Could my level be dropping on my TSH level to graves with a rapid heart beat or is it the food I ate.

[sarajuarez2912]

Okay if anyone knows about eating and your heart going up after eating a hamburger and fries like 30 minutes later, is this common after eating a heavy meal ? I'm just taking 2.5 of Methimazole once a day . I'm wonderinging now if my TSH level is going down for my heart to get to 104 the most...I know sometimes your TSH level can change, cause I'm starting to feel better as the days have gone by, even my breathing has been good yesterday and today...but the heart rate got me thinking after eating then 30 minutes later my heart went up to 100 then 104 then back down to 84. Anything anyone has gone through with graves and Hashimotos? Don't see my Specialist till the 22 of this month.

[HLAB35]

The interesting thing is how certain foods really heighten the immune response to a point where it's unbearable whereas others really soothe and heal. Hamburgers and fries is a very complex meal - lots of different enzymes required to digest it, plus you've got some antagonistic things in there - gluten and raw tomatoes (nightshades). Burgers are high in carnitine - which is good, but also high in glutamate which is bad. I'm guessing you've also got some food intolerances there and identifying them and healing your gut will help you to stabilise. Check out books on Hashimoto's to help.

[HLAB35 in reply to HLAB35]

For clarification I meant msg - monosodium glutamate, not glutamate (sorry) unless you made your own homemade burgers - even manufactured veggie burgers can contain msg. I have an allergic to response to it, so am very wary with takeaways. MSG can cause tachycardia!

[sarajuarez2912 in reply to HLAB35]

Thanks for letting me know.

[sarajuarez2912 in reply to HLAB35]

Thanks ! I'm Hashimoto and graves, so its hard for me to decide what is good for me to eat.

[HLAB35 in reply to sarajuarez2912]

Therefore I'd consider anything that'll help clean the gut of baddies and aid digestion, so fermented foods like Kefir will help. Starter grain sets are available online and some cheap small Kilner style jars is all you need to get going. I cover mine in a T-towel in a corner of the kitchen for 24 hours and it's done. Particularly helpful at this time of year with rich diets and so many bugs about! (I'm gluten free btw and that helped me a lot.)

[Hashi68]

For me, I notice the heatrate when I've eaten something I'm intolerant of, but with that meal it's hard to say what it might be. Wheat and MSG are possible culprits. Additionally, did you have a drink with it? Coke? Coffee? Just thinking it could be caffeine....

[sarajuarez2912 in reply to Hashi68]

I no longer drink caffeine to avoid a fast heartbeat, the food I ate was from a fast food restaurant and drank not all of my sprite drink( has no caffeine) but has sugar. Thanks

[SmallBlueThing]

Just for completeness, there's a very small chance it was "hamburger thyrotoxicosis" due to sloppy butchering not removing the animal's thyroid tissue, giving you an extra dose of hormones.

[sarajuarez2912 in reply to SmallBlueThing]

Wow I didn't know that was even possible. Thanks this is something new to me now.

[SmallBlueThing in reply to sarajuarez2912]

It crossed my mind this weekend, when I had some neck of lamb.

[Heloise]

I agree that a sensitivity to something in your meal causes that typical reaction of rapid heartbeat. Did you cook the food? Monosodium glutamate is a culprit so if you can find out if it was an ingredient.......

[sarajuarez2912 in reply to Heloise]

It was a fast food Restaurant. I've noticed now that when I eat beef my heat will start to race 30 or 40 minutes after I eat, guess I'll have to eat less than a full meal. Thanks

[Heloise in reply to sarajuarez2912]

Well, I would watch WHERE I eat if they use additives in their food. Of course, cattle are being injected with all sorts of things including hormones so ......

[helvella Administrator Thyroid UK in reply to Heloise]

The use of growth hormones in cattle, as done in the USA, is banned in Europe.

[Heloise in reply to helvella]

Are antibiotics allowed, Rod? And monosodium glutamate should be banned.

[Learner1]

I agree that it could be a gluten intolerance.

[CSmithLadd]

Any autoimmune disease wreaks havoc on the body because the body is under attack. Until it gets resolved, it only makes sense to be careful about what you eat. Fast foods? Far too many additives and gluten and whatever else they've put in it that you're unaware of! Please scratch fast foods off your list if you ever want to regain your health. You must learn to eat the foods that offer the best nutritional value and which more often contain the vitamins and minerals your body is lacking.

Gluten enters the body and is attacked by the immune system because the proteins in wheat are an irritant. When you have thyroid issues and eat gluten, the thyroid can often be mistaken for being gluten and thus also come under attack. Each time you consume gluten you can have a response that lasts up to six months. Who in their right mind would opt to choose that? No one -- not if they really understood how this all works.

Gluten ends up being destructive in the stomach and intestines and ultimately hinders proper absorption of the vital nutrients needed for adequate thyroid function. Any supplements and vitamins are not allowed to be absorbed. So one's nutritional health continues to get worse. Without good nutrition, our thyroids will never be optimal nor will our hormonal replacements be able to assist us.

The more we learn about how to heal our bodies, the more we realize that "junk" food is called that for a reason. LOL I used to not understand that. You could call me the "Twinkie Queen." Lots of gluten with a flair for sugaritis on top!!!!

Having Graves' Disease and subsequent hypothyroidism has taught me many things. Look to yourself for your health first. The adage, "You are what you eat," is so true. And as systems slow in our bodies, we need to ensure we are not only getting the right nutritional supplements but also that we can absorb them. If not, the thyroid cannot produce enough hormone to run all the systems of the body. And we then get sicker.

We do this to ourselves if we are not diligent about the matter. It is not as simple as taking this or that and magically we are well. It's our body! Who will care as much as we do about our getting healthy and getting our thyroid health under control (whether we have a working one, an overworking one, or none at all!)!

More disease and illness is due more often to nutrient-deficiencies than we may think. We can all make much better use of foods to help supplement the use of vitamins, minerals, and hormones. Soil used to give us these vitamins and nutrients when we consumed the foods grown within it. But that is not the case anymore. Our soil is depleted of those nutrients so we now have to supplement.

And we must do all we can to stay away from the foods that hinder the optimal workings of our bodies. Yes, like gluten and fast foods in general. I have no doubt your body was attempting to give you somewhat of a scolding!

Seriously, you know what I mean. I've had that same scolding more than a few times!

{If low on stomach acid (common in hypothyroidism but also occurs as we age) be sure to make use of sublingual supplements or add HCL to your dietary routine.}

glutenfreesociety.org/autoimmune-thyroid-disease-and-gluten/

paleoleap.com/11-ways-gluten-and-wheat-can-damage-your-health/

Of interest: chriskresser.com/the-gluten-thyroid-connection/

[hose1975]

Best guess would be the high carb load, to be honest.

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/217...

livestrong.com/article/5201...

Especially in the middle of the day for me.

[sarajuarez2912]

Yes, and its always around 6 pm when it happens, dinner.

[sarajuarez2912]

But yesterday I noticed that I ate non gluten chicken breast and I was fine.

[Ruthi]

High carbs is what occurs to me. This kind of reaction is not uncommon in people with Type 2 diabetes or pre-diabetes.

I think the short answer is don't eat in burger joints, but if you must just eat the burger and salad.

And most definitely, if you have Hashi's try going gluten free.