of tablet markings which allow identification. Latest updates include all declared ingredients for all UK products and links to Patient Information Leaflets, etc. PLUS how to write prescriptions in Appendix F.

dropbox.com/s/bo2jzxucgp9hl...

helvella - World Desiccated Thyroid

Contains details of all known desiccated thyroid products including information about several products not considered to be Natural Desiccated Thyroid (NDT/Desiccated Thyroid Extract/DTE).

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helvella - Thyroid Hormone Medicines - RotW

Contains details of all levothyroxine, liothyronine and combination products - excluding desiccated thyroid products. Details available vary by country and manufacturer.

dropbox.com/s/dliou4fszbegw...

The link below takes you to a blog page which has direct links to the documents from Dropbox and QR codes to make it easy to access from phones. You will have to scroll down or up to find the link to the document you want.

Last updated 19/07/2024

helvella.blogspot.com/p/hel...

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