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I must drink enough, then.

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liverish

Does this mean that increased histamine levels can aggravate Hashi's? So having lots of gnat bites (and increasing histamine) can cause an attack? Well that explains a lot, it's the first time I'd seen that connection in writing.

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greygoose in reply toliverish

I think that maybe what it does mean - although I'd never connected the two.

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helvellaAdministrator in reply togreygoose

There is much reason to connect the two (thyroid and histamine - not necessarily Hashimoto's) - though which way round is a necessary part of the question!

I offer this paper:

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articl...

Not because it is the best, the latest, the most interesting, but it is fairly recent and the full paper is readily accessible.

Please don't ask me to explain it - the best person round here to do that is diogenes!

҉ helvella ɐllǝʌlǝɥ ҉ helvella ɐllǝʌlǝɥ ҉ helvella ɐllǝʌlǝɥ ҉ helvella ɐllǝʌlǝɥ ҉

Disclaimer: I am not a medical professional and this information is not intended to be a substitute for medical guidance from your own doctor. Please check with your personal physician before applying any of these suggestions.

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greygoose in reply tohelvella

No, I didn't mean histamine, I meant gnat bites. Although, you'll probably say 'comes to the same thing'. :D

Thank you for the link.

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shawsAdministrator

That's a good tip. I think many of us don't drink sufficient water. We probably think 'other' types of drink are sufficient.

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greygoose in reply toshaws

I once read about a woman who drank lots of soda and milk and stuff, and when her doctor said she should drink more water, she was amazed. She said she'd never thought about drinking water! lol I was amazed when I read that. When I was a kid, that's all we had to drink. So, I've always drunk lots of water. But I suppose later générations had more choice.

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Treepie

Here in Gods own country the water is very good to taste ( unlike some parts of the U.K.) ,but I still forget to drink it

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greygoose in reply toTreepie

:( So, what do you do when you're thirsty?

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Treepie in reply togreygoose

Coffee,but occasionally a little water when really thirsty ,point being I should not wait until then !

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greygoose in reply toTreepie

Well, that's debatable, but coffee is no substitute. Doesn't even quench a thirst, without talking about the caffeine content! You must be high as a kite most of the time! lol :D

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Spareribs in reply toTreepie

Where is your 'God's own country' as so many lay claim to it?

It's a scam to make us think/drink 'pre-dehydration'.... get the trendy bottle.

When we're thirsty we'll naturally drink!

Although all drinks are mostly water, carbonated have loads of sugar - Pepsi has 14 teaspoons - so you remain unquenched so drink more!

(still better than sweetners 'tho)

Like waiting for a meal - would you like another drink?

Someone said today's average 8 year old has consumed as much sugar as in my mum's lifetime (88) - & boy, she loved her sugar, cakes, biscuits, sweets, treacle toffee! etc... J :)

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Treepie in reply toSpareribs

Nay lass ,there 's only one according the natives of Yorkshire. But I am what they used to call a "cummer in" not a native but a "yellow belly" ,another term not used much thankfully!

Yes there are too many sugary drinks and it is surprising how much gets put in foods. I know many with our illness cannot control their weight but much obesity is self inflicted by addiction to sugar.Or one might say big/ food/ cola etc corporate junk producers.

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Spareribs in reply toTreepie

Yes we're new to the village here is sunny Salop. We're nesh here.

(oui GG Il a un sens différent en français!)

only been here 30 years,, from 10 mile away!

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greygoose in reply toSpareribs

??? What? Salope? lol But there's an 'e' at the end.

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Spareribs in reply togreygoose

Isn't there always an extra e en Francais n'est pa?

(only pigeon french sorry)

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greygoose in reply toSpareribs

Ummm... no. lol

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Spareribs in reply togreygoose

Drat - so I DID learn nothing at school...

e may be female?

French - e

Spain - o

Italy - i (or o)

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greygoose in reply toSpareribs

e does sometimes make a word feminine, but the masculine of 'salope', is 'salopard'. I'm sure you didn't learn that in school! lol

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Treepie in reply toSpareribs

We say someone is "Nesh" if not able to stick cold / wet weather of which there is plenty up here . It's grim up North. Should not apply in sunny Salop.

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SAMBS in reply toSpareribs

'scuse me if I Tryand show off....

.......en France - is the country

il est français - he is french

elle est française - she is french

Ils sont du France - they are from France

GG et moi - nous habitons en France - we live in France.

for give my temerity pls...:-)

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greygoose in reply toSAMBS

de la France ! vive la France, elle est féminine !

But no, I Don't think you would say 'ils sont de la France'. Doesn't sound quite right to me. Ils sont français, ils habitent en France, ils viennent de la France... depending on the context. ;)

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SAMBS in reply togreygoose

conjugating still gets me,

I never properly got past 1st lesson in avoir and Etre verbs just before moving here! Didn't do it in School at all so I am happy to stand corrected :-)

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greygoose in reply toSAMBS

Buy yourself a Becherelle! Every school child has one, you can get one quite cheap in any librarie - or even in the supermarkets at this time of year. And it's all done for you - every single verb in every single term. You just have to copy! Wouldn't be without mine!

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SAMBS in reply togreygoose

yes I've got one, it's a 2nd hand French copy given to me a few years ago but about 5-10 minutes of reading it does my brain in, can't concentrate, then forget what I've read.

one of the joys of one of my other health problems.

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greygoose in reply toSAMBS

Well, you're not supposed to sit and read it through. Just dip into it when you need to know how to say something - bit like a dictionary. I just use it when I write something - or when I have to make an important telephone call. And a lot of it has stuck over the years. :)

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Spareribs in reply togreygoose

Much easier to say it wrong to let the conversation flow, & le français laugh....

