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Is it possible that a thyroid can be enlarged and absolutely nothing is wrong. I’m really struggling to get a hold on my health which has been dropped in the last year, particularly the last 4 months. I was certain I had thyroid issues but I’ve been told very bluntly by thyroid surgeon that I do not have a goitre and my symptoms are not from my thyroid gland which is apparently completely normal. I stopped thinking about thyroid to investigate other possibilities but I always come back to the thyroid gland.

Blood all within normal range except iron deficiency, vit D low, B12 low. I’m taking supplements for these myself. Also parathormone above range and white blood counts below range.

Ultrasound said thyroid prominent, lung function and barium swallow fine.

Constantly feel there is something in my neck, heart palpitations, swollen and tingling hands and feel. Low energy and mood. Dry itchy skin, aches and pains throughout body. Poor brain function

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Highly likely you have only had TSH and FT4 tested?

Add any results you have got

Low vitamin levels are common with thyroid issues

Low vitamins could be causing symptoms in own right, or could be affecting thyroid, or thyroid can be cause of low vitamins

For full Thyroid evaluation you need TSH, FT4 and FT3 plus both TPO and TG thyroid antibodies tested. Also extremely important to test vitamin D, folate, ferritin and B12

Low vitamin levels are extremely common, especially if Thyroid antibodies are raised

Getting vitamins optimal is important first step

Recommended on here that all thyroid blood tests should ideally be done as early as possible in morning and fasting. This gives highest TSH, lowest FT4 and most consistent results. (Patient to patient tip, best not mentioned to GP or phlebotomist)

Private tests are available. Thousands on here forced to do this as NHS often refuses to test FT3 or antibodies or all vitamins

thyroiduk.org.uk/tuk/testin...

Medichecks Thyroid plus ultra vitamin or Blue Horizon Thyroid plus eleven are the most popular choice. DIY finger prick test or option to pay extra for private blood draw. Both companies often have special offers, Medichecks usually have offers on Thursdays, Blue Horizon its more random

If antibodies are high this is Hashimoto's, (also known by medics here in UK more commonly as autoimmune thyroid disease).

About 90% of all hypothyroidism in Uk is due to Hashimoto's.

Low vitamins are especially common with Hashimoto's. Food intolerances are very common too, especially gluten. So it's important to get TPO and TG thyroid antibodies tested at least once .

Link about thyroid blood tests

thyroiduk.org/tuk/testing/t...

Link about antibodies and Hashimoto's

thyroiduk.org.uk/tuk/about_...

thyroiduk.org.uk/tuk/about_...

List of hypothyroid symptoms

thyroiduk.org.uk/tuk/about_...

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LouiseM46 in reply toSlowDragon

Vit D 38, taking 1000Ui daily

Ferritin 6, taking iron tables

B12 was also low in range taking supplements for that too.

Parathyormone 8.7 mildly above range

These are my results from medicheck

THYROID STIMULATING HORMONE 2.58

mIU/L 0.27 - 4.20

FREE THYROXINE 19.000pmol/L 12.00 - 22.00

FREE T3 6.39

pmol/L 3.10 - 6.80

THYROGLOBULIN ANTIBODY 13.200

IU/mL 0.00 - 115.00

THYROID PEROXIDASE ANTIBODIES 18.

IU/mL 0.00 - 34.00

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RockyPath

You are describing hypothyroidism. Medicine has a long and proud tradition of ignoring hypothyroidism symptoms, particularly in women, who make up the great majority of sufferers. The tests only look for a few common things, and if you happen to be genetically predisposed to produce the screaming markers of disease that they do not test for, then your cries for help will be ignored.

Sometimes I think the standard-of-care test protocol was cunningly designed to give as many people with thyroid disease a clean bill of thyroid health in order to let a profusion of other treatments be applied to the cascade of thyroid disease effects. Those treatments, of course, do not produce a cure, but do produce a heartwarming revenue stream for pharmaceutical companies.

You will find a lot of help here from people who have learned enough to care for themselves, when necessary, outside of the usual constraints of letting a doctor be in complete control.

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Getting all four vitamins optimal by significant levels of supplements

Vitamin D to at least 80nmol and around 100nmol may be better

B12 and folate towards top of range

Ferritin at least half way in range

How low was vitamin D. What dose are you supplementing

B12 and folate work together

Supplementing a good quality daily vitamin B complex, one with folate in not folic acid may be beneficial.

chriskresser.com/folate-vs-...

B vitamins best taken in the morning after breakfast

Recommended brands on here are Igennus Super B complex. (Often only need one tablet per day, not two). Or Jarrow B-right

If you are taking vitamin B complex, or any supplements containing biotin, remember to stop these 7 days before any blood tests, as biotin can falsely affect test results

endo.confex.com/endo/2016en...

endocrinenews.endocrine.org...

Plus likely strictly gluten free diet may help too, especially if Thyroid antibodies are high

According to Izabella Wentz the Thyroid Pharmacist approx 5% with Hashimoto's are coeliac, but over 80% find gluten free diet helps, sometimes significantly. Either due to direct gluten intolerance (no test available) or due to leaky gut and gluten causing molecular mimicry (see Amy Myers link)

Changing to a strictly gluten free diet may help reduce symptoms, help gut heal and slowly lower TPO antibodies

Ideally ask GP for coeliac blood test first or buy test online for under £20, just to rule it out first

Trying gluten free diet for 3-6 months. If no noticeable improvement then reintroduce gluten and see if symptoms get worse

chriskresser.com/the-gluten...

amymyersmd.com/2017/02/3-im...

thyroidpharmacist.com/artic...

scdlifestyle.com/2014/08/th...

drknews.com/changing-your-d...

Then get FULL Thyroid and vitamin testing in say 2 months, as early as possible in morning and fasting

Come back with new post once you get results

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LouiseM46 in reply toSlowDragon

Vit D 38, taking 1000Ui daily

Ferritin 6, taking iron tables

B12 was also low in range taking supplements for that too.

Parathyormone 8.7 mildly above range

These are my results from medicheck

THYROID STIMULATING HORMONE 2.58

mIU/L 0.27 - 4.20

FREE THYROXINE 19.000pmol/L 12.00 - 22.00

FREE T3 6.39

pmol/L 3.10 - 6.80

THYROGLOBULIN ANTIBODY 13.200

IU/mL 0.00 - 115.00

THYROID PEROXIDASE ANTIBODIES 18.

IU/mL 0.00 - 34.00

Private test for ceoliac was negative

Unknown allergies are also happening

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LouiseM46

I was ask gp about these tests also, thanks!

It may be the symptoms are purely from these deficiencies and the thyroid is absolutely fine

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