Wow! Has anyone tried this? There are... - Osteoporosis Support
Wow! Has anyone tried this? There are studies showing that these low intensity vibration devices can increase bone density.
Yes, they're becoming increasingly popular, and there certainly does appear to be evidence that they can help build bone. However, be warned, they're VERY expensive!
Unfortunately one has to check that a YT video is not a promo, and that the gadget in question is yet another way to mulct Medicare for $$$$$ and leave you with a doorstop.
idk... there is a lot of research to comb through. And doctors don't know. It's overwhelming. The drugs certainly seem very scary, dangerous, and questionable. I'm sooo confused.
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Yes I have invested in the above. It costs over £3000 but its the only one I would trust as you have to be careful with vibration levels.
I understand DEXA scans can be inaccurate. Had a REMS scan in June and now have to wait 2 years to see if there's any improvement with diet and exercise and the Marodyne. If you go to saveourbones website it details the shocking history of the drug developments and how osteopenia and osteoporosis have been labelled a disease.
what do you mean when you say that need to be careful of vibration levels? I have never heard of this type of plate before. Thank you just wondering. 😊
The Marodyne is a serious piece of medical kit which works out the vibration required according to your body weight. I believe the ones you find in gyms may cause more harm than good!
From my research the Marodyne is low intensity vibration. Many other vibration devises are at a higher frequency and can cause problems (retinal detachment among other things). The LIV device seems to be safest but most of the research seems to come from one researcher. I have been considering the Marodyne but would like to see some more studies.
is it anything like a hand held ultrasound device? Curious!
I bought one a few years ago, pre-OP diagnosis, because...I could, and I was always looking for ways to burn calories/fat especially off my legs, also was supposed to be good for circulation, etc. I used it pretty diligently the first year, 18 months, then lost interest as it didn't seem to do anything I could see. And I percolated a vicious case of osteoporosis anyway. (I also was a distance runner--bought the unit at the vendor fair prior to a very large running event--and strength trained pretty regularly, so, it's certainly not the vibration platform's fail, if you know what I mean.)
Since being diagnosed, finally, with osteoporosis, and now with several fractures, I too discovered the platform is supposed to be good for the bones. Wh3n I bought it, they told me not to use it more than ten minutes. Then I saw a Dr. Doug Lucas video wherein he said studies showed benefit to hips, but not spine, after 30 minutes three times per week, so I started using it again, doing some weight work at the same time. (Not much--you can only do so much on a vibrating rectangle, but for me, that's good, as I need something that will limit me. I've injured myself multiple times trying to get stronger.)
About two months ago, I watched another video that said you had to do no more than 15 minutes, with a break for a minute after every minute. (Sigh.)
I've now compromised with 20 minute sessions, no breaks, just a enough t8me to do three sets of each of the moves I'm doing with the weights, plus some squats if my back is up to it.
Is it helping my bones? I don't know yet, just got diagnosis in January, next DEXA January 2024. What I do know is it feels good--I couldn't say if that's a good thing or not, though; it seems to loosen up the muscles in my back that get very tight and sore, but for all I know, it also jostles the frayed ends of fractures. (I don't use it when I know I have a fresh injury, but I've bern conditioned to think some pain is a good thing, and the pain in my back after three inches of height lost can be bodacious, with the vibration being a delicious counterpoint ) It also triggers that little bit of weight training that I might otherwise forget about. It supposedly helps with balance, and it probably is doing that. It also may be benefitting the tone/shape of my legs and hips, which are smaller than they've been in maybe ever, which makes me feel better in this phase of life where it seems everything is falling apart. (I'm 62, for reference.) I never thought it would help my spine, and that's my problem area (t-score for hips/femoral head is also not good, but my spine is off the charts, by a lot, and I'm guessing there's not much, if anything, that can help it at this point. (If Evenity would help, my insurance company is going to make me wait until I'm fully disabled before they'll cover it, and even then, I suspect they hope I'll die first.) )
I am nonetheless looking forward to that DEXA in just over two months. If I see improvement anywhere, I'll surely report back.
Have you thought about Osteostrong, and dive deep into Dr Lucas, he is amazing and has such a wealth of information available
