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Hi everyone!

I want to update you about my condition. I have been taking thyroksen dose 25 and before 3 weeks I did a test and these were the results:

TSH= 3.35 normal (0.37-4.4)

The doctor asked me to start taking the dose 50, but since I took it my heart beats started to get weird or should I say went fast and I just can say that it doesn't feel normal to me, it bothers me. I asked another doctor and she said basically your body can't handle 50 dose, so take one tablet and half from the 25 dose. I'm taking this now and it was good, but since 2 days the problem of the heart comes again. I'm so scared I feel that maybe I'm imagining this? Or is it really going fast? When the doctor checked it she said your heart is ok and it's in the normal range, but why I feel this way!!!!!!! I don't understand and it's driving me crazy.

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Marz

I replied to you three months ago about testing your Vitamins and minerals. You said you would post your results. I cannot see them. Low Irion can give you palpitations. Your results need to be good for your thyroid hormies to work. Read through previous posts of yours for advice ...

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Horse-lover in reply toMarz

Hi! I have them but there are a lot of information, I want to post a photo but I don't know how.

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Marz in reply toHorse-lover

Just the B12 - Folate - Ferritin and VitD for now - the result and the range ... If you want to add a photo you will need to back to the beginning of your post and follow the instructions. sorry am not good myself at posting pics :-) Type in the suggested results for now ...

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Horse-lover in reply toMarz

Hhhhhh ok. I think I will post everything.

Gamma-Glutamyl Transferase= 14.0 (12-58)

Serum creatinine= 0.61 (0.6-1.1)

Urea= 35.0 (17-43)

Uric Acid= 2.0 (2.6-6.0)

Vitamin D= 28.3

TSH= 5.35 (0.37-4.4)

FT4= 13.94 (12-22)

Serum iron= 100.2 (60-180)

Total iron binding capacity= 422.0 (250-400)

Magnesium= 1.9 (1.6-2.6)

FT3= 4.23 (3.1-6.8)

Protin= 7.7 (6.5_8.0)

Serum Albumin= 4.3 (3.5-5.2)

Bilirubin total= 0.40

Bilirubin direct= 0.1

Hemoglobin= 11.0 (12-15)

Lymphocytes= 42 (20-40)

MCH= 26.0 (27-32)

Hematocrit= 34.8 (36-46)

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Horse-lover in reply toHorse-lover

It's really weird when you start to think about all these things and test them trying to find the minor issue that causes this problem. I mean before I didn't even know what are these, how weird. I'm really afraid that I'm hitting a level where it's mental now not physical. What if my brain is doing all of these things and make my body believe it.

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Marz in reply toHorse-lover

Was your VitD measured in ng/L or nmol/L ? 60 is good for the first and 100 for the second :-) TSH too high and FT4 too low ...

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SilverAvocado

Horse-lover, a difficulty in raising a thyroid hormone dose, feeling speedy and overmedicated when you definitely arent, can be a symptom of adrenal fatigue.

We see this kind of symptom quite often on the forum. And I've noticed people always seem to be very obviously undermedicated when it happens. That TSH is far too high.

Unfortunately doctors don't acknowledge adrenal fatigue, so it's something you have to look into and trest yourself. The first step is to get hold of a 24 hour saliva cortisol test.

Although in general this is just another way of saying your body is overstressed. Being sick long term is a big strain on it, but you can do everything else possible to keep life calm. Everything that's a traditional healthy lifestyle, eat healthy food, sleep well, exercise gently but not strenuously. In addition keep your life as stress free as possible, and get extra food rest, meditate, take long baths, etc. All can be hard to accomplish when we're stuck!

The other thing is that long term you must get onto the thyroxine dose you need. Staying undermedicated is just keeping your body stressed. One option is to raise your dose super slow. Crush or dissolve the tablets so you can give yourself just one pinch or one drop in addition to your current dose. Stick with this for a week or two, then add a second pinch, and keep on going. If you get heart problems again with an increase, drop back to where you were before and wait another week before trying again.

