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Hello everyone,

A healthy and happy new year to you all!

I was diagnosed with MBC last October to my liver. Inoperable. I’m 52.I’m doing chemo now and last week I met a lady while in chemo who’s living almost resumed a “normal” life except for a monthly infusion and the tiredness. She was so jolly and in good spirits. She asked me why I looked so sad. I told her I didn’t wanna die young and explained exactly what I had. She gave me hope that she’s lasted 6 years so far when the average living span Is 2-3 years.

Does anyone have the same thing and how long have you been beating the odds?

Thank you all

Anna

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jersey-jazz

I was diagnosed with MBC to my liver a year ago. I spent one weekend planning my last things to do because I had read that liver cancer gives the patient six months to a year to live. On the Monday, my then oncologist corrected me. She said that I had Stage 4, metastasized breast cancer to the liver, not liver cancer and that I was going to be living for quite a while. Is this the same as you? If yes, just think of the mbc as similar to having stage one diabetes, also incurable but treatable.

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BluHydrangea in reply to jersey-jazz

Such a good point about MBC in liver is different than Liver Cancer. Thx!

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Annadm in reply to BluHydrangea

True. I’m glad you reminded me. God bless 💕

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Annadm in reply to jersey-jazz

Yes, it’s the same for me. Is there something you have to still do or meds to take after all treatments are over? How do you feel In general? Thanks Jersey 💕

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jersey-jazz in reply to Annadm

Unfortunately, those treatments are never over, according to the oncologist. However, and that is a big however, I went awol from Letrozol for over three weeks and just yesterday, went back to the anti-hormone pill. I had a lot of things to do over the holidays and needed my old self back. The 250mcg dosage causes me to be weak and weary all the time. That is the same dosage that everyone takes. be they at 125 pounds or. 225 points. I am a small person. So, I asked my oncologist if I could take a smaller dose and she denied me. I am much older than you so have less of an inclination to 'behave myself and more of an inclination to do my own thing. I will skip every second or third day of treatment I may live to regret it but I doubt it. I know it is hard for you, maybe because you have a lot of unanswered questions. Please try to get answers even if you have to be a pest about it. Then, relax and enjoy your wonderful life. I am sure you have a lot of things going for you. Please try to find them and revel in them.

p.s. I sure love to give unasked for advice. What say you?

XXX OOO

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viennagirl in reply to jersey-jazz

Hello Jersey-jazz. I am so interested in your reply and response to Annadm. It is sure to give her some confidence and hope. It is good to know that many of us go far past the life expectancy for our mbc.

You might get a kick out of the following. I accidentally, or perhaps subconsciously on purpose forgot to keep taking the Letrozole drug during my 7 day rest phase. I am supposed to take Palbociclib by Ibrance for 21 days but take my Letrozole every day. Then rest for 7 days and begin the 21/7 cycle again. However, for the past 20 cycles I forgot that I was to take the Letrozole every day. I don't know what the consequences are for that lapse in memory but in spite of not following the protocol I am doing very, very well on my drugs. My markers last time I asked were 29 and there is no progression in my bones. So now I think I will keep taking the drugs the same way I have been because it doesn't seem to have hurt me. We must remember that doctors are people too. They do have to follow the science they are given but each one of us is different in body make up. I truly believe that much of the healing is inside of us. I have loved having a rest period for all my drugs so I think I will just continue taking them that way.

You say relax and I totally agree with you. I do think that it is best to relax and ask yourself what else you could be doing to assist yourself in healing. I will be going to my naturopath on the 19th to have a VEGA test. It is to discover foods I am allergic to. That test tests about 80 different foods. I think reducing any foods or supplements that cause inflammation or bad reactions in the body will help me choose supplements and foods that heal.

I do get down but not for long and perhaps my spirits do not give up because of all you wonderful ladies.

