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Still In the grip of bl***y PIP.

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Thanks to Helvella for this link from today's Guardian: theguardian.com/society/201...

Just to add to my previous post-PIP prattle, here's what has happened to me thus far as a result of the stress of the PIP assessment with the ATOS lady, who was as nice and comfortable to deal with as a Pitbull cross that was quite still but had its hackles raised and its eyes fixed askance, somewhere just in front of you, so that you knew you were in its peripheral vision and being watched.

Immediately after the interview I crashed. By this I mean my limbs felt like they had the strength of over-boiled spaghetti with joints filled with ground glass and muscles and tendons that had just been chargrilled. The pain across my neck and shoulders, from its having settled prior to the PIP assessment into dull and exhausting, had been exacerbated to excruciating. The nausea, sporadic at most times, became a constant companion along with its little friend postural hypotension.

The neck and shoulder pain has not only NOT abated but has worsened two months down the line, sending lightening shocks down my arms and into my wrist to settle like a track of still-hot lava – for hours. And hours. And hours. I wait until the nausea and exhaustion from the pain are too much before I take the Ibuprofen, scared that if I take it too often it will not work anymore. Especially worrying since any of the codeine-based crap just heightens – guess what? YES! The nausea! Which I have to say for the last month has thankfully receded to around 3 - 4 times a day, either before, during or after eating, or any other time it feels like it. You’d think that the silver lining would be weight loss, but no. Still have a full-sized, three-tiered-cake-top. And postural hypotension seems to have decided to stay awhile. Must like me.

Actually, the pain has been slowly extending its range into previously unfelt – and unknown – places. Like the bit where your inner thigh joins ... the rest of you. And, I mean, what the hell is the stabbing pain right up the proverbial flue all about? I wouldn’t mind if it was because of having had hot, rampant sex, but the only hot and rampant thing around here is my retriever at dinner time! I’ve had these pain-experiences I call ‘stabbers’ in odd places for a long time. Now they've become quite inventive; I've had them in my big toe, often simultaneous with one in my groin; my ear lobe, my hip, my guts, my bum – if I were superstitious I’d think there was someone out there with a doll that looks like me and a set of hatpins. Come to think of it …

I am weak, fatigued, tachycardic, and angry. Boy, am I angry. Word-finding, apart from b*****d, %&*+~#, ***t and ~#@’!!!, has become an adventure in wandering loosely around the meaning as though in a linguistic maze, trying to either happen-upon, stumble over or just s**d**g remember the B****Y WORDS, FOR GOD’S SAKE!

And, since that fecking – can I say fecking, admin? – assessment, my hair has thinned to such an extent that the haircut I paid a ridiculous sum for six weeks ago, because my hair had seemed to evolve into one of those twig confections rammed together by squirrels in the birch tree at the bottom of the garden, now looks freeze-dried; it reminds me of an old lady’s, her having emerged from the local salon in the hairdresser's parlor, with a hair-do like a translucent hat of fuzz glued into place by lacquer, haloing a pink, heat-tortured scalp. It is NOT a good look. Especially without eyebrows. Thank god the other patch of thinning hair cannot be seen publicly. Or privately, for that matter – remember the wedding-cake-top?

And nails? Nails?

So, Helvella, thanks for the link. And just to add that it was quite timely for me - I am seeing an ME/CFS guy who is a ‘Consultant in Rehabilitative Medicine’ and is a specialist in MS and CFS. And who has written papers showing similarities (what’s the proper word?) between MS and CFS – and is very much aware of the thyroid links. Only seen him once so far – I’m hoping for a longish and fruitful working relationship with the man, since the one with Madam Pouter Pigeon, Autocrat (i.e. endo) has deteriorated into my being a little cash cow who needs to know her place and NOT ARGUE (she actually thinks I’m going to go back to Levo …). But I won't hold my breath. Just yet. But, if this man is an MS specialist - and he understands the thyroid links ....

Going to lie down now.

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Oh Schenks, this is your new career - Author. Such a hilarious tale and would be even more so if we did not know that all the pain was real. I so feel for you and hope this awful condition eases soon. Been waiting with baited breath for the past couple of years to hear from ATOS for my son's PIP assessment (it certainly gives you the Pip!

Panic set in when we (parents of special needs children) heard about this a few years ago. Not many have had this done and the rest of us just keep quiet and hope it will go away or THEY won't find the time to do it because of a backlog of assessments. A slightly different case than yours though, as their PIP's are for the services they can access (there are very few) and you can bet th allowance will not go up in line with these measly services.

Anyway, wish you good luck with yours and hope you are soon much freer from pain.

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Heloise

Oh Schenks, how brutally funny. I was hoping you had improved by now. Some of those phantom pains provoked some memories. It's too late to really examine your symptoms but I know the videos by Dr. Bergman which I have posted at least fifty times explains the nervous systems. Have you seen them?

youtube.com/watch?v=T_Re4ja...

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Schenks in reply to Heloise

No - but I will now - thanks Cherub. Bit worried about the 'tool late to really examine my symptoms' - eh? Am I not going to be able to undo some of this sh***?

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Heloise in reply to Schenks

Oh, no, no, no, Schenks. I just didn't have time to look at your history and get more of a grasp of what has been going on. I knew you had posted for quite a while.

