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Laura Update 2 - The Fight

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First of all, let me thank all of you who have responded to my last Update with your support and helpful advice.

I can’t answer everyone as I usually would, because my circumstances are so dire.

This last week has been nothing but doom and gloom.

My Oncology Team has offered me no options except to call Dorothy House. They nixed any suggestion of options such as liver surgery or even referring me to a liver consultant. They expect me to die of liver failure sooner, rather than later.

I am researching this and my GP will refer me to specialists in Oxford as well as Prof Christina in London. I might try the Marsden, too.

I am furious with my team here in Bath. They claim to be supportive, but their support is limited to offering me pain meds.

I am not in pain. My only symptom is rising Bilirubin and I have turned a very bright yellow.

My CT scan is Monday. I am to hear from the team Wednesday afternoon. Once I have the scan report, things will be clearer and I can go ahead with referrals.

Amazing that this has come to such a pass.

Fighting on,

Laura

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Birdsong222

We are all rooting for you Laura. Keep fighting the system. Good to hear your Gp on board.

Big hug.

Sylvia xx

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mupash

HI LAURA,

HATE TO HEAR THIS NEWS. I THINK YOU WILL PROVE THEM WRONG.

GLAD YOUR GP IS ON BOARD FOR REFERRALS. YOU KNOW WE'RE ALL

PULLING FOR YOU.

HUGS XXX,

LEE

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Seasun36-uk

Keep fighting Laura!

Big hugs,

Linda xx

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Katmal-UK

Oh Laura

I have been meaning to reply to your previous post. Don't let the b*****ds grind you down, keep that fighting spirit. We are all here for you xx Kathy xx

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Lindaura in reply to Katmal-UK

Thanks, Kathy,

The battle is joined!

Hugs,

Laura

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SEAEGG

Lindaura, do try the marsden, you're very lucky with your GP, not all are as caring. I too live in Bath, and I had a hard time trying to get a hysterectomy as they said I did not have cancer but, yes, I did and I knew it so kept insisting for a hysterectomy, the cancer was then found in my womb, I'm glad you're not giving but not too surprised that they are not helping you further. Just keep trying.

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Lindaura in reply to SEAEGG

It’s so disappointing!

The RUH has seemed to be fabulous for me, but now my Oncologist just seems worthless and I am stunned to find myself written off so easily.

I travelled to the Marsden every week for a trial last year (which ultimately did not work) and it was not so bad, but the Virus makes going to London pretty tricky.

However, if I get through this, I am not going back to [the consultant].

Hugs,

Laura

*this reply was edited by moderators to remove the consultant's name and replaced with the text in square brackets*

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MH500

Keep fighting Laura xx

Keep fighting Laura even though it is exhausting. I don't think much of your team's response but at least your GP is supportive.

Sending a big hug. Nicola x

Oh Laura it doesn’t sound like your team are trying to do everything for you - how upsetting for you.

I do hope you manage to see Prof CF as soon as possible. I had my 2nd surgery with her in Jan 2020.

She is absolutely fabulous.

Everything crossed that someone can help you very soon.

Much love xx

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Lindaura in reply to Differentforgirls

Thanks for that,

I hope she can help me. Or at least give me some options.

Hugs,

Laura

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Frenchhouse3

Oh Laura, I’m so sorry to hear what you are going through at the moment. You are right to keep on fighting and get those referrals. You are a tough and inspiring lady.

I wish you all the best with everything and hope that things take a big turn for the better ASAP.

Much love

Denise xxxxx

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Spirit22

So sorry to hear this . I hope you get your referrals soon. Glad your GP on the ball keep fighting big hugs Xx

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Jud15

Keep at it Laura, glad you've got a good GP

Hugs Judithx

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N-A-58

Sorry to read this Laura. I am dumbfounded that they aren’t trying other options. Why do I read about those in America living for years with OC? They try so many options and keep going.

I’m glad you’re not in pain and really hope you get some proper answers next week.

Please keep us updated and carry of fighting your team for answers and treatment.

My mums oncologist was very much glass half full. Told us before treatment that she had 3-5 years. What the hell. He didn’t like me for questioning him on everything!!

Take care! Xx

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Lindaura in reply to N-A-58

Well,

Some bedside manners do need improvement, but I want more than honesty.

I want thinking outside the box and not a death sentence based in an imprecise ultrasound scan.

