Anxiety

[frufru11]

Did any of you have anxiety as one of your primary symptoms before treatment? I have anxiety and am wondering if it is connected.

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I’ve had incredibly high anxiety for years. Since I had my loading jabs and started supplements for vit d and iron, I’ve found it’s got better. It hasn’t gone away and I still get horrific days and it’s constantly there, but it’s lessened a bit from what it was.

[Nackapan]

Yes I had anxiety and some paranoia I know realise was part of b12 deficiency symptoms. I remember posting g the same question nearly 2 years ago and being mightily relieved csn be one of the many symptoms. Paranoia gone. Anxiety occasionally/rarley now on regular injections.

Horrid. Never had it before in such a way.

[frufru11 in reply to Nackapan]

Do u remember how long it took for it to get better?

[Nackapan in reply to frufru11]

I was under a ridiculous amount of stress before I got ill. The anxiety took a while as it changed into anxiety about my health and coping with symptoms daily. I never had panic attacks it wad more when trying to sleep. I did quite quickly learn to deal with it . It certainly got a bit worse before going and seemed to happen after an injection. Whereas now it's more a sign u need one but not every time.

Everything been so so gradual and I've had alot of different symptoms. When i was trying a chart there were 27. So I didn't do it for long . Then tried with the worst ones just to try and keep track. Anxiety was not one of the 27 so mustve Improvrd early on.

Sorry I cant be clearer . It takes time . Just learn ways to try and cope with it . It will improve. .

[Gambit62 Administrator]

My stress actually got worse when I started on B12 injections - it didn't actually improve until I started treating myself using a nasal spray much more frequently than it said on the spray. The first symptoms to go related to balance - a few weeks for that - the last ones to go were the depression and anxiety which I had always had since I was very small - that came as a bit of a surprise to realise about 4 months later that I wasn't actually depressed any more.

That isn't to say that I don't get anxious and I do get depressed - the current pandemic really has me on the edge - just that it isn't as constant.

B12 definitely plays a part for me - but both depression and anxiety are multi-factor conditions, but B12 deficiency can make some people more susceptible.

[frufru11 in reply to Gambit62]

Thank u for your reply. Where did u get b12 nasal spray?

[Gambit62 Administrator in reply to frufru11]

a company called detox people - they do nasal spray and nasal drops

[frufru11 in reply to Gambit62]

Thank u!

[Jengastar]

Yes definitely part of my symptoms!!! Getting the first few injections was like a switch that flicked it off for me though. Hope you get over this too

[Leils]

Yes.

400 mcg folic acid along with B12 keeps it at a manageable level for me

[Kerrierach]

Yes, debilitating anxiety/panic attacks, irrational thoughts and also thoughts of death almost constantly the year before I stated injecting.

In the first month of injections (intensive loading of daily Injections) my anxiety went through the roof. I was unable to function.

Then, after this time, I experienced a calm I hadn’t experienced for years. I am also more rational and positive. Like a lot of people in healing, it can go up and down and I’ve had moments where I’ve had some anxiety. I also suffer from low cortisol (Adrenal insufficiency) like a lot people do with B12 deficiency - this can cause anxiety at times).

So, yes, my B12 def caused debilitating anxiety and now I am much better is this respect.

[frufru11 in reply to Kerrierach]

I am like you, the injections seem to be making my anxiety worse. Just holding on hoping it will subside.

[Kerrierach in reply to frufru11]

It made it much much worse - it’s healing. The body has been starved of B12 for years and then it suddenly wakes up and bilions of reactions in the brain start happening. In the first month I had severe agitation and anxiety. I was very ill from it and surprised that I wasn’t sectioned. After a month of daily IJ it had gone. Do what you can do get through this with the belief that this is temporary and it will pass

[frufru11 in reply to Kerrierach]

Thank you! That gives me hope. Just curious what helped your anxiety as well as how much you injected daily. No pressure to give info you don’t feel comfortable with. I have a bottle of clonazepam (benzo) for use as needed. I haven’t taken any for months, but last week I think I took 10 throughout the week and I still felt anxious.😢

[Kerrierach in reply to frufru11]

At that point it was uncontrollable. I knew all about mindfulness, breathing exercises etc etc but this was a different level. It was from chemicals connected with B12 and low cortisol. Nothing really helped it except injecting B12 daily (2mg-4mg) “mega dosing”. And I took a small physiological dose of steroid to replace missing cortisol. I was very ill. I would have been sectioned. After some weeks I was better. It was a terrifying time. After this “animalistic phase” I was able to take magnesium baths - that seemed to help. I never took benzos - in a way I think it would have been easier to do that. If I could reverse time I think I should have taken a small amount as my state slowed down healing I think. My priority was to get B12 into me quickly.

