Results

[Craigmhor39]

Here is a screenshot of my latest results received 3 weeks ago. I did post to original thread but no feedback can anyone help me make any sense of these?

[greygoose]

Your ferritin is much too low. You should see your GP about that. He needs to investigate further, to see if you're anemic.

Your B12 is high but your folate is low. Are you supplementing B12? If so, are you also taking a B complex to balance the Bs?

[Craigmhor39 in reply to greygoose]

GP is not interested I’ve been told not to bother the practice with this again! I’m not supplementing with anything at present. Is there anything you would suggest I should take?

[greygoose in reply to Craigmhor39]

Me personally, no. I'm not that well versed in iron. Perhaps SeasideSusie could help? She knows more than I do on this subject.

I think it is scandalous that your GP takes that attitude! He is an exceptionally ignorant man!

[Craigmhor39 in reply to greygoose]

They told me there’s nothing else can be done re my thyroid meds levo is my only option and if I unhappy with this I should contact my MSP!

[greygoose in reply to Craigmhor39]

Disgusting! You could always chose to self-treat.

[Gryphon1 in reply to greygoose]

I have just had phone put down on me by my GP now while asking about thyroid results TSH 1.64 (0.35 - 5.5) T4 10.5 (7.86 - 14.41) when asked about other result re vitamins and iron was told same as Craigmhor39, he is not interested. No problem with thyroid so no further action and nothing can be done further. Was quite taken aback.

[Craigmhor39 in reply to Gryphon1]

It is absolutely disgusting! I am basically told I am lazy and all my problems are down to my weight. This is despite providing food and exercise diary for a month. Being told I eat better and exercise more than her. So was I recording the truth she asked.

[Mary-intussuception in reply to Craigmhor39]

Are you still on the B12 injections 10 weekly?

[Craigmhor39 in reply to Mary-intussuception]

Yes I am not supplementing.

[Craigmhor39]

Thanks I’m on Levo GP says my last NHS results were in range. Will ask for an increase worst symptom at the moment is exhaustion!

[Mary-intussuception in reply to Craigmhor39]

Your Antibodies results do not confirm Hashimoto's - have you copied them ok or is the decimal point in the wrong place ?

Have you had an Ultrasound scan of your Thyroid which showed Thyroiditis?

Are you still taking the other meds as I understand they interfere with uptake of Levothyroxine?

[Craigmhor39 in reply to Mary-intussuception]

I am only taking the levo now and have been for some time

[Craigmhor39]

Thank you

[Judithdalston]

When I read these results I thought your two antibody tests were within range; should the ‘14.600’ read ‘14,600’? Whatever I would improve your folate, ferritin, and vit D to optimal range with supplements - as said previously look up Seasidesusie’s recommendation to doses, brands etc. Might be worth taking selenium which helps with T4 to T3 conversion, and even other items like zinc, magnesium, vit C, vit K etc.

[Craigmhor39]

Thank you I did take NDT for a while but I struggle to focus on reading STTM to help me understand what I was doing and chickened out due to it being un-licensed!

[SeasideSusie Remembering]

Craigmhor39

Whilst your Thyroglobulin antibody result could be confusing, as all the other results are written with a decimal point (not a comma) I believe the result is 14.6 although goodness knows why they need to go 3 digits past the decimal point. If this is a Medichecks test then you have the incorrect range for Thyroglobulin. You have put 0.00-34.00 for both Thyroid Peroxidase and Thyroglobulin. It is 0.00-34.00 for Thyroid Peroxidase but for Thyroglobulin it is 0.00-115.00 so can you double check and repost your Thyroglobulin result with it's reference range please.

If I am correct then your antibody results don't show Hashi's currently, but your TPO (thyroid peroxidase) is high enough in the range to make one think Hashi's is a possibility and the antibodies would go higher at some point if retested. Also, I understand that you can have Hashi's without antibodies.