Hugs,

Laura

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figroll

Oh Laura, I've been reading your posts. What a nightmare you've been having. Has anyone suggested Kings College Hospital in London? They're a specialist liver unit and treat cancers. I used to work there (v long time ago) but they're brilliant. Worth a try. X

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Lindaura in reply to figroll

Thanks,

No, I have not explored Kings College yet.

Thank you,

Laura

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delia2

OMG Laura. I’m so sorry your team isn’t being helpful. How could they give up so easily? I hope you find options with a different oncologist soon. Xx

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win_56

Laurs please contact professor Christina Fotopolou at Queen Charlotte. If anyone can help it will be her. She is the best surgeon in the UK.Please get your referral to her. That's what I would do and the other option is what figroll has suggested the special liver unit that too seems a good option as they are specialist. Do glad your doctor is on board with this with you. Please keep in touch and let us know how you get on

XXX

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Lindaura in reply to win_56

That’s my plan!

Hugs,

Laura

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win_56 in reply to Lindaura

Great Laura. I'm so relieved you are doing this. If I were you I'd defo do thus. When my surgeon said he couldn't take the lymph nodes out I contacted Prof Christina and she said if I hadn't started chemo she would have attempted to take them out as she had done about 70,percentage of these successfully. She said I know they are near the main aorta artery and it can be dangerous and that I may have s lot if scar tissue as my surgeon suggested but she said as soon as she would have opened me up she would know. Her take on it is that she doesn't understand how surgeons can say no until they check inside first but she doesn't like us to have started chemo first.She realises I had no choice as NO operations unless urgent debulking was taking place in March and April do I had no choice to start chemo as lymph nodes were galloping. Im do glad that you are seeking out other opinions and getting the ball rolling now. More do you will feel better too knowing you are not taking a back seat on this. Big hugs to you Laura we are all rooting for you.xxx

Laura your post has shocked me to my core! Your CTscan results should produce some answers, lets hope your team will be acting positively upon the results. Good Luck Laura, I will be thinking of you especially on Wednesday, when I hope you get some good news about your treatment plan going forward. Take care gentle hugs 😘 xx

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JustKBO

Im so sorry to hear all this Laura but you have strength and determination so keep fighting on. We were diagnosed at the same time and I remember you asking what the difference was between on the liver and in the liver. I’ve always been encouraged because people say it’s ok when it’s on the liver. Did yours start on the liver? I had it on the bowel and liver. Does it mean it will go into them.

Anyway this is about you not me. I am sending my strongest vibes to give you courage. X

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Lizzieanne in reply to JustKBO

Wld be interested to hear about this mine on the livera apparently there is like a clingfilm lining round liver and mine is there. Wonder if yrs is same

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JustKBO in reply to Lizzieanne

Im 2017 they cut the tip off my liver as there was a bit of C on it. In 2019 the hey saw another « something » but it appears to have shrunk with chemo.

It was on my bowel and on my bladder

I just wonder if eventually it muscles it’s way in.

Good luck to you. Fight it. 👊🏻

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Lindaura in reply to JustKBO

I just started out with regular Stages 3 Ovarian cancer, all over my bowels, peritoneum, but not my liver.

This is a new progression [edited by moderators].

Grr...

Hugs,

Laura

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bluepeterella

Here's hoping you get all the help you need as soon as possible.

Sorry to hear you are having to fight at what is already a hard enough time! X

Dear lovely Laura, what can I or anyone else say but never give up. You’re a very strong lady so use this strength to win the battle. We’ve all become to love you in own way so rest assured we’re here to listen night and day be it good news or bad.

All the very best

Lots of love Angela xxx

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Lolotango

Laura,

Keeping fighting, you are your best advocate. Sending prayers and positive thoughts from the USA! Stay strong!

Airhugs,

Lois

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Doglover1410

Hi Laura, it’s good to hear that at least you’re not in pain, keep fighting lovely xx

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Newbie_2020

You are absolutely right to keep the fight!

Your profile says that you are on Niraparib....Did they stop it? could this be one its side effect?

Low platelets which is a side effect of Niraparib correlates with increased concentration of bilirubin causing a yellowing of the skin and eyes (Jaundice).

Thinking of you and Wednesday is not too long away.

Take care x

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Lindaura in reply to Newbie_2020

I need to update my profile!

I was only on Niraparib for 3 months. I had no bad side effects. And it slowed the cancer down, but did not stop it.

I begged for them to give me a higher dose, but they refused.

Hugs,

Laura

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Newbie_2020 in reply to Lindaura

Bless you! A big hug and I hope you'll hear some reassuring news on Wednesday.

