GCA, varicella zoster and PMR?: I found the... - PMRGCAuk

PMRGCAuk

20,320 members38,060 posts

GCA, varicella zoster and PMR?

papadapadoo profile image
6 Replies

I found the referenced paper (provenance unclear) fascinating. Does anyone know of the use of acyclovir to treat GCA or PMR? I couldn't find anything in the search tool. I know there is speculation about a virus as the cause of these related diseases, but I didn't think a virus had been identified. This is somewhat speculative, but there is a case study.

oatext.com/pdf/CMR-2-115.pdf

Written by
papadapadoo profile image
papadapadoo
To view profiles and participate in discussions please or .
Read more about...
6 Replies
PMRpro profile image
PMRproAmbassador

There is another study from some time ago - I assume the one mentioned - that found v zoster in temporal artery biopsies and postulated it was what cause GCA, However, the likelihood of finding v zoster in patients with GCA is pretty high - the vast majority of us have had chicken pox as children. And the study did have flaws.

I find the paper rather curious - I'm rather horrified that they thought it was acceptable to keep a patient with a high index of suspicion for GCA on such a low dose of pred and a totally unproven concept. I wonder what the ethical committee would have said if asked!!!

Neither am I impressed by the inability to get the name of the disorder correct: artritis should be arteritis. I smell a rat - the "journal" is open access - anyone could write anything one suspects.

papadapadoo profile image
papadapadoo in reply to PMRpro

There are a few other oddities in the article, though OAT is generally trustworthy, as far as I have read. What interests me is not the cause of PMR/GCA, but rather the possibility of alternate therapies. In 2004, when I was languishing in Mass General with no diagnosis to explain a growing inflammation in my brain stem, one of the therapies tried was acyclovir, and I remember it being explained as an anti-viral "shotgun." In fact, there are many kinds of herpes. Unfortunately, if acyclovir were actually a viable treatment for PMR we'd know a lot more about it. (It didn't cure me, either.) So we beat on, boats against the current ....

DorsetLady profile image
DorsetLadyPMRGCAuk volunteer

This seems to disagree, and from a more reliable source -

jrheum.org/content/early/20...

YogaJM profile image
YogaJM

Very interesting as I have been on acyclovir for some years at a low dose. First time I've heard of a possible association with PMR & GCA.

2013mayo profile image
2013mayo

I’m convinced my GCA was something to do with the fact I kept getting eye shingles.

PMRpro profile image
PMRproAmbassador in reply to 2013mayo

It will certainly have messed up the immune system!

You may also like...

Is varicella zoster (herpes zoster, shingles?) perhaps a partial cause of some PMR, GCA? Does it fit for you?

https://www.oatext.com/pdf/CMR-2-115.pdf This fits for me. I'm not sure if it's been on here before...

Virus Infections GCA/PMR

up of feeling ill, not so much from GCA/PMR but from the virus I keep picking up :( Thank you in...

SWEATING PMR/GCA AND TAPERING

to 12.5mg from a high Pred dose for GCA a year ago - yes I know (I was wishful thinking) TOO fast...

Catheter with PMR/GCA

be caused by steroids? Diagnosed with PMR Nov 2017 then GCA Feb 2018 when upped to 60mg Pred along...

PMR - increased risk of GCA

worried about the PMR being a problem, as it is controlled by pred, but if I were to get GCA while...