The thing about pain, your body and your brain remember it even when gone, which makes it difficult to rid yourself of it. In fact, they are using electrical impulses on the head to try and change the memory. Still experimental though.

Have you tried Gaba, the amino acid? I think the brain makes up some of this pain and Gaba quiets overactive neurotransmitters. How about your B12 level? and of course vitamin D.

I didn't realize you had MS. Some people diagnosed were actually B12 deficient even though blood tests may say otherwise. I do hope you can get to the bottom of it.

This video is shorter and may be more apropos.

youtube.com/watch?v=0JAdAOf...

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Schenks in reply to Heloise

Gotcha, Heloise - thanks. You're right - I've tried so many times to take a run at this bitch of an illness - though why 'bitch' beats me since female dogs are fairly wonderful. So I have decided to sit at a 'baseline' of 2 grains of NDY a day, suboptimally functional and just aim to read a chapter a day of the thyroid books, making pertinent notes and finally creating a plan of action - and more or less starting from scratch.

It'll take a few months but, unless I peg it in the meantime, I'm going nowhere else! I've been trying it too piecemeal before now but I realise I just can't manage it all. I'm being overwhelmed at each attempt by fresh influxes of caveats and ifs and buts.

I'll make a note of the Gaba, and am going to ask the ME/CFS specialist to prescribe B12 injections - my blood results show high levels from the supplements I've been taking but I now realise that is no assurance that I'm using the blasted stuff.

Thanks for the videos - when my brain is calmer and I can take 'input', i'm going to sit and watch them until I absorb.

Thanks again.

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Heloise in reply to Schenks

Such a struggle, isn't it.....WHEN YOU HAVE TO DO IT YOURSELF.....that's what is so frustrating. I think you will get a lot out of the second one on neuropathy. It is valuable information and in my twenty years of looking into health, I think finally someone has figured it out.

I hate to throw too much at you as you plow along but do you know about methylation and the MTHFR gene defect? I think you need a specific form of B12 in the injection. I'm sure there is an answer for you and I think you are right about the supplements. Receptors can be destroyed so closes off the use of nutrients.

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Schenks in reply to Heloise

Haven't a clue what you're talking about - how does one check about what form of B12? Is there a link you could provide, or is it in the ones above (just about to watch the last one).

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Heloise in reply to Schenks

suzycohen.com/articles/meth...

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Sh*t. Wow. Thanks Helly - will be at these all afternoon - no wait, Hubby at christie's tomorrow - will be thursday.

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Heloise in reply to Schenks

Lots of revelations, Schenks? I hope so.

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Schenks in reply to Heloise

Will let you know - I have a feeling some may have been available on this site in typed format, but I find it hard to read and absorb when well-below below parr, let alone below optimum!

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Heloise in reply to Schenks

You can go right to You Tube - Dr. John Bergman in your search line and a list should come up. I've watched many of them...all brilliant.

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Schenks in reply to Heloise

XXX

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Schenks in reply to Heloise

Ah - 25 minutes long. will have to wait until tomorrow. Going to watch those before i get hooked on Healthunlocked and use up my reserves. Thanks cherub - will come back when i've watched them.

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Heloise in reply to Schenks

One more things about the videos by this genius. He looks at every pain or symptom as a signal coming from your exceptionally brilliant body trying to tell you what is wrong. He digs to find out what your body is saying with a good deal of respect that the body knows exactly what it is doing and why.

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Schenks in reply to Heloise

I'm now really looking forward to watching these. How did you find him? By the way, there is no point in my bookmarking this - it will just drown in all the other bookmarks that are so important but which I have been too undisciplined, energy-wise - to work tough.

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Heloise in reply to Schenks

Actually Pettals (don't ask which one) put it on the forum. I had already posted David Clarks videos which are exceptional but doesn't tell you what to do about the 24 reasons for low thyroid. This man looks at the whole body as interrelated. He has an 8 part series on thyroid alone. He is willing to stand up to the kings who wear no clothes. Medical system is now taken over by corporations. Just as well to avoid them if possible.

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Schenks in reply to Heloise

Generous woman, you.

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serenfach

Aaahh! The stabbers! I call them the pin fairies. There used to be one, and she only attempted the stabbing at night, but they have bred, and they stab be anytime, anywhere now. Standing at the till and one of the little lovelies stabs in the big toe and bum at the same time, so you jump and start rubbing your nether regions, which is a bit of a surprise to the queue behind you, and they gently migrate to other tills...

My Vit D was very low, and I thought to bombard them with this, and I think it has given them something to think about, or they are dying off in the Autumn, but they are still around. One has just stabbed me in the shoulder, so I think she was sitting there reading this, giggling silently.

If you find a way of killing them, horrifically preferably, do let me know, and we can have a bonfire of the pin fairies!

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Schenks

That made me laugh! I wonder if the big toe/bum fairy has sisters? Because if so, one of them is here - the bitch! but i have to say, i love the image of you jumping and rubbing your posterior - indicting the person in the queue behind you!

Interesting - i have tailed-off taking the 2500 mg of vit D over the past few weeks - now you mention it, my flick-knife fairies do seem to be a bit more active. time to revisit the bottle. and the Vit D ...

I'd love tpo have a bonfire of the pin fairies with you. That'll teach them to be so vain!

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