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Horse-lover in reply toSilverAvocado

Thank you so much! That what my doctor is doing. I used to take 25 dose and then she told me to take 50 dose and I took it for 3 weeks but I didn't feel comfortable, then she said ok your body can't handle that it's high, so let's increase it a little bit to 35 dose (which is one tablet and half of the 25 dose). So you guys think she is doing the right thing?

Also, is it normal for my heart to go like this? Maybe it's not used to it. My question is maybe I should give myself more time when taking the tablets and after 3 months at least judge if it's making me comfortable or not. And as you mentioned the healthy life style.

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SilverAvocado in reply toHorse-lover

Its not 'normal' in the sense that nothing is wrong. Its your body having difficulty tolerating enough thyroid hormone to make you well. This will be because of some other problem.

You need to check out your vitamin levels, as Marz suggested, but also you should look into adrenal fatigue, as well. All these things help each other, as does being on the right dose of thyroid hormone. As improve in one area, the others will be improved.

Yes, going slowly is a good idea. It gives your body time to adjust all the rest of its systems to the new hormone dose. If you find the half tablet increase is alright, then stick with that for a few weeks and see if you can add the other half of the tablet, too. If you still have problems drop back again.

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wallye54

Don't you have a heart monitor?

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Horse-lover in reply towallye54

Hi!

I visited a heart doctor and he said there is nothing wrong. Whenever I go they do me a heart test and that's all. The thing is what if my heart was ok whenever they do the heart test and then when I go outside things get weird 🤔

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Horse-lover in reply toHorse-lover

I think it calls the ECG

You can purchase a Kardia app for your phone such as Alivecor which can trace & record your heart rhythm. You can then record when you are getting these episodes and show it to your dr.

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Horse-lover

I have a question, what if some people's bodies can't handle a dose more than 25? What are they supposed to do? Especially women who want to get pregnant and for that to happen they have yo increase the dose, but what if their bodies can't handle it? Is there surgery? Or other tablets? I once went to a pharmacy and they showed me other medicine for thyroid it calls Kelp Thallus.

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radd in reply toHorse-lover

Horse-lover,

Kelp is high in iodine, of which a small amount is required for healthy thyroid function but if you are not deficient and supplement iodine, you could make yourself very ill.

Your TSH is too high, FT4 & FT3 are too low indicating under-replacement. When your body is deficient of thyroid hormone, it can only be replaced through administering medication.

A high TIBC usually indicates iron deficiency and yours is over-range. Your serum iron is in range but an elevation of TIBC can occur before the decrease of the serum iron.

Hemoglobin is a protein in red blood cells that carries oxygen throughout the body. A low count can indicate anaemia and yours is under-range.

Low iron levels can induce a fast or irregular heartbeat when thyroid meds are introduced.

White blood cells are elevated. Have you had thyroid antibodies tested ? ? ..

Vit D looks low. Have you had Vit B12 & folate tested ?

Good advice from SilverAvocado re adrenals which become compromised through supporting long term low thyroid hormone. When thyroid hormone replacement is finally introduced, the worn out adrenals simply cannot keep up with the increase in metabolism as require adequate amounts of cortisol (adrenal hormone) that has usually become depleted.

I have been free of the palpitations and terrifying great big heart bangs that initially plagued me after first introducing Levothyroxine, for several years.

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Horse-lover in reply toradd

Thank you so much for explaining🙏

I'm a bit lost and confused about all of this. Hopefully doctors know what they are doing because I'm just a patient and I don't know about all of these things I'm not a doctor 😭 they say and I do.

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radd in reply toHorse-lover

Horse-lover,

Most doctors do not know what they are doing re thyroid issues, except to follow TSH guidelines that unfortunately fail many of us. Hence the forum.

Thyroid issues are confusing and the repercussions makes us more confused.

Many members are extremely knowledgable through having no choice but to educate themselves in order to achieve well being. Doctors are only general practitioners ie: a jack of all trades, a master of none.

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