We are all in the same boat and we are probably going to play a big role in each others lives by sharing and caring for one another. I have learned so much from you and all the other wonderful ladies who are trying hard to stay well. Love and Hugs and happy New Year. Vienna

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jersey-jazz in reply to viennagirl

You are right about those doctors being just people, like us. I now go to Memorial Sloan Kettering Cancer Center. They have this thing about following the prescribed protocol. I've forgotten what the exact phrase is. They had the same thing at NY Presbyterian. My dear oncologist who I followed from MSKCC to NYPres and who has now retired, prescribed Letrozol and Ibrance last January. I read the side effects for Ibrance and spoke to the agency who was to have delivered the drug. I was told about the outrageous price the company was going to charge my insurance company. It was something like $1700 per month, reduced, for the patient to $2000 or thereabouts. I decided that I would just do Letrozol and see how that went. The doctor reminded me that it was against the protocol. The anti-hormone drug is working fine. The one lesion that I have in my liver has been reduced back down. I do not intend to travel to have a PET scan in February because of covid. After I get my vaccine, I will travel to the hospital and get the dreaded PET scan.That's rather longwinded to make the point that both of us now know. They, the doctors, came up with a prescription and a dosage and they hope for the best. We can rejig it to suit us and hopefully we can get away with it.

I am vey interested in what you learn from the naturopath. Please let me know how it goes. It's another arrow in the sheath.

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Anitafazz

Im also 52 and was diagnosed with stage 4 breast cancer a year ago . The first couple weeks i went thru all the emotions but it gets easier . You will get used to your new norm and adjust to that schedule .

Ones you go back to your life your diagnosis will not be the only thing on your mind . I try not to think about it to much and live my life as normal as possible .

This group will give you hope lots of information and encouragement. Ones you see how many people are living years with stage 4 cancer it will give you hope .

I like to think that we all have to lot of living to do and you will see that things are not as bad a they are in the beginning . Treatments are getting better all the time . I wish you luck with your treatment and hope you feel good .

Anita

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Annadm in reply to Anitafazz

Thanks Anita and God bless you through your journey 💕

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viennagirl in reply to Anitafazz

Thank you Anita. I went through a lot of sadness at first but it is now almost two years since my diagnosis. I feel better every day or on most days. I believe we all have a chance at surviving mbc. I even think we might find a way to heal completely. Every morning I tell my self that I am healing. Hugs Vienna

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BluHydrangea

Hello Annadm— DONT GOOGLE THe SURVIVAL ESTIMATES! I did the same thing a year ago and thought my life was over. I felt like I needed to “get my life in order.” A year later I am in a very different place. Taking my meds, dealing with some side effects, but committed to joy every day. Stage4 today isn’t what it was in the past. There are lots of women participating in this board who have YEARS! It is scary— and a major change for us— but not an immediate death sentence.

It make take you a while to get your head around this diagnosis— and we all work through things differently.

This is a great board.... lots of great info and warm friendly people. This group has given me great hope.... I hope it will for you.

I wish you success with your treatments.❤️

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Annadm in reply to BluHydrangea

Thank you sooooo much for knocking me back to My senses. You’re absolutely right. And you’d think i would know better than not to Google after being told a million times. Your answer helped me immensely 💕

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jersey-jazz in reply to BluHydrangea

I must admit that Google is my go to. If I could find a better source of instant information, I wouldl use it. If you have a suggestion please advise.

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viennagirl in reply to jersey-jazz

Somebody told me that pub-med reports are the most scientific reports and the most reliable but of course, you need a medical degree to read some of them. So if you like google you should continue using it but always keep an open mind. If they suggest that you will not survive mbc just say NO. Keep believing in your own bodies healing potential. I wish you the best for a happy, healthy new year! Vienna

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jersey-jazz in reply to viennagirl

Dear Vienna. Thank you! I've looked at PubMed a few times but I can begin with Google and link to other, more specific web sites. I return your good wishes for 2021 and I wish that you get the vaccine soon so that you can feel safe to hit the streets and taste freedom, again.

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viennagirl in reply to jersey-jazz

Thank you Jersey-Jazz. I did force myself to go for a walk this morning and enjoyed a bit of bird song. Hugs Vienna

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BluHydrangea in reply to jersey-jazz

I love Google too— I try to stay away from estimates about how long I will live, because most are really negative.

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8576

I don't have the same mets but I just posted I am starting my 10th year with MBC.

Cheers, June S.

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Annadm in reply to 8576

Congratulations June! And continued success💕

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jersey-jazz in reply to 8576

We'll done, you! I am sure that you have seen some big rocks in your road but you've got past them.. How are you feeling, now?