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In a previous post you say you're having 10-weekly B12 injections and this is why your B12 is high. When taking a B12 supplement we need a good B Complex to balance all the B vitamins and as your folate is very low in range you need one that contains a good amount of methylfolate, often recommended here are Thorne Basic B (1 capsule but you could take up to 3 a day according to the bottle) and Igennus Super B (2 tablets is the recommended dose).

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Vit D at 104nmol/L is lower that the level recommended by the Vit D Council, which is 125nmol/L. You should consider supplementing to the recommended level, particularly during the winter when we draw on the stored Vit D we made through the summer, then take a maintenance dose to keep it there all year round. A reasonable amount to take would be 1000-2000iu D3 daily along with D3's important cofactors magnesium (helps the body convert D3 into the active form) and Vit K2-MK7 which directs calcium to bones and teeth and away from arteries and soft tissues (D3 aids uptake of calcium from food). Retest Vit D around March/April, see what your level is then and adjust dose to find your maintenance dose when you have reached 125nmol/L.

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Ferritin is low at 27.8 and for thyroid hormone to work (that's our own as well as replacement hormone) it's said that ferritin needs to be at least 70, preferably half way through range. I think your exhaustion could well be connected to your low ferritin

restartmed.com/low-ferritin/

I don't think this is something that you should self treat with iron tablets, an iron panel would be needed to check your serum iron because taking iron tablets for low ferritin when serum iron is already high could make the serum iron even higher. It would be an idea to have an iron panel and full blood count done to see if there is any anaemia.

You can help raise your level by eating liver regularly, maximum 200g per week due to it's high Vit A content, also liver pate, black pudding, and including lots of iron rich foods in your diet apjcn.nhri.org.tw/server/in...

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Reverse T3 is fine.

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Are you still taking 225mcg Levo? If so then it's giving the low TSH one would expect, but your FT4 remains low at only 31% through range (and FT3 at 27% through range so FT4 and FT3 appear to be reasonably balanced and shows reasonable conversion) and I can't offer any suggestion as to why your hormone levels are so low with such a dose of Levo. It obviously needs looking into.

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Have you got the list of thyroid friendly endos from ThyroidUK? If not email Dionne

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Also you could make a new post with a title such as "Thyroid friendly endo recommendations Scotland".

[Craigmhor39]

Thanks

thyroglobulin antibody result 14.600 Range 0.00-115.00

[SeasideSusie Remembering in reply to Craigmhor39]

So what I said about your antibody results in my previous post is correct then.

As you have quite high in range TPO antibodies, it may be worth assuming you could have Hashi's and you can possibly help reduce the antibodies by adopting a strict gluten free diet which has helped many members here. Gluten contains gliadin (a protein) which is thought to trigger autoimmune attacks so eliminating gluten can help reduce these attacks. You don't need to be gluten sensitive or have Coeliac disease for a gluten free diet to help.

Gluten/thyroid connection: chriskresser.com/the-gluten...

stopthethyroidmadness.com/h...

stopthethyroidmadness.com/h...

hypothyroidmom.com/hashimot...

thyroiduk.org.uk/tuk/about_...

Supplementing with selenium l-selenomethionine 200mcg daily can also help reduce the antibodies (and helps conversion of T4 to T3), as can keeping TSH suppressed.

[vocalEK]

Huh! I came down with Scurvy when I was away at college. My gums were bleeding so I thought I needed to go to the dentist. Dentist told me that I needed Vitamin C. The dorm cafeteria only put out a few glasses of OJ in the morning. If you didn't get up early, only apple juice (not fortified back then) was available. This was also before the days of tiny refrigerators. Tang saved me. Or at least my gums.

[Craigmhor39 in reply to vocalEK]

I also have really bad bleeding gums!

[vocalEK in reply to Craigmhor39]

Try increasing Vitamin C in some way.

[Craigmhor39]

Thank you so much you have been really helpful x

[Craigmhor39]

Going to get iron checked would people advise going to GP or just bypass this and do medichecks?

[Mary-intussuception]

There's no indication of Hashimoto's in these results.