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I’m curious, I have a small spot inside my prostate and had a needle biopsy. They took 17 cores! Poked 17 holes in my prostate for a tiny spot. Does this seem like overkill to you guys??? It does to me. By the way, I was in extreme pain after for a few days. Thanks you guys and god bless! 🙏

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pd63 profile image
pd63

Why would you be OK with only one core?

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Androgel123 in reply topd63

Ha ha you’re confused. Never said that . I just wanted them to biopsy the cancer spot to see what grade it was. And that’s what they said they were going to do,… NOT poke 17 holes all over my prostate. Uncalled for I say. Bet they get paid for each biopsy. It’s a wonder my prostate survived that but I’m ok. I don’t take Androgel! That the tag this site gave me..😏

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pd63 in reply toAndrogel123

Missing the point, it's treatment yhat's needed

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Androgel123 in reply topd63

Missing what point?

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pd63 in reply toAndrogel123

Crippling metastases

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Androgel123 in reply topd63

Yeah if it were to do that. I been smoking for 50 years so I’ll probably die of a heart attack first.

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lpol83712

No each biopsy represents only 1/10000 of prostate. There is certainly argument over whether we can rely on just MRI fusion ultrasound biopsy or need both MRI fusion and additional random biopsies. You can find experts on both sides of arguments

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pd63

I've just read your biopsy, gleason 4+3 and waiting for growth starting to grow outside the capsule.Your decision but goes against all recommended treatment.

Your choice but ostrich minded

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Androgel123 in reply topd63

Call it what you want. They wanted me to get treatment or take it out 3 years ago . Now if I had listened to them I’d be sitting here with leaking urine and not being able to make love to my wife….. well here it is 3 years later and my cancer hasn’t grown ANY! Dude,…, I’m shooting for Quality of life not to live to be 90 yrs old with bad health probably layed up in a rest home. Seems like misery loves company but I refuse to let this get me down and depressed.I’ve had a horrible life of 59 years and met my wife 3 1/2 years ago and for the first time in my life I’m loved and happy. I already have health issues that take away from my quality of life , so put that with all the mess of treatment or removal and my quality of life would be terrible.With all things considered , this is the best choice for ME. Plus, unlike you,… I don’t trust the doctors or our health care system. It’s all geared to make money 💵. I’ve learned this from experience. When my cancer presents a problem I’ll do something about it but not because I was scared into it .

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leach234 in reply toAndrogel123

I was a Gleason 8. Did my research and found a world class surgeon with over 2,000 surgeries under his belt. Surgery in 2018 at age 59. No incontinence and I can still make love to my wife. PSA remains <0.02. Quality of health and quality of life. You’re choice but I think you’re playing with fire.

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Androgel123 in reply toleach234

My insurance doesn’t allow me to choose a surgeon in another area and funds are limited.

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leach234 in reply toAndrogel123

Once it’s metastasized you’ll be on hormones for the rest of your life and you’ll never make love to your wife again. Just saying.

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Androgel123 in reply toleach234

Yeah, IF it metastasizes .

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Tall_Allen

Please read this:

prostatecancer.news/2024/12...

Once the cancer gets out of the prostate, you are incurable.

They have to take at least 4 cores from mpMRI-identified areas of suspicion, and at least 2 cores from all other areas.

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Androgel123 in reply toTall_Allen

I’m not worried about it getting out of my prostate It’s contained within my prostate and not growing. I’m not going to let this get me down! We’re ALL going to die one day …. From one thing or another. And,… doctors have told me it could sit there and do nothing. And or it could spread. MRI every year is what I’m going to do. I also have bph which I started taking saw palmetto and pumpkin seed oil extract which works very well. Now it’s easy to pee and empty my bladder all the way. Ty

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zbobjacobs in reply toTall_Allen

where did you get that from, incurable I don’t think so.

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Tall_Allen in reply tozbobjacobs

That is the natural history of prostate cancer. It may be curable if only pelvic lymph nodes are affected.

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leach234

how did you know you only had 1 small spot inside your prostate to start with?

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Androgel123 in reply toleach234

MRI

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CrackerOcala

better to err on the side of caution. As for after-pain. I think that’s pretty normal. Consider that you were blessed in not acquiring an infection, one even leading to hospitalization. Not uncommon for biopsy.

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Androgel123 in reply toCrackerOcala

Wow I feel lucky 🍀 ty

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NanoMRI

My 'just' 3+3 was upgraded to 3+4 on second and third opinions then 4+3 on RP pathology. Turned out mine not only was out of the prostate bed made it all the way to para-aortic lymph nodes. IMhumbleO based on my "was supposed to be easy" experience, really challenging (impossible) to know for sure where it all is; making precise 'watching' challenging (impossible). All the best!

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Androgel123 in reply toNanoMRI

Thank you. I’m going to enjoy my life and hope for the best . My uncle is 80 something years old and man is he miserable.

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Mgtd

I am 79 with 4+3 prostrate cancer. I had 6 months of ADT plus radiation to prostrate and pelvic area. You have INTERMEDIATE UNFAVORABLE cancer. This requires action.

Your choice either treatment or it will spread. Just that simple!

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Androgel123 in reply toMgtd

Oh bull crap. Am I going to listen to YOU or my doctors??? When they say it could sit there and do nothing then that’s what it means to ME. I have a chance, some hope and god is on my side. You’re 79 and worried about prostate cancer?? Man how long do you think you’re going to live? If you haven’t, you need to get right with god because we don’t live much past 80 or so if we are lucky. Your negativity is unwelcome here. You give me 2 choices, treat it or it’s gonna spread. 😡 That’s not what the doctors said. They said it COULD spread but it ALSO could just sit there and do nothing. I know misery loves company but don’t try to drag me down with ya.

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Androgel123 in reply toMgtd

You were misinformed my friend. You didn’t have to do anything. You could be sitting here today just like me with your 4+3 doing nothing.

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cscmetsfacil

Why "Androgel"? Are you using something to stimulate testosterone? Just curious. That would be a bad idea with PCa. Sounds like you need to learn a lot more about PCa. There are many treatments that could help you have a long and wonderful life. Two good sources of information and support: Join a Prostate Cancer support group - there are some good ones on line. Check out resources through well qualified resources such as treatment centers of excellence, including the Prostate Cancer Research Institute (PCRI) which has a help line, and a great online "staging guide" that will help you understand the ups and downs of various treatment options. Be proactive and know that you are not alone.

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Androgel123 in reply tocscmetsfacil

Lol, I thought this WAS a support group.

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Chasbearcat999

They took 15 cores from me. the usual 12 and 3 from the identified (mri) 7mm lesion.

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Derf4223

17 sounds like a lot, but biopsy needles take samples about 1.2 mm in diameter. If your prostate is say 15 mm across it has a cross section area of about 180 mm2. 17 cores can miss a lot.

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Garp41

What insurance do you have/ There are a lot of relatively non-invasive procures which might be covered

Laser, NanoKnife, Tulsa, Cyberknife

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