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8576 in reply to jersey-jazz

Thanks for asking. I am not so well at the moment. I have, what I think is a strained Gluts muscle. Very painful. Also severe osteoarthritis in my right knee. The knee isn't so bad. Hoping the muscle gets better soon.

Cheers, June S.

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jersey-jazz in reply to 8576

I hope you got that strained gluts muscle doing something you like to do. If it's a good story, please share.

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8576 in reply to jersey-jazz

Ha! I wish that was the case. But it just happened after a Faslodex shot. So I am blaming it on that. I have had it since Dec. 22nd. Going to try and get some massage tomorrow. I have the cat scan tomorrow as well.

Cheers, June S.

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Barb5 in reply to 8576

I had problems with a Faslodex shot pain and swollen for months Dr just kept refusing to order me a scan to see what happened still feeling it but getting better went off Faslodex

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8576 in reply to Barb5

Hi Barb; Just wondering if what you took instead, if anything to replace the Faslodex?

Cheers, June S.

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Barb5 in reply to 8576

I’m on xeloda low dose every other week at first started me on high dose 2 weeks on one off but side effects were awful once he lowered the dose I can handle the side effects and from everything I read especially on here a lower dose works just as well

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TammyCross in reply to 8576

Faslodex injection was probably given incorrectly. I had a bad reaction once, in October, never before in 18 months, and never since in 4 months. I still have a painful lump from October injection. Make sure they give the injection near or in your hip. Otherwise risk of hitting sciatic nerve, and it is more painful, and more likely to miss the muscle. Also, as you will see elsewhere here, warm it up and make sure they take 1-2 minutes.

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8576 in reply to TammyCross

HI Tammy: Thanks for your help. Yes the dose was administered way to fast. I spoke up when she started on the second side, as i could feel it so she slowed it down. Cat scan didn't show anything. She did administer the first dose in under a minute. The second also. Could be something else that has caused this pain. I have a bone scan coming up. Maybe it will show something.

Cheers, June S.

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viennagirl in reply to 8576

My god June. Thank you so much for that information. You are an inspiration and give us all hope for a brighter, happier future. Love and hugs Vienna

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8576 in reply to viennagirl

Thanks for the kind words and the love and hugs. I am sure treatments will improve for us. Take care.

Cheers, June S..

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cpidacks

I was diagnosed with MBC to my liver March of 2019 - inoperable unless the tumor shrinks which it hasn't - but I am stable. I am on Faslodex shots monthly. My alk phos has returned to the normal range and my tumor markers have always been in the normal range. So it has been two years for me, but the doctors have no idea how long I have had this before I was diagnosed. I feel good and I plan to be here for a long time. I am 71 and was first diagnosed with BC in 1991. Good luck Anna and to all of us in this journey.

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Annadm in reply to cpidacks

Thank you so much for the words of encouragement. And no doubt you’ll be around much longer with such a great attitude 💕

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jersey-jazz in reply to cpidacks

God bless!

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MaryCos

Hi Anna! I have bone mets only, so I don't know anything about liver involvement. But, I will say that when I was first diagnosed in July of 2020 (de novo... meaning, my first diagnosis was stage 4), I was convinced I only had 2-3 years to live. As I learned more, I discovered that this is not necessarily the case and some women with MBC live 10, 15, 20 years and more. Needless to say, over the last few months... as I educated myself and joined groups like this one... I am VERY hopeful that I will be around for a while. In fact, I intend to live a long time.

Hang in there. And, breathe. (Keep learning about all this stuff... but breathe!)

Mary

XO

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viennagirl in reply to MaryCos

Thank you Mary. Yes I think your optimism is going to help you heal and recover.

We all have the power to heal ourselves but it is learning how to unlock the power is the big secret. But I do think a positive attitude and love of life is part of the secret.

I am working hard on trying to unlock the healing mechanism in my own body. I would like to eventually say goodbye to drugs. I won't do that until I know more about why I have cancer. But I do know I have certain phobias that I have to overcome.