[Kerrierach in reply to Kerrierach]

By the way I used to be a primary school teacher and lecturer with no mental health issues. Anxiety slowly crept in over last few years and the last year was pretty unbearable. The worst ever was first month of injections.

Then I experienced a lightness and calmness and a sense of peace.

[frufru11 in reply to Kerrierach]

Thank you so much for this info, I really appreciate it. You give me hope!!!

[Kerrierach in reply to frufru11]

Good. I came back on as I thought that I might not have been much help. I suppose a lot is to with what type of anxiety you have. So in the years before treatment I avoided triggers, I also preferred not to be alone and I found exercise helped a little. I sought a lot of reassurance but I don’t think that is necessarily the best strategy. The biggest help when I developed health anxiety and focussed on my body was Dr Claire Weekes and her floating strategy - it is excellent.

[frufru11 in reply to Kerrierach]

I will research it.

[Woodyscooby in reply to frufru11]

Frutru11 my anxiety is through the roof to ..we just have to try and cope and pray things get better ...having support helps im sure but its when your on your own its worse 😑

[frufru11 in reply to Woodyscooby]

So I had had anxiety for years probably due to undiagnosed PA, however after the first shot (1mg), it got really bad. Since I was self injecting I lowered the dose myself as I was so scared of the anxiety. My thinking was that maybe I had to ease into it, or that a lower dose would mean less anxiety. After listening to Kerrierach’s story I decided to try injecting 2mg thinking the anxiety couldn’t get much worse. Well what do u know, my anxiety almost entirely went away. Thank you Kerrierach!!!❤️

[Kerrierach in reply to frufru11]

Good I’m pleased to hear it. With me, it came back - it waxed and waned...clear calm moments followed by moments of sheer panic - HOWEVER, after a few weeks I noticed that the panic was never as bad as the previous time...it got less intense over time.

[frufru11 in reply to Kerrierach]

Hey, just have a couple more questions for you. So I found relief from the anxiety when I started the higher dose of b12, then I lowered it back to the regular 1000mcg once a day as I wasn’t anxious anymore. I went a few days like that. Yesterday I had a panic attack. I have only had a few panic attacks in my life. And since starting the b12 I had only had anxiety, not panic. Did u also experience panic attacks during this. They r so scary and I am hoping this is part of healing, but kind of scared that I am not healing.

[MoKayD]

Yes, anxiety and some paranoia were the last symptoms to appear for me. After my first B12 shot I was driving away from my doctor's office and I felt a wave of calm and peacefulness wash over me. It was incredible. I think the last symptoms to appear are the first to go. Now, I have anxiety when it's normal to have anxiety, like grocery shopping during covid times.

[Narwhal10]

Hi frufru11,

Sorry to hear you are anxious. 🤗 Hopefully with treatment this will go or lessen. I suffered greatly with my mental health, I had undiagnosed coeliac disease.

[frufru11 in reply to Narwhal10]

Thank you, my son has coeliac disease. I was never tested because I didn’t have the symptom he had. However I thought that just maybe that is one of my problems so I have been gluten free for over 2 years. I think it has helped somewhat.

[Narwhal10]

Sorry to hear about your son and symptoms of coeliac disease can be different for different people. The human body is a wonderful intricate machine that needs TLC. Unfortunately, Western medicine separates the mind and body and then specialises in different areas of the body.

Anxiety can be due to organic reasons (thyroid problems, vitamin deficiencies) but the mind is poorly understood.

It’s good that you recognise it, you are allowed to be anxious. It’s not something we decide to have. Maybe (??) notice what feelings, physical symptoms you have and how it affects your behaviour, for example - avoid answering the phone. So, it’s more about being ok with it. 😊