Anyone experience morning hunger but nausea when trying to eat?

[Sneedle]

Hello,

My daughter has asked me to ask if anyone experiences not being able to get food or liquid down in the morning, despite feeling hungry? She gets hungry (normal hunger pangs in stomach) and wants to eat, but then feels nauseous, even water makes her feel 'yucky'. As I have mentioned on other posts, she does have some kind of sensory/possibly neurodevelopmental issues.

It's a bit of a strange one.

Later on from around lunchtime it's not a problem.

Adrenals? B12 related at all? Other vit/min issue?

Anything anyone has experienced over the years?

Thank you from my daughter.

[Jillymo]

I awake every morning with nausea.

Unlike with your daughter mine eases off once I have eaten ! ☕ 🍳

I am not able to pinpoint the cause but it can be very unpleasant. I had a short synacthen test carried outin Oxford a few weeks ago but as yet not had the results ! 🤔

[Sneedle in reply to Jillymo]

Ah hope you get them soon Jillymo! Yes, my daughter doesn't feel nauseous unless she tries to eat or drink - yet she's hungry. And likes her food. It's a bit bonkers.

Adrenaline/cortisol too high in morning - or too low?? For either of you?

I hope your synacthen test gives some clues for you.

[Jillymo in reply to Sneedle]

Has your daughter been screened for hyperglycemia ? If I remember correctly it is a simple fasting blood test.

It might be worth a mention to her Dr. 😘

[Nackapan in reply to Jillymo]

My daughter has alot of nausea .Has to kerp to s restricted diet worked out over years .

She sips hot water with s squeeze of lemon then very small amounts of food frequently.

Does feel better for food once down.

Her symptoms worse a.m as has POTS from undiagnosed b12 deficiency

[jade_s]

Possibly low cortisol? But possibly also low B12, or some other hormone/vitamin/mineral imbalance. In those of us with several issues, it's sometimes difficult to sort out what's what.

B12 injections will also change taste buds and even the sensation of foods, as nerves in the tongue 'wake up'. Water tasted yucky to me for a long time too. Bottled sparkling water was the only thing that I could tolerate, and even now I find that some tap water tastes disgusting, and it makes me mucous-y (sorry for the image).

[Sneedle in reply to jade_s]

That's very interesting- my daughter gets all 'mucousy' with lots of things. Tap water can make you mucosy?? Gosh.

Thanks for your reply I'll tell her.

[jade_s in reply to Sneedle]

I think low stomach acid is a contributor. So taking sufficient lime juice, along with a good priobiotic (I prefer kefir), can help. I vaguely remember we may have discussed SIBO? Low stomach acid is a contributor and may cause nausea - possibly because the digestive system is so sluggish siboinfo.com/symptoms.html

[Jo55 in reply to jade_s]

Interesting what you say about water, I’m due my injection this morning - and have really suffered the last few weeks - and even the small amount of water I have to drink in the morning with a tablet has made me feel very sick for a while now

[Sneedle]

Jo55 did you ever have that reaction to water before you got ill with B12 D/PA?

As you say, it's interesting for sure.

[WIZARD6787]

I had and still have issues with water and food. I have a window of opportunity to eat. I mitigated this by having food ready to go at a moments notice.

I would say to myself "Well eating is not happening." I would also be able to eat ice cream or pudding but not anything else.

I stayed away from it is all in my head and I just need to eat well etc.

I find it helpful to think in terms of hunger and not eating.

I go with it is all about my neurological system and it will heal with the correct self supplementing.

[Leothelion]

I had nausea for years, not knowing I had mild gastritis, then a H pylori infection showed up followed by severe gastritis as drs did not look at results, I then did research on gastritis and diet, free from nausea now. Gut healing probiotics no acidic foods, I can now eat most foods, but also gf & df .

[Eton in reply to Leothelion]

Hi Leothelion can I ask how you healed your gastritis as I suffer from this. I have removed all caffeine from my diet, don’t eat acidic foods or drink any alcohol. My diet consists of porridge, bananas, potatoes, oatcakes, fish, chicken and plain steamed vegetables.

[Leothelion in reply to Eton]

Hi, I still could not eat bananas or oily fish, like you chicken and plenty of green veg broccoli etc mashed potatoes, poached eggs, no spicy foods, and not too much fried food, if I made wedges I used organic coconut oil, good fats, no raw foods as this did not digest, it was pretty much plain foods, I used just tummy live bacteria, before breakfast and before bed, I used DGL solgar liquorice supplement, and main meal I used Quest disgestive enzymes, no caffeine, wine etc.

I saw your bio and your low ft3, it’s good you found your cause, low Ft3 that low must have been terrible for you, it can affect gut function and I’m sure this contributed to my gut issues, but I do think B12 has really helped the healing too, have you had that tested along with folate.

[Eton in reply to Leothelion]

Thanks Leotgelion.

I also like you use Solgar DGL. I must check out the digestive enzymes you refer to and perhaps add them to my toolkit!

Over the years my b12 reading has always been at the upper end of the range and occasionally over range and that is without supplements so I am scared of taking supplements.

I am quite sure my below range T3 over so many years has impacted my digestive system and frankly I disparaging of every feeling truly well and enjoying my food again. Nausea, constipation etc are with me constantly.

Thank you again for your reply.

[Leothelion in reply to Eton]

I understand about supplementing B12 if it’s high, but best to get it checked, I’m sure you can feel well again, it did take me over a year of reading about the gut and the impact of our thyroid, may I suggest a gut specialist, not sure what area you are, but have a look at Bant registered ones, they will definitely help. Hope you can find an answers, I also did a genetic test too. Good luck ..

[Eton in reply to Leothelion]

Many thanks for your advice Leothelion. I am in Northern Ireland so will have to research suitable gastro specialists here.

Did the genetic test reveal anything to help you in your health journey? Im sure it was expensive so maybe not something I can afford right now.