One of my phobias is going outside into nature. Even though I do go outside I prefer the warmth and security of my house. In the past 20 or so years I have had a reluctance to go outside. I don't know exactly when this began but I know I loved being outside as a young woman. I ran, hiked, canoed, went on picnics etc. But somewhere down the line I grew reluctant to be outside. Maybe it is part of my illness and maybe it is just old age. But I am actually still quite fit even though I have mbc. I just turned 78.

It is a mystery to me as to why I have such an aversion to being out in the weather. But I am going to try to find out why because I watched a You Tube video on Escape to the Country and there was a bit about the healing power of being in the forest. I do go outside but always prefer to be inside, warm and dry even when the weather is nice....?. So I am going to force myself outdoors and try to benefit from nature. Perhaps I am afraid of animals. Maybe a visit to a shrink might help.....heh...heh....

But I think it is important for me and perhaps for all of us to figure out natural ways to heal. I love all you ladies and hope we all have many more years to enjoy our lives. Hugs Vienna.

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MaryCos in reply to viennagirl

Maybe you can start slow, and just sit outside your home without venturing far. Get some fresh air and soak in some sun, if you can.

As for the drugs, I have pushed back on high blood pressure and high cholesterol meds because... 1) I have been misdiagnosed on both, and 2) I am unwilling to accept the additional side effects. I did just apply for a medical cannabis card, though. I consider that nature's medicine, and there are reportedly a TON of ways that this can help me.

Beyond that... I don't think that positivity will cure me, but it certainly helps. Even from a biological standpoint, etc.

xo

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viennagirl in reply to MaryCos

Thank you MaryCos. Yes, I will do just that. I have a new patio and I will put out a lounge chair and wrap up in a blanket and soak up some sun. That and listening to the many birds we have (my husband loves and feed our many birds) might draw me further outside.

It is great that you have requested a Cannabis card. Are you in the US or Canada. I am in Canada and I heard from someone on this site that I could apply for a prescription for cbc. If I can get a prescription I wouldn't have the burden of having to pay for it. I am on pensions so have to watch my budget.

Doctors don't always do a good and honest job so we do have to trust ourselves.

My husband and I have both been disappointed by our doctors recently. My husband also seems to be misdiagnosed with blood pressure medications. He was told his bp was very hight and put on drugs. Now his blood pressure is now so low that he is having dizzy spells. He wants to keep taking his blood pressure drugs for a few more days before telling his doctor. Both of us have a series of doctors who don't seem to be totally competent.

When I was first diagnosed with a breast tumor I had 7 sessions of chemotherapy. It shrunk my tumor so that I could have a lumpectomy. After that my oncologist wanted me to have more chemo and I refused. She told me she wouldn't treat me again if I didn't go for it. I was extremely allergic to the chemo so I just said NO. She must have told my GP that I was difficult because he never offered me any kind of follow up so two years later (even though my surgeon told me that my lump had not spread) I suffered a lot of pain and was then diagnosed with mbc. My doctor should have been sending me for scans. But he just ignored me. I didn't know anyone with mbc so I just didn't request any scans. Some doctors are good though. I have a friend (I didn't know her at the time) who had much the same situation as I did and her doctor sent her for scans every six months and for yearly mammograms.

As a result of my doctor by the time I was diagnosed I was already stage four. Because there are some doctors that are not doing their job I feel we have to really help ourselves. I feel partly to blame but I also know some doctors are not really doing their job. These are only a couple of situations where I have heard about such gross incompetence.

I do have another oncologist now and I like her and so far I trust her. So I am taking my Letrozole and Ibrance. But I really agree with you that we have to take care to help ourselves. Hugs Vienna

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MaryCos in reply to viennagirl

I am a Social Worker, so stuff like phobias/fears (and the psychosocial aspects of illness and loss) are more up my alley than the medical side of all this. Taking baby steps to desensitize yourself may help. For instance, a person who is afraid of heights should start with just standing on a curb, working up to greater heights as tolerated. As for nature, I am someone who is definitely a "forest bather"... but I had a phobia for a while about snakes. They were getting inside my tiny cottage (5 foot black snakes), and, in my mind, I thought I was seeing them everywhere. Even at the grocery store when I saw a black coil on a mid-aisle refrigerator unit and I jumped. It was AWFUL! But, thankfully, I worked past that. Took years... but I can now walk on grass and even in the woods and not think about snakes. (PS: I was always a woodsy kid, and snakes were never a concern for me until they were IN my house after my landlord's shoddy plumbing job.) Let me know how the outside thing works for you. Like you, I spend too much time indoors (and, for me, alone)... but I moved to a new house where I can at least sit outside my entryway with some privacy and peace. Even with the cold weather, it feels good to get a deep, fresh breath of air and appreciate a pretty day.

