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Why has my face sunk....i have no fluid at all

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15 years I started with unteractive thyroid 6 months into it my face sank and it is going worse with age I don't know what to do i have no fluid there,has anyone else got the same problem? I would appreciate some advice.

I am taking 50mg 3 times and 75 mg a week of levothyroxene

25mg Grossman t3

I just feel so miserable...any tips would be helpful.

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dgleds

Im not entirely sure what you mean, but years ago someone told me that with underactive thyroid it can screw up your muscles, which is connected to tissue...it might be called myopathy...We have muscles everywhere, so must be in your face too...

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greygoose

Do you mean that your cheeks are sunken in, or that your jowls are dropping? If the latter, it could be low Growth Hormone. What's your FT3 level?

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Madge72 in reply togreygoose

I look like I have aged 20years I have been like this a long time I thought when I started with t3 I would fill out I have had no metabolism.I feel better on t3 and my bowels are improving but my face is just the same.

T3....1.20 0.55-1.60

T4...5.38 4.20-12 1 12.00

Tsh0.00 0.38 - 5-33

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greygoose in reply toMadge72

Well, your T3 by that range is not quite mid-range, hardly high enough to be well. But are those Free T4 and T3? The T3 range is weird and the T4 range doesn't make any sense at all.

Your metabolism may be low, but you can't have no metabolism. You just need an increase in your T3 dose to bring it nearer to the top of the range. :)

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Madge72 in reply togreygoose

I don't know if it's free......i asked for t3 t4 th tsh

....i had them done in Spain.......i have dropped my t3 a little as I felt dizzy (now on Grossman 25mg)

I also take 200mg selenium..50mg b6......400mg magnesium

40mg zinc...b complex....could it be something to do with vitamins

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greygoose in reply toMadge72

You shouldn't be taking a B complex without getting your vit B12 and folate tested first. You should also get your vit D and ferritin tested. You could very well have nutritional deficiencies, most hypos do. But, as I'm not quite sure what has happened to your face, it's hard to say what's causing. But, it's more likely to be low B12 causing dizziness than the T3.

But, my money is on low Growth Hormone, because that affects our face badly. And it's quite common to have low Growth Hormone with low T3. So, you need to improve your FT3 level to improve your GH level. See if that helps. But, next time you get tested, ask for Free T3 and T4. They are the tests that give us the information we need. :)

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Madge72 in reply togreygoose

Luckily I have not started b complex yet.my Dr doesn't yet know I am on t3 so I will have to see him and hope he will do these test if not I go back to Spain in 5 weeks and will have them done there

Thanks I will now up my t3

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greygoose in reply toMadge72

You're welcome. :)

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Madge72 in reply toMadge72

Taking another look at my results my t3 says

Triyodotironina total(t3 total)

Tiroxina total(t4 total)

Hormonal tiroestimulante(tsh)

T3 1.20 ng/mL

T4 5.38mcg/dL

Tsh 0.00 mcUl/mL **

Don't know if this is more helpful more info on test

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Angel_of_the_North in reply toMadge72

Those are total T3 and Total t4 tests, so not useful. You need free t4 and free T3 - the levels of hormones that can be used by the body

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Madge72 in reply toAngel_of_the_North

Ok thanks

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Clarrisa

By “no fluid there” do you mean a dehydrated appearance? I definitely had that this past winter. I’ve made many changes to try & improve this situation: I requested to see a Endocrinologist who after taking one look at me offered Tirosint to see if it would absorb better than the Synthroid (I had been on for years). It was thought because I developed a sensitive gastrointestinal tract, Synthroid was no longer absorbing as well.

I have been brushing up & making a commitment to gluten free meal plans in hopes this will also aid absorption. I’ve been working on making balanced meals a priority not a afterthought. I also went for a thorough history & physical to rule out other possible causes. I added a vitamin C supplement. I purchased & wear a good hat (Coolibar). I started a skin care regimen using 100% Argan oil, & use vitamin C powder (True Botanicals) to reduce the shine if necessary. Also work on increasing walking.

I study this site as time permits. Although my mood improved on Tinosint my weight trends down on it (& made my appearance worse). Under Endocrinologist direction I now take it every other day & Synthroid on the between days (as I gain weight on Synthroid). I looked like a chipmunk earlier this week with puffy cheeks but luckily it went away.

I plan to get a humidifier before next winter & a filter (chlorine or chloride) for the shower water too. This morning I went for more comprehensive labs at my own expense to cover more bases.

I believe that if you follow this site & gather suggestions you will be able in due time to figure out (even if by trial & error as I have) what will work best for your own special circumstances. I hope to follow your progress.

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Madge72 in reply toClarrisa

Thank you I will look into it.

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Clarrisa

Hi, I was re-reading a post from a year ago (Madge72, entitled “Why has my face sunk... I have no fluid at all” & wondering if the suggestion to increase T3 did in fact work.

This is because I now feel in a similar boat with increased dehydrated appearing facial skin. Any experience, ideas are greatly appreciated (I will be rechecking my labs soon).

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Madge72

Hi l learned I have a sensitive colon and I am on a fodmap diet....however I have just had test for gluten intolerance I am beginning to think it now could be gluten as my colon is knotting up and I am now monitoring myself more.....as my bowels dont work as they should.....so trial and error.....fingers crossed hope this will solve my problem....From the beginning my bowels was the problem and because underactive thyroid is a symptom was concentrating on that.

Hope this was helpful and good luck.

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Clarrisa in reply toMadge72

Thank you so much for the fodmap diet suggestion, I will look into it. I believe I am at least gluten sensitive, as I can really tell when I accidentally eat gluten these days.

I hope you find the fodmap diet helpful. I think stress has been a big factor in my situation. I know I need to eat differently to help counter it, but didn’t know where to turn. Thank you again for your input.

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Madge72 in reply toClarrisa

Fodmap diet has helped....I needed colonoscopy to diagnose the problem....I can't eat food what ferments in the body this includes all the nice vegetables and fruit as well as gluten....it is hard at first but you do get used to it.....the hospital gave booklets...you can Google and print well worth having...good luck

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Clarrisa in reply toMadge72

I was put on a low oxalate meal plan (to curb flank pain) which also excludes the nice vegetables & fruit. I did try some kefir the other day & felt lots of gas. Be interesting to see how these diets differ.

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Madge72 in reply toClarrisa

I think you will benefit with fodmap....works for me...specialist says I have a sensitive colon....so I knot up quite easily so therefore if you dont know you keep on eating the food you shouldn't....when you stop all improves....also I started losing weight which I have been unable to do

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Clarrisa in reply toMadge72

Endocrinologist believes I am no longer absorbing (Synthroid) well. I am hoping fodmap can help with improving absorption. Thank you again for suggesting it.

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