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Thank you for sharing this. I find videos a bit hard to take but have watched several parts of it and will go back to the more technical stuff. I got grumpy when he started to talk about vegan diets but it shows how comprehensive it is.

Seems really good and is a great subject: I will watch it again!

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Technoid in reply todeniseinmilden

"I got grumpy when he started to talk about vegan diets"

why so ?

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purpleabc in reply toTechnoid

Oh so sad !!!!! My favourite foods but I have so many allergies a lot are out of the window. Allergic to soy (oh a bad one because it is in everything just under a different name , and leeches into meat but strangely not eggs thank god.) ALSO CHOCOLATE, soya lecithin. This also seems to mean I can't eat legumes, bad reaction. I have oral allergy syndrome so lots of fruit and veg there. Can't eat cruciferous veg or legumes. The other allergies are skin related or smells which set me off choking. There are some fruits I can eat and tomatoes, avocados , bananas, oranges, grapes, strawberries, mango, dates some cheese and eggs. Disgustingly if things are processed into something not healthy then I can eat them, eg ham.sad eh. I make my own bread. I do my best . My B12 injection is the healthiest thing I do !!I take vit C and D and folic acid. I am a sort of vegetarian who would love to be a fully fledged one, oh I miss hummus and falafel....................

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deniseinmilden in reply toTechnoid

As we know from being here, true vegan diets are unsustainable and cause lots of less aware people a lot of health issues.

People with B12d due to unavoidable health problems, rather than poor lifestyle choices, tend to get treated less well and like they've chosen to be B12 deficient by many medics who don't differentiate.

And that's without getting started on the extremists and activists who would prevent animals being kept...

It's all too much in conspiracy theory territory and not based on factual science enough for me to be settled with it.

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Technoid in reply todeniseinmilden

I'm not sure what you mean by "true vegan diets" but if you mean by that a vegan diet that doesn't include adequate B12 from supplementation/fortified foods, I don't think anyone knowledgeable about health and nutrition would promote that.

But this seems to be a "no true scotsman" fallacy as far as I can see. The channel posted has some excellent coverage of B12 supplementation and is very clear about the necessity for it in vegan diets and what are the adequate frequencies/dosages.

Since I supplement B12, am I therefore not following a "true vegan diet"? That seems a bit ridiculous to me.

With regard to developing a B12 deficiency from autoimmune or other health conditions versus developing one as a result of a dietary deficiency, I don't see why the deficiency which occurs as a result should be taken less seriously. In my experience and from reading posts here, most GP's don't take B12 deficiency seriously, regardless of how it might have developed.

Testing for adequate B12 or for B12 deficiency is fraught with difficulty as we know well and since B12 absorption is very complex, the adequate amounts and frequencies of supplementation are by no means intuitive - the types of quality information on B12 supplementation that are available today were not present 15-25 years ago even in books from registered dieticians, and I know that because I own and read said books, at the time I became vegan.

No one intentionally develops a B12 deficiency but there is conflicting information out there and depending on what sources of information people are exposed to they may make a poor choice in their supplementation which gets them into trouble. Should their deficiency and neurological issues be taken "less seriously" because they failed to navigate the complexity of a topic which most medical professionals also have not the faintest clue about?

People adopt all kinds of poorly planned diets and then suffer the resultant health consequences. Vegan diets are no different.

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deniseinmilden in reply toTechnoid

Thank you very much for your kind, careful and balanced reply - you have single-handedly increased my faith in people.I know, as friends, a couple of vegans and I have full respect for who they are, what they do and their lifestyle choices, as they are informed about what they do.

I have also been subjected to uncalled for abuse from several others, just because I keep animals so I am now initially defencive. "Once bitten, twice shy".

Thank you again!

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ACritical

Citrus!!! and vegetables especially kale, cabbage, onions ( love them but pay for it when consumed. Red meat fine. ( bloodgroup O??)

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Wwwdot

thanks Techno

Defo a quart in a pint pot. Have watched multiple times. Thank you.

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