I am in the US, in the State of Maryland. Medical cannabis is legal here, but insurance doesn't pay for it. As someone who has some pretty significant financial challenges right now, this may end up being a barrier for me... but I am committed on this one! There is (reportedly) evidence that cannabis products can help with everything from speeding cancer cell death to lowering cholesterol. Not to mention helping me with sleep, managing my chronic stress, and pain (I have had chronic pain for 20 years... and it is MAYBE a little worse with the current meds -- but I am used to it).

As for doctors, I love my primary care physician. I have never met her in person, but had a video call (which led to my cancer diagnosis) and a phone call more recently about my lipid test several months back. Thing is, my blood pressure readings were through the roof when I first got the cancer diagnosis. First consult I had with my medical team (when I didn't even know yet that it was stage 4... and they all thought it was minimally stage 2 and, at most, stage 3), I was at 179 systolic. That is when my primary care physician immediately prescribed meds for high blood pressure.

BUT, as my FIRST oncologist started me on chemo... and stuck with this plan even though days before my first infusion a PET scan revealed bone mets (hence, stage 4)... I was getting really low blood pressure readings at home. Since I took the blood pressure meds at night, I was afraid to take these meds before bed. Nurses within my insurance/provider organization told me I made the right call in NOT taking them under these circumstances... and other nurses I know (friends) said the same thing. Needless to say, I track my BP obsessively (and have it all in an Excel spreadsheet)... and every time I go to an oncology (or other health appointment), my BP is initially elevated. I can typically come down 20-30 points, though, once I can relax a little more. (So I ask them to take it again before I leave my appointment. ) I've discovered the same thing at home --- that my emotions and overactive brain drive this up... but I DON'T have high blood pressure. Connected to this, my cholesterol has come back as high... and even went UP in the last 3 months. My primary care doctor wrote me an email last week about my diet. I corrected her. My diet matches what she recommended. My diet is not the issue. But, lack of sleep, chronic stress, and, yes, Letrozole... can result in higher cholesterol. I brought these things to her attention, along with telling her about my plans to start medical cannabis as soon as I can get through the registration process (which can take around 1.5 months). I have been pushing back for a while now with her insistence/strong recommendation that I start taking a statin (especially after I looked up the possible side effects). But I realized just last week that her scoring of my risk of cardiac event over the next 10 years is faulty. (She entered a note on my last lipid test results from 12/23, where I could see what info she inserted in the assessment tool.) Her score result was based on me being ON meds for high blood pressure, which I am not. (I stopped taking these meds, and notified my physician of such, back in August.) Anyway, my risk of cardiac event went down from 10.9% to 3.5%... and it no longer indicates need for meds for cholesterol.

Bottom line is this: My first oncologist would have had me on chemo as a first line of treatment for stage 4 cancer for 5.5 months. Something didn't feel right to me about her and a plan that seemed to change on a dime --- and drastically, at that. I asked for a second opinion, and that is how I ended up with my current oncologist... whom I love and trust with my life. And, now I am on the hormonal treatment that should have been my first line anyway. (I ended up completing only the first, 2 month/4 session chemo course... as I started with my new oncologist right before my 4th/final AC chemo session... and without moving into weekly Taxol for another 10-12 weeks.) Same with the BP and cholesterol meds; I am working to be my own best advocate. I am learning everything I can to make sure that I don't blindly accept medical advice or treatment plans. This is too important, and I don't get any do-overs with my MBC. Had I stuck with my first oncologist, I suspect it may have shortened my already delicate lifespan (due to unnecessary, harsh toxicities). Overall, I am in awe of modern medicine but I am pissed that almost every medication on the market has a long list of terrible potential side effects. And so... bring on the pot. I'll do a mix of THC and CBD products, with something to take for sleep time and something I can take during the day that doesn't make me high (but makes me alert while calm)! Still researching it all, and had a consult with a guy from the local dispensary in town. I'm ready to roll on this one as soon as I get through the registration/certification process.