& we have a glass of wine together..... :D

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greygoose in reply toSpareribs

Does rather depend on the circumstances! lol

in reply toTreepie

Hi, just thought I'd mention Fluoride in our tap water. I have read it can be detrimental to our Thyroid glands?? I drink plenty of water because I love it, but have changed to bottled Ashbeck (some bottled water can apparently contain Fluoride). I also decant it, because of the chemicals released from the plastic bottles if they are reused.

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greygoose in reply to

Fluoride is indeed very bad for your thyroid - and a lot of other things, as well! Have a look here :

holisticdentistry.news/2015...

But there's a difference between naturally-occurring fluoride, and the poison they put in our water and toothpaste.

in reply togreygoose

Thank you for that greygoose.

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greygoose in reply to

:)

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Treepie in reply to

Not all areas of the UK have fluoride in the water.Check with your supplier as you can waste a lot of cash on bottled water.

in reply toTreepie

Thanks but sadly we are very fluoridated... but definitely the first thing to do is to check your own area. x

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Baggiebod in reply toTreepie

I think it is the taste of the fluoride in the tap water which puts me off! also we get a white scum floating on the top which is horrible. Been like it for decades, too.

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greygoose in reply toBaggiebod

That sounds awful! I Don't blame you for not drinking it. I wouldn't even want to take a bath in it!

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Baggiebod in reply togreygoose

Yes it is, the Epsom salts improve it in the bath! xx

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Baggiebod in reply to

I can't stand tap water, but I now force myself to drink bottled mineral water because it is good for you. Before being ill with my underactive thyroid I never drank water just fizzy pop, fruit juice and the occasional coffee. Never have been able to bare the taste (or even the smell) of tea! and apparently tea is full of fluoride so I am glad I don't like it!

in reply toBaggiebod

Hi Baggiebod, You and me both on the tea front yuk! I used to filter my water for years not because of Fluoride (didn't associate that then), but for same reason as you. Stopped filtering it when I had a bad batch of filters...wow bad colour water. I love the Ashbeck water but have to drink it quite cold. I take water with me everywhere I go, feel lost if I don't...it's like leaving your phone at home. x

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Baggiebod in reply to

Yes, I take bottled mineral water everywhere with me now, too! and I definitely agree with you regarding being best cold and take it in a cool bag with a ice pack! Nothing more horrid than room temperature tap water - possibly worse than tea x

in reply toBaggiebod

Hi Baggiebod, I've tried to private message you..not sure if it worked. First one I have sent to anyone??

Regarding brilliant water bottle that keeps drinks cold for 24 hours.?

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Baggiebod in reply to

Hi there, no I didn't get a PM but I just use a little cool bag and a ice pack. It keeps cool for a few hours if you chill the water thoroughly in the fridge first. Hope this helps!

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Treepie

Addicted ,but cutting down.Just worked out that two packs a week = £7 , cheaper in your neck of woods.Just finished supply daughter brought from Dordogne.lol

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greygoose in reply toTreepie

Oh I have no idea how much coffee costs here! I've never drunk it at home, and only rarely outside. It just enver tastes as good as it smells. Such a disappointment.

Hope your daughter enjoyed the Dordogne. I was there this time last year. It's paradise on earth and where I want to finish my days. Perhaps... Or maybe Southend...

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SAMBS in reply togreygoose

can't beat a good the (tay) anglais Can you?

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greygoose in reply toSAMBS

I Don't drink tea, either. lol

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Justiina

Oh. Histamine info everywhere now.

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grauntieannie

Really helpful. Merci.

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greygoose in reply tograuntieannie

You're welcome. :)

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SAMBS

that's one thing the docs emphasize over here, and probably why the French drink it in gallons. I buy 6 ltrs bottled & shrink wrapped at a time, it works out at around 17 centimes per litre bottle - you are all being ripped off in UK with what you have to pay the Supermarkets there.

I don't drink tap water, although I do filter it for the kettle and my cuppa, because it is very hard and I'm concerned as to the amount of calcium in it (is that the same as calcaire GG).

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helvellaAdministrator in reply toSAMBS

It is also very important not to drink too much. I have several times posted about the poor woman who suffered brain damage from excess water.

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greygoose in reply tohelvella

Totally agree with you, Rod. My doctor once told me to drink 3 litres a day. I told him... no.

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SAMBS in reply tohelvella

I only buy in bulk once a fortnight or so as more cost/time effective and lasts me a week or so.

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greygoose in reply toSAMBS

Oh, me too! Best way to do it.

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greygoose in reply toSAMBS

Calcium carbonate or calcium bicarbonate, yes. In English you would call it limescale.

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Smartpants

Hi again all!! I don't know if I've got the wrong end of the proverbial stick, but I've taken Cetirizine Dihydrochloride 10mg everyday for the last 2+ yrs because of allergies that causes my asthma (dust etc.) Is it the same as if you were taking antihistamine? Oh yes, by the way, I filter my water, as it's very hard here in East Anglia and has a very strong smell of chlorine, makes me think I'm about to swallow a glass of swimming pool water!!!! I try to drink 1 to 2 litres a day of water, although that doesn't always happen!!

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SAMBS in reply toSmartpants

I moved here from N Essex and thought the water there a doddle compared to here now. Never seen so much limescale as in current house.

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Smartpants in reply toSAMBS

Yes you're so right, I too from Essex and nothing compared to here, by what I've seen it do to a washing machine in two yrs, I definitely don't want to drink it!!!

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