Are you any other Parp inhibitors? any treatments at all?

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Lyndy

We are totally behind you Laura... hopefully you will find a more positive approach elsewhere. Incidentally (and I know you don’t want to engage with this right now) but a friend used to volunteer at Dorothy house and I understand it is fab.... they might be able to help with symptoms while you go after more options. xx

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Lizzieanne

I would be angry as well. What reason do they give for not referring you to a liver specialist? May you find the strength to stay strong and get some help and answers. Like you my spots are on outside of liver at moment. Do update us all. Sending care to you and your family for some positive options

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Welshandproud

Sending you lots of love and strength. Keep fighting lovely lady 😘

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January-2016-UK

Prof Christiana Fotopoulou is a specialist in radical surgery for ovarian cancer. As you say start the ball rolling as soon as you get your scan results as your existing team have to send her your records. The Marsden is good idea too, as they know you and may have trials suitable. Try everything, I know you will. Presumable the Letrozole not working.

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Lindaura in reply to January-2016-UK

Yes!

I will try everything!

Hugs,

Laura

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Eriksendi

Hi Laura - I read all of your pots and admire your strength of character you are an inspiration to many of us on here. I was diagnosed in April 2017 around the same time as you With stage 3 peritoneal/ovarian cancer aged 58. I Have looked to you for inspiration and strength in my really dark days. You are pursuing every option you can and those that Ladies on here recommend. I hope that you can get a referral very soon to C F or the Marsden that will be able to help you. Keep fighting Laura - you are one special lady x x x

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Lindaura in reply to Eriksendi

Thanks so much,

Yes, I will try everything!

Hugs,

Laurs

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sjg81

Keep fighting Laura xx

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Katiebairdie

Hello Laura

Keep strong. Chase up the Prof and other options for referrals. You are one of the best for finding a way.

Kathy

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cbulha

Our dearest Laura,

You're such a beautiful human being, I just know it, and we're all sending you lots of positive energy and Love. I'm sending you a warm soft breeze across the Atlantic, from Lisbon 💓🙏💚

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Mommoo65

From across the big pond I wish you every success in getting the help you need. I am so glad your doc has your back and can fight for you! Don't give up! Hugs!

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ShropshireJo

Just want to wish you all the luck in the world in your quest to find the best treatment. If anyone can do that, it’s you Laura. Jo 🌺🌼🌸🌻🌹

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Cheryl4677

Sorry to hear your distress at this news. I hope that you find some resolution and get answers from wherever you can. You still have that fighting spirit.

Everything crossed for you.

Cheryl x

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Jack1066

Keep strong

Lots of Hugs

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JayGeeCee

Dear Laura

You have an amazing spirit and are always so upbeat which inspires us.

I’ll be keeping everything crossed for you.

Keep us posted.

Sending positive vibes and hugs

Joy x

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truewordweaver

Hi Laura. I'm relatively new here, having been diagnosed at the end of Feb and in chemo since May. This may or may not be helpful, but if you do find a surgeon willing to operate, you could send a sample of the tumour to Nagourney Cancer Institute in the US. They test the cancer cells against various chemo drugs to see which are actually effective in killing the cells. If my own situation comes to this, I'm going for it, as it seems a much more sensible way of tackling the disease than 'try this and see if it works'. Anyway, I wish you all the best in your quest for treatment. Here's a link if you're interested: nagourneycancerinstitute.co...

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ruthg55

This is awful that you have to fight for referrals especially with the strain that you’re already under. I don’t understand why some oncologists are so reluctant. There is nothing to lose by seeking other opinions. I think the suggestions already given to see Prof C & the liver consultant sound promising. Take heart Laura - we’re all behind you. Xx

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Cropcrop

Sending love and support Laura as you go through this, I hope you get some better answers very soon. Big gentle hugs ❤️Xx Jane

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TarbonNZ

I am sure you know everyone is in your corner Laura. Your spirit is one of legend, and if anyone can get the help they need, and should have by right, my money is firmly on you. Thanks for showing us the way. Love Therese xx

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Wonnie

Keep on going, your determination is inspiring x

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Mumsie13

Dear Laura. I'm so sorry your onc team seem ready to throw in the towel but I am not surprised to hear that you are not giving up and are seeking further referrals with the help of your supportive gp. You are such a fiesty lady and if anyone can find a way, you can. Best if luck for Wednesday and sending lots of positive thoughts. 🤗 Jackie x

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Neona

So pleased you are seeing these specialists. My local hospital have done nothing except to cause me more harm. Rooting for you!

