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Hi, I was first diagnosed with PMR on February 2022, I started on 15mg Pred but had to increase to 20mg, I have gradually reduced to 3.5mg but can’t seem to get lower than that dose without having a flare, I have terrible fatigue, I sit down and just fall asleep any time of day, my worry is that I got in a Jury Citation for April, I don’t know if I would be able to carry this out,I don’t know if having PMR would allow me to be excused, just wondering if anyone else has been in this position

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DorsetLady profile image
DorsetLadyPMRGCAuk volunteer

There are a few related posts.

This is what you need to look at, and you’ll probably require a note from GP/Rheumy explaining the difficulties with PMR.

So maybe try ringing number in attached and get advice -

gov.uk/jury-service/delayin...

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Tilian in reply toDorsetLady

Thanks for your help

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PMRproAmbassador

There have been similar cases in the past who were excused. Pred affects your capacity to make judgements and the low dose combined with adrenal insufficiency secondary to longterm corticosteroids means you are unable to concentrate for long periods. That should be enough ...

The letter will have a contact number does it?

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Tilian in reply toPMRpro

Thanks very much, I’ll try that as I really don’t think I would be up to it

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Tilian in reply toPMRpro

Yes there is a contact number

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Shiv14 in reply toPMRpro

Oooh, I didn’t know I had an impaired judgment card in my pocket. I can see myself holding that up for a whole range of excuses🤣🤣🤣🤣

Highlandtiger profile image
Highlandtiger

Sophiestree managed to get excused from jury service fairly recently. I’m sure she’ll be happy to help you.

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Tilian in reply toHighlandtiger

Thankyou

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winfong

I got excused (in the US though). What's funny about it is that I, being a big true crime fan, would have loved to have been on a jury. I sat around all morning waiting to be called, but could no longer stand the not very comfortable seats they had out. I finally had to turn in my excuse before lunch. They didn't seem to have any problems with it.

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Tilian in reply towinfong

Thanks for your help

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HeronNS in reply towinfong

I never even showed up. Submitted my reasons for not being a suitable juror in writing ahead of time. I guess I was supposed to show up anyway, but got a letter later confirming that I'd been excused. In earlier times would have been quite excited to be able to serve on a jury so missed my chance!

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sidra1968 in reply towinfong

I am also a big true crime fan. And the seats are exactly why I will be worried if I am summoned. Even an hour of sitting in a different chair can really mess me up, and possibly set a flare off for me. Did you get doc's note?

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winfong in reply tosidra1968

I have trouble at our dinner table. If it's not my big comfy armchair, or a couch, or bed, I don't last long.

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sidra1968 in reply towinfong

Yep, had to sit for 1.5 hours in an auto mechanic waiting room today..and the rest of this day/evening I have been hurting more for sure. Doesn't take much..

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yogabonnie in reply towinfong

sorry you missed out..being a crime buff. I am too but I did serve (before PMR) and got on a MURDER TRIAL!!! I am sorry for the murder but I loved being on the Jury. what an experience. Heather Horst in St. Paul, MN!! GUILTY.

piglette profile image
piglette

there is no way I could do jury duty when the deathly fatigue took over!!

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Tilian in reply topiglette

Thankyou

HeronNS profile image
HeronNS

I got called up just after I'd started pred. All I needed was a doctor's note backing up my statement that my pred dose would make me unable to perform properly, nor have the stamina to be reliably awake for the proceedings - I forget how we worded it. I was excused, and have since learned that if you're excused once for health reasons you'll never be called on again. (Nova Scotia)

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Tilian in reply toHeronNS

Thank you

Nightingales profile image
Nightingales

I am in the UK and I can’t remember if I did an email or online form but I was excused with no problems. I described the symptoms of PMR, fatigue, inability to sit for long periods, intermittent pain etc. stating it was an autoimmune disease. I had a letter from my GP but I didn’t need it. They replied that I was permanently excused and wished me well!

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Tilian in reply toNightingales

Thankyou

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Hunter134

I was once picked for jury duty before pmr.I sent a letter stating I would be too nervous to make a proper judgment.I didn't have to go.

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Tilian in reply toHunter134

Thankyou

Hacey profile image
Hacey

Hello Tillian,

I was due to do jury service on Jan 2 this year, but I emailed them back in December to say I did not think I was well enough to sit for a long period in the court. I did not feel I would be able to concentrate on the proceedings, and as I was suffering from fatigue and not sleeping well it would not be fair on anyone. I was excused without a problem.

I don’t think they want anyone who might be a problem in any way.

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Tilian in reply toHacey

Thankyou

PMRpro profile image
PMRproAmbassador in reply toHacey

Especially if you realised in the middle you could cope any more - new jury and retrial rears its head ...

Tilian profile image
Tilian in reply toPMRpro

That would stress me out 🤣

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Hacey in reply toPMRpro

Exactly! They don’t want anyone who might cause problems.

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Joneskye

I have been excused twice now , I just submitted a letter from my GP . I think I did it online using there form .

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Tilian in reply toJoneskye

Thankyou

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Ozziedays

I was cited last April for the High Court in Scotland. At that time, I’d been off prednisolone for 5 months but still taking methotrexate. I had no PMR symptoms but I was still suffering from tiredness and doubted very much that I could concentrate and give due attention in a court setting for hours on end. My GP provided me with a medical excusal on request.

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Tilian in reply toOzziedays

Thankyou

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Tilian in reply toTilian

Thankyou

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Sophiestree

As Highlandtiger says, I was excused Jury service. I filled in the form explaining that I would have been more than happy to attend but due to my diagnosis and medication I would need regular rest periods and would not be able to travel via public transport. I also offered to get a letter from my GP or Consultant but didn't need that.

I filled it in online and received notification I was excused by letter.

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Tilian in reply toSophiestree

Thankyou

S4ndy profile image
S4ndy

Having worked in the legal profession and sat through many Court hearings in my youth it is my opinion that, in my current state of health, I would make a terrible Juror. Sophiestree's advice to write and explain your health limitations is definitely the way to go. I would be dozing off, mishearing things, forgetting things, fidgeting, coughing, running to the loo and losing focus. Nobody would want to be judged by a Juror like me😂

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Tilian in reply toS4ndy

That sounds exactly like me 🤣

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Harrywogan

Tillian,so funny just got my citation in this morning and as IAM over 71 I can get out of going, I know how you feel about falling asleep IAM just the same.

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Tilian in reply toHarrywogan

Thankyou

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PamJCam

I had the same thing happen last year and you can write/email the court and explain your circumstances with PMR…. they were ok with it and I was relieved of duty but they said if my medical circumstances change to let them know immediately….they obviously don’t know much about PMR!😁

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Tilian in reply toPamJCam

Thankyou

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AtopicGuy

Write back and tell them of your ailment, medication, and fear that you might fall asleep and therefore jeopardise the trial. Give them the contact details for your GP and say you are happy for them to be contacted to corroborate what you have said. That should save the hassle of getting a doctor's note in advance. It worked for me.

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Summerrental

I received an exemption due to PMR & back issues, I am in the U.S

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