and it resonated so strongly with me that I thought it worth sharing. The cancer personality described is me down to an absolute tee and I distinctly remember that feeling of lack of control, inability to change the situation and powerlessness when my father was dying in intensive care two years before my first ever BC diagnosis. I also had other extremely traumatic life events before my second and eventually third (and metastatic) diagnoses. What this does for me is give me pointers on what I need to work on and I am taking this golden opportunity of currently having no measurable disease to do just that by means of yoga, meditation largely. I honestly feel I am making progress, learning to express my own needs; love and look after myself before taking care of others. My internal chemistry is changing and I am calmer, less reactive and less stressed. This approach may not be for everyone but perhaps it may be worth a read? Sending best wishes for a good weekend to everyone. xxx
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Very interesting about the personality traits...it was describing me so well...trying to do everything right putting others first and constantly worrying about things
Barb xx
Hi,
Thanks for sharing this. I will have a proper read later on. I just skimmed it earlier. It would be interesting to know if past traumas could have played a role in developing cancer, but I just don't know. Since my diagnosis I have stepped back a bit and do prioritise my health and wellbeing much more than before.
I can certainly relate to the article. I’ve been responsible for everyone in my family & internalized anger. After getting MBC, I stopped taking care of everyone. I had to focus on me & it was the first time in my 61 years that I truly let others help me. My husband has been an incredible helper to me.
Thank you for sharing it LouisaMay!
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Interesting article, I certainly found myself identified within a few of the descriptions. 5 years before my diagnosis I lost someone out of the blue, complete shock and it hit me in waves during the following years. I did internalise a lot of it, felt tremendous guilt and never really spoke about how I felt.
Hmmmm....very interesting. I'm certainly open to any hypotheses and really do believe that almost anything is "possible". So I won't log it as "rubbish"...I see some correlations there.
I'll note that I do get the sense that this disease is very, very individualized. Which is why the broad-brush responses, based on very gross averages, make me a bit nuts. Like, clearly genetics plays a huge role...BRCA genes, e.g.. And the environment plays a big role, too, I'm sure. But I do agree that stress and trauma do greatly compromise our bodies' ability to fight things off.
At the same time, I sort of flinched at the descriptions, e.g. cervical cancer from "extreme frustration"...more likely HPV? Uterine cancer due to sexual conflict? I did get a whiff of what they used to call "hysteria"...
But, truly, thank you for sharing. Thought provoking, which is always good.
Fasinating! Eye opening! I have always felt that oncs don't address our emotional and psychological issues.
These issues should be an important part of " cancer treatment." And each cancer center should have a protocol to tackle these areas!
I am also a care taking personality, and have had major trauma in my life. My daughter was the victim of a witnessed stranger abduction at the age of 9 and was never found. It has been 31 years. The case has stayed alive and within the last ten years has become a big public to do several times. I have a very hard time dealing with it. The emotions are so huge my only recourse most of the time has been distract and deny.
I have no genetic predisposition to breast cancer. For some reason, I thought that doing extended breastfeeding of five kids would make me immune. But here we are. And after raising my children, I am now helping with my grandchildren, just a professional mother figure.
I haven’t read the whole article, because the print is small on my phone. But are there applications to treatment here?
Oh Sharon, my heart goes out to you. No one should have to suffer as you have and do. I am so sorry. You ask about applications to treatment. Well I am in no way qualified to advise you or anybody but I believe there are applications to treatment here. Not the standard of care, I don't think that your oncologist will help with this (I would be happy to be proved wrong though). I can give a few suggestions or pointers. If you have access to Netflix, watch 'Heal'. Read Radical Remission by Kelly Turner. Have a look at 'Biology of Belief' (Youtube, Bruce Lipton)and/or the work of Dr Joe Dispenza who has many testimonials on Youtube. I sincerely believe that beyond the care the hospital gives us, we can learn to truly love ourselves and to alter the natural tendency in all of us to replay negative past events in our heads, thus keeping ourselves firmly rooted in the past.The science of epigenetics suggests that beyond genetic predisposition, we may be altering the signals of genes by switching them on or off depending on our body chemistry which in turn depends on our thoughts and state of mind. Did you know, for example, that cortisol (produced by the body when we are in a state of stress) is routinely given to transplant patients before surgery. This is because cortisol switches off the immune system. Thus, the new organ will not be immediately rejected by the body. But the possible application in other areas seems to go largely unconsidered. The last thing we cancer sufferers need is for out immune system to be switched off (which may be the case for up to 70% of the time!) Therefore we need to look within and find ways to become more relaxed, whether on our own or with professional help (Reiki, energy work, massage,reflexology, yoga, mediation? whatever resonates with each of us). By the way, there is a short video elsewhere on the site of the link I posted, in which a young woman claims to be cured of here stage 4 BC by this and other means. I think most of us would agree that 'cured'is a difficult word around stage 4 cancer but if she has achieved remission in my opinion she is worth a look and listen. Sending virtual hugs. xxx
Thank you so much for the suggestions! I will look into all of them! There have been times in recent years when I have had overt passive suicidal ideation, meaning I wasn’t going to kill myself but I didn’t particularly want to be here. This tumor I have now grew during that time. I moved halfway across the country in January and felt peace and joy I haven’t had in a long time. That is when I finally received a diagnosis of this as MBC, after my doctors in California had failed to diagnose for a year and a half. I know I have a lot of inner work to do.
Sharon, I am so glad you finally found some peace and joy, at least before you received your diagnosis! I had not heard of passive suicidal ideation before you mentioned it but interestingly, I distinctly remember that in the moments following my diagnosis, amongst the shock, horror, grief, fear etc, I felt a clear sense of relief that I would no longer have to witness the appalling environmental degradation of our beautiful planet home - so much has been destroyed just within my lifetime. I have tried to transform that feeling into positive action and I am now a contributing member of Treesisters who have planted over 11,000,000 trees in degraded tropical parts of the globe. You keep on truckin' girl, you will find your peace and joy again! xxx
I have found our conversation to be extremely helpful and inspiring. I’ve watched Heal, have ordered the books, printed the article, which I am only halfway through reading. But it resonates so strongly with me. I can see so so much work I need to do. And while it may or may not cure my cancer, it will make whatever time I have happier and more meaningful. When I went through treatment for stage 3, the words “I don’t want to die a caterpillar” kept haunting me. I’ve made peace with a lot of things, and a lot of my expectations for myself have changed. I came to understand my life as not all about me, but part of the greater whole. But still so much work to do.
Thank you, and I hope you have a beautiful journey.
Incidentally, I have a daughter who was born five years after my daughter was kidnapped. She was obviously impacted by my older daughter’s kidnapping. I have thought maybe she was Michaela reincarnated, but one of her therapists actually suggested epigenetics.
Sharon
Interesting read, but looking at the life events he “says” could cause cancer, I find the majority of them have occurred to most of us. This is similar to reading your horoscope at the end of the day, it’s easy to associate things with what your horoscope predicted.
Coincidence if anything.
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But all of us here do have cancer. Not all people actually experience these events, and of those that do, not all internalize them in the same way.
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