Cos

xo

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viennagirl in reply to MaryCos

Hi Mary. I forced myself out the door after reading your reply. I bundled up in a big down coat and a wore my woolly ski hat and gloves and made a big effort to walk slowly and listen to the birds and smell the fir trees on our property. It has helped I think I will just have to force myself outside. I walked with my husband and he talks about work stuff so maybe next time I will find a place to sit and absorb some solitude. I love my husband. He is such a great support but he is always working or talking about it so maybe I have to discover a quiet outside place to be with myself. I am grateful though for his continuing support. Sometimes we have to spend time with ourselves - I think - and be alone with nature. I really want to recover my joy of the natural world. I am grateful to you for encouraging me. Your voice will be in my head for a long time. Hugs Vienna

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MaryCos in reply to viennagirl

Aww, Vienna... your response really touched me. The more you can try to look at being outside as a treat and "your time"... the less overwhelming it may feel. Sounds like you are on the right track with your comments about the birds and smell of the trees. Take it all in.

Here anytime you want to chat! Thinking of you, and sending you a big virtual hug.

Cos

❤️

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MaryCos in reply to MaryCos

PS: Good for you for pushing yourself. I promise you it will get easier the more you do it. In the meantime, be gentle with yourself. And, I sure am glad you have your hubby!

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8576 in reply to viennagirl

Jumping in here. You are on the right track. A little at a time in the outdoors. It must be wonderful to have lots of birds coming. I like birds also and I live in Ontario, Canada. Take care,

Cheers, June S.

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diamags

Hi Anna! I'm 7 years in. Keep the faith and be kind to yourself.

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Annadm in reply to diamags

Awesome! I feel better already. Thank you 💕

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beachlover65 in reply to diamags

Hi Diamags, are you 7 years in with mets to the liver? I am 4.5 years in with mets to bone and liver. It's the liver part that concerns me. Please let me know. I am trying to find someone with long term liver mets.

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diamags in reply to beachlover65

No liver, just bones. But keep the faith!

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viennagirl

I think many women with mbc live much longer lives than expected these days because the drugs are better. Hugs Vienna

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Annadm in reply to viennagirl

I hope so.... thank you 💕

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Shelby4now

Anna

You have lots of time. My first diagnosis was 2009. Second bc was in 2015 . I'm now entering my 13 year with mbc.

You take care of yourself and always try to be positive. I do believe it helps

Take care

Be safe

Shelby

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Annadm in reply to Shelby4now

Shelby, you just gave me great hope. Thank you so much 💕

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viennagirl in reply to Shelby4now

Bless you for sharing this Shelby. What a gift you are to all of us! Hugs V.

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beachlover65 in reply to Shelby4now

Wow, Shelby, 13 years! You are inspiring! Where are your mets? I am 4.5 years in with mets to liver and bones and am looking for long time survivors!

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Julie2233

Remember the liver regenerates, if your chemo is effective the liver can heal itself.

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SoulJourney

Anna as you can see everyone has their story and you will write...live yours. We share to give hope.

My story changed when I made the conscious decision that I was living with cancer and not dying from it. I made sure all those close to me changed this reference in their conversation- no more death! It was difficult as one of the doctors (no longer on my team) said I likely had 2 years. June 10, 2016, two years from that date we celebrated my “Dead Date” and I haven’t stopped living!

Truth is no one knows their end. Statistics are helpful but don’t let them be your ceiling.

The struggle is real, really real som days but we cope together.

Hugs 💕Tammie

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Annadm in reply to SoulJourney

Thanks Tammie 💕

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jersey-jazz in reply to SoulJourney

That is a wonderful attitude to take. Several months ago, I decided that I wasn't taking any covid jab because, at that time, I felt that I would rather die from covid than from this cancer. Then, I looked further and around and saw what a wonderful life I lead and realized that I would be a stupid ungrateful fool to give it up, willingly. Now, my aim and goal in life is to die of old age, not cancer.

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viennagirl in reply to SoulJourney

Thank you Tammy. Keep doing what you are doing!

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