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Thank you to everyone that answered my first time ever on here. I really appreciate it. If I didn't respond to anyone it is because I couldn't find what to do.

I watched ' The Truth about Carbs' last evening, it had been on Wednesdy. Looks like a diet of, Broccoli and apples for me 😳 Scrummy !!!!!! Am I the only one on here that didn't know that everything has carbs in it ???? Please say I'm not 🙀

Love to you all, hope it's a good day for everyone , Carolyn X (Stinngy Nettles)

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Caroiyn - great you watched the carbs programme. It was excellent, educational and well researched, and, did not 'talk down' to the audience. I think that most people haven't got a clue as to the carbs, in fact, hardly anyone I know even know that bread turns to sugar in the digestive tract, beginning with the impact of saliva and chewing ! So don't feel out on a limb here. Instead, with all your new found knowledge, you can spread the word on carbs. It is a fascinating subject. Go well -

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DorsetLadyPMRGCAuk volunteer

We do talk a lot about carbs on here, but that because the effect Pred can have on our bodies. But it’s the refined carbs that mostly do the damage - sugar etc.

If you can stick to a varied diet using mainly fresh unprocessed food (not always easy) and cut down on the nice but naughty foods - having them only occasionally as a treat then you’ll be okay.

Life’s too short (and too boring) to be a goody two shoes every day!

Take care!

I don't think you will be alone in that. You have to at least eat things you like some of the time or you will be in trouble. Recently we have discussed how rewarming carbs like pasta can make them less carby. I know new potatoes are better than mature ones. Even better if you leave them to cool then re-cook in things like bubble and squeak. I couldn't live forever carb free but if I do an 8 week stint that might be achievable. Even if you started with leaving sugar out it might help. You will find that the lower the carbs go the better you feel as you won't have the spikes in your blood.

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Ruadh in reply to

I don't think one has to be a 'goody two shoes' <smile> One just needs to know more about carbs and to be careful. Just as the BBC programme pointed out - taking on board the appalling rates of obesity that is so prevalent. It was a good educational programme and one that is necessary - does not mean that one 'never' eats a carb from here on in !

Obesity is even obvious now here in France as packaged foods burgeon the supermarket shelves. Sad.

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Nor do you have to be carb-free necessarily. You just have to reduce the amount of carbs you eat to the level where you achieve the desired effect, whether it is weight maintenance or weight loss. Some people lose once they are down to (say) 100g useable carb per day and when you plan the meals right that is a fair bit. Or like me they have to be really low. You have to experiment and find out for yourself and become aware of what is good and what isn't.

Even when I'm trying to lose some weight I don't deprive myself. If I want an icecream, I have it. But it isn't every day and it is a single scoop. And I still have a glass or two of wine...

As Ruadh says - the obesity problem is growing. While where I live in northern Italy there are very few obese children at school, when you go further south most children are at least overweight and about half are obese - and as in France, all you have to do is go into one of the small supermarkets that are the norm and look at the shelves to see why. Packaged sweet junk...

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Ruadh in reply toPMRpro

Thank you PRMpro. I managed to catch up with Carolyn's original post, read through the responses various, excellent input. One is put in mind of observances that the UK diet during the war years (WWII) was so much better than the nowadays diet. We grew our own, raised our own chucks, had a couple of fruit trees. I disliked the dried egg and detested cod's rowe ! I remember it taking me 'forever' to eat cream, my total dislike of butter and that bananas made me feel sick - therein lies a tale ! We always had a good C'mas, pressies were small, but gratefully received. This in spite of seeing dog fights overhead and being in the midst of the outer London bombing. However I digress...

It is interesting how the world seems to benn turned upside down. But was delighted to learn of Prof Noakes' vindication of his very small comment on 'carbs v. fats' : Noakes, a cause celebre trial in Sth Africa, brought in 13 to 0 for Noakes. Not sure if permitted to post links, but this is not selling nor anything nefarious : nutritioncoalition.us/news/...

In the middle of all this my laptop seems to have thrown a total wobbly. But do have this ancient standby - with which I have an affinity ! Thanks all - take care, go well -

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PMRproAmbassador in reply toRuadh

Hallelujah - the last I heard was shortly before the verdict was to be given. I post links all the time - don't sell things though!

It does irritate me when people tell me that there is so much evidence FOR the low fat lie. It was all based on flawed research and Big Food (as opposed to Big Pharma) latching on to how to make a fast buck. So many scientists trying to present the other side were squeezed out and lost their funding because of their bully boy tactics.

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DorsetLadyPMRGCAuk volunteer in reply toRuadh

Plus we invariably walked to school (part way if not all), had some form physical fitness lesson most days, played outdoors. What we ate we burned off - no fast foods, no sitting in front of tablets, iPhones, PlayStations etc where the only things being exercised are fingers and thumbs!

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Ruadh in reply toDorsetLady

Ah yes, the 'walk to school'. Mine was a mile. Myself and younger sister would walk to school Horrid in winter, as only knee socks then, and burnt with the cold; raw, sore knees. But the walk was quite pleasant. Then home, and the smell of damp coats out to dry off and air in front of the kitchen fire. We had books and cards, and various board games, plus what we invented - sliding down the stairs on the Indian tea tray...! Climbing into the loft to scare ourselves silly with made up ghost stories. We did have a ghost in the house. Was a nice one. OK. Apologies for the huge digression.

Summat totally other. What does one do if allergic, a 'responder', to all the cortisone medications ? What else is available in the armature - if anything, that is !

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DorsetLadyPMRGCAuk volunteer in reply toRuadh

“Summat totally other” - sorry no idea, 🤷🏻‍♀️ have to wait for medically trained person to advice. On here I mean, not in the general world! 😳😉

PMRpro profile image
PMRproAmbassador in reply toRuadh

What do you mean by that?

I had awful experiences with methyl prednisolone - prednisolone and prednisone have been fine.

I quite like digressions...

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People who were at that meeting and had Type 1 & 2 were dumbfounded as they had not been told all of it, although they attended clinics etc.

Three of them immediately changed and lost weight and felt fine. Others have followed, not with Type 1 or 2 and yes it works.

I just changed, years ago a big dinner plate for a smaller one (what we called Ham size) and lost wieght. The eye deceives you into thinking you have eaten a whole lot more and really all you have done is put less on the plate but it looks full.

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