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Solange

💐🌻So sorry to read what a horribly hard time you're having, Laura. You've done so well with keeping going 👏. Don't give up now. 🤞 Fingers crossed you can get help from the two that your GP is referring you to. It must help a lot having a doctor helping you.

Sending love and a big hug, Solange 😊💐🌻

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thomas62

Hi Laura, What a b....y nightmare for you. Keep going and get those referrals in asap. Best wishes. Gwen xx

Hi Laura

So sorry you are still having to battle on to get treatment.

Wishing you lots of luck and success.

Keep on fighting!!

Janet

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Django123

I'm so sorry to hear this. I hope you can find more sympathetic and sensitive doctors. I will be thinking of you and your family. Lani

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Sashay2020

Laura, I don’t know if you are aware of US Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg. In 1999, she was diagnosed with colon cancer; in 2009 it was pancreatic cancer; in 2018 lung cancer and in May 2020, liver cancer. Justice Ginsburg is 87 years strong and still on the Court. I am in early days with my Stage 4 OV cancer. Thought it was stage 3 but CT shows likely metastasis to lungs. I’ve just had my second round of chemo yesterday. When I get gloomy, I watch little video clips of Justice Ginsburg. She is such a tiny lady, but a very feisty woman. Hearing her tell the story of a man who disliked her and said she would soon be dead, she smiled demurely and said. That man is now dead while I am very much alive!

Like Justice Ginsburg, I hope you too will continue to be very much alive!

Best wishes from Louisiana

Sashay

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win_56 in reply to Sashay2020

Good Lord what an inspiring story. The moral of the tale "Never give up to this ba**"rd of a disease. Laura get them referrals in asap.

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Lindaura in reply to Sashay2020

RBG is an inspiration for all of us.

Long may she reign.

Hugs,

Laura

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Barmycharm

Hi Laura

Feel so upset for you being in this awful position. You have to keep fighting and show them that you are not giving in so easily. It’s very sad that a lot of the time we have to shout to get the help we need!?!

You’ve got so much spirit, don’t give up, I’m sure there are other options as the ladies have suggested so keep on fighting!! You are a warrior and we are all willing you along.

Love and hugs

Claire xxx

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SASSY196

Sending you all my love and best wishes xxx

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yudalef

Dear Lindaura, just continue fighting against any one that the only prospect they can give you is to die of lever failure!

go to see other cancer experts not at Bath!

look for experts that can give you the best treatments and hope above all. the future is unseen and those who experienced clients death under their hands, have the fear of

loosing one more. If you can't trust them, go soon to better hospital or better expert. never don't give up!

Yud

Laura, you sound strong. Keep fighting! We are all behind you. It’s wrong that you have to fight so hard in this situation but we know what a wonderfully capable woman you are.

Thank you for keeping us up to date with your progress and inspiring us and showing us what to do if we find ourselves in a similar position.

Sending love & strength & hugs 😘🥰🤗🤗🤗🤗

Anne

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Lymbrae

So sorry your oncologist is being so negative. We are all behind you in your fight for treatment. Go for it!

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Artgreen

That’s abysmal care from the NHS. Very very disappointing. I wonder if you have considered the Care Oncology Clinic who will consult and prescribe on line. They offer a similar protocol to Jane McLelland’s in her book How to Starve Cancer. She was stage 4 Cervical and other cancers at least 10 years ago and is thriving. The main 4 drugs are also being trialled for cancer individually all over the world but are low toxicity safe drugs repurposed for cancer. The cocktail of them starve the cancer which stops it growing. I’m taking the drugs that my gp will prescribe. Metformin, simvastatin, menbendazole and Doxycycline. It is worth trying I think, I’m throwing everything I can at it.

Wishing you the very best

Alex x

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Mptelesca

Laura, I am always thinking of you and rooting. You're gonna do this! Just keep moving along and kick non supporters out of your path.

Sending you positive energy, love and warm hugs.

Marisa

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Maus123

Hi Laura. Thinking of you. Any news? Yellow colour subsiding? xx. Maus

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bluepeterella

How are things going Laura? Hope all okay x Kate

Hello again Laura - How did Wednesday's team meeting go? Good news I hope. Keep us updated, we are all rooting for you. Take care Lyn xx

How are you doing Laura?

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Tulips66

Hi Laura, I was just sitting here at home & thinking of you. How did your CT scan go on Monday ? I hope the news was more positive than last week & you are not giving up the fight. Keeping you in my thoughts Xxx

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