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please an advise. Are subcutaneous injections as effective as intra muscular.

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wedgewood profile image
wedgewood

Definitely yes . I’ve injected I.M for 9 years . Several months ago ( more than 6) I decided to try Sub -Cut. It really works as well as I.M . for me anyhow .

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Sissiotto in reply towedgewood

Thanks a lot

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Sissiotto in reply towedgewood

thanks a lot

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Wheat

Yes is my answer.

I had loading doses and a couple of maintenance doses I.M. , I experienced a brief trickle of energy and I produced a lot more urine every time i.e. urinated most away.

Subcutaneous injections s.i. suit me much better, they are effective and as have a slower release, running to the loo is not an issue from the injections.

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Nackapan

I have both.Both effective

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Dragonfly1962

I have IM at gp surgery and SI at home SC. I don’t get the initial’hit ’ with SC but it definitely works.

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Narwhal10

Hi Sissiotto,

I am a qualified health professional who gave medication via all sorts of routes.

I subcutaneously inject. It is minimally less effective. I choose this method for ease of administration, it’s less painful (B12 has a bit of a sting) and I do carry a B12 kit in my bag. It’s a just in case.

I remember working one shift and one poor patient was in severe pain but had difficulty swallowing. Taking my time with them, I held their hand, looked them in the eyes and said, I cannot leave you like this. They agreed to have medication PR. I lived with a couple of French health professionals, they give lots of drugs via this route.

Often on this website, sublingual (under the tongue) B12 is discussed. Medication is absorbed through mucous membranes. PR is the same principle, it is via the rectum.

My personal favourite route is intrathecal, only because the anaesthetist would be involved. They are pretty clever people but one particularly stood out nicknamed Silver Fox. Always calm, their dry sense of humour was lost on most.

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Sissiotto in reply toNarwhal10

Thanks so much for your advice. Very informative and helpful 😊

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Narwhal10 in reply toSissiotto

My pleasure.

P.A/B12 D was not on our syllabus in our training. I was heart broken to learn of it. However, I am trying to rectify that.

Right I’m off to inject. 😊

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Noelnoel in reply toNarwhal10

Out of interest, what is it you do in the healthcare field?

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Narwhal10 in reply toNoelnoel

🤣😂 Jiggerypokery.

I am now non-clinical. So, all health professionals have clinical skills in their own field, we attend multidisciplinary meetings, we safeguard, we mentor, we educate, we research, we prove we are worthy of our role by our behaviour and attitude. We may work in hospitals, we may work in clinics or provide care at someone’s home known as the community. We continue our education in areas that we find interesting; gaining more qualifications. So, become specialists in certain areas. We audit and interact with each other, seeking advice, counsel and refer to other experts.

So, today, I had a meeting, on my walk home, I saw an elderly person with a walking stick; I wanted to ensure that they arrived at their destination safely. Their mobility was poor and slow. They were concerned that they were 20 minutes late. I reassured them. I bid them goodbye.

I purchased an umbrella, as I have lost mine. The person ahead of me, I noticed how breathless they were and asked if they were okay. Then just before I arrived home, I gave the boss of a construction site, some biscuits and Welsh cakes to share with their crew. The workmen know me by sight and they have been working 24/7 in the torrential rain and winds. Most of them are away from home for a good few months, meaning that they are from other countries. The boss looked shattered but appreciated my gesture. Their better half is also a clinician.

It’s a politician’s answer. 😊

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Noelnoel in reply toNarwhal10

It is a politician’s answer. Why though?

Newhealth profile image
Newhealth

Yes, they are and less discomfort as well :)

am111 profile image
am111

Only difference is absorption in 15min(IM) vs. absorption in about 1 hr(SC). Theoretically, both should not be too different, with a slightly higher absorption for SC. I have used both and did not feel any difference.

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Rexz

I've only ever done SC for 3.5 years now. It works perfect.

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WIZARD6787

I have yet to find any information specific to the efficacy of B12 SC vs IM or sublingual. It has not been studied and generalizing is always limited.

I find SC to be effective and less effort so that is what I do.

Are there any videos or information regarding SC and what different needles are required please?

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ShawnH

I went from IM to subcutaneous, and I ended up developing neurological symptoms again. But I have known others who are fine with subcutaneous injections. I am all for IM as I absorb more/better.

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Sissiotto in reply toShawnH

Hi ShawnH. Do you do them yourself? I’m afraid as they hurt much more than Sc. And on which part of body?

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ShawnH in reply toSissiotto

Hi Sissiotto , I inject in my thighs, following guidelines for where to inject. The key is to insert the needle quickly. Also, I have some numb spots on my skin here and there from nerve damage due to B12 deficiency. That actually makes it less painful sometimes! Silver lining?

I always think about how grateful I am to be injecting this life saving shot of B12, and truthfully, that makes it less painful. My friend who is a Nurse Practitioner says pinch the skin slightly too, and that also makes it less painful when you insert the needle quickly. Hope this information is helpful!

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Sissiotto in reply toShawnH

Thanks a lot for your reply. I will definitely try. My whole body is in a chaos. Mussels tendons nerves every movement is painful. Rhumatoid polyarthritis cardiovascular disorders and PA. But I can’t miss to say that since injecting B12 mood and energy have really improved so that I support all these issues better.

Greetings from Switzerland

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ShawnH in reply toSissiotto

I hope you continue getting better. I'm confident you will. The shots are not fun, but yet, life saving and a gift.Switzerland! Wonderful!

Greetings from 🌞 sunny Scottsdale Arizona, USA!

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Noelnoel

I’m sorry but I have no idea what you’re talking about. I only asked what your role is in healthcare

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Noelnoel

Yes, treating something incurable often at end stage

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