irregular pulse beats

[Radars]

can proteinuria cause irregular pulse beats I have been having them for a while now, I get like shuddering sensations and when I take my pulse it's sometimes low, I took my blood pressure yesterday, 138/46 =40,133/52=63,133/53=58,have I got a problem.

[GoodHealthIsAJourney]

I have proteinuria, and I've never heard of that causing an irregular heart beat. However, I have had them for decades, and have had it checked out by two cardiologists. Luckily, mine is benign, but it really should be checked out. The heart is an amazing organ, and there are so many nuances that you shouldn't just rely on a guess. An EKG and Echocardiogram (both non-invasive) can accurately diagnose your irregular heart beats and help decide your plan of action, if any. It can simply be stress, low magnesium or other electrolyte, or fatigue. But it definitely should be checked out.

[Radars in reply to GoodHealthIsAJourney]

thanks, I had a ecg about 3 wks ago and the nurse said irregular pulse and my blood pressure slightly raised, she told my gp at the time just before the holidays, gp texted me to say the renal team think it was my high blood pressure and that they aren't concerned and said that she will discuss it with me after the holidays with a phone call, anyway I canceled the phone call and managed to get a face to face with another gp because I also have osteoporosis and it's too much to discuss over the phone, and I want to know where I am with this proteinuria at the moment it's bubbles in the toilet bowl, they should intervene in the early stages and not till it gets to stage 3 to 5,I need a blood test to see where I am and what to cut out to slow it down ,sorry it's a bit long.

[GoodHealthIsAJourney in reply to Radars]

All due respect to GPs, but this is not their field of expertise. While I am certainly no expert, I would be stunned if they were caused by your marginally higher BP. I'm not sure if they are distressing to you, but when I get them, I definitely feel it and it causes anxiety. Do you ever get light-headed with the palpatations? If you want to put your mind at ease, I would still recommend a cardiologist. Best wishes to you, and keep us posted!

[Darlenia]

Hmmm.... This could be anything from dehydration, electrolytes, to circulatory, to cardiac, to meds, and more. A very good place to start is with a full blood panel - looking for issues there - and an ekg. I personally don't like seeing a diastolic pressure of 46. I really hope you can find a doctor who will take you seriously. And then, depending on the findings, direct you to the proper specialist for further investigation if needed. Proteinuria doesn't, in itself, lead to an erratic heartbeat, but it does indicate that that you may well have some kidney damage. And kidneys play a big role in water levels, electrolyte balance, and more.

I noticed your age is close to ours - mid 70s. Age makes us very vulnerable to many things. Our bodies often don't judge things well - our sensory mechanisms get old - we may not feel like eating or drinking much and so on. In my case, my electrolytes were low (sodium/chloride) because I had removed too much salt from my diet. My symptoms involved an erratic heart beat and passing out in public. Recently, my husband (with a transplant) felt very sluggish and found he had a very low blood pressure. The ER receptionist checked his meds list, and stated, "Oh! You're probably dehydrated! Your heart meds won't let you recover." She was right. Dehydration provoked a type of pseudo a-fib, low pressure, etc. So this is the way it "can" go. However, there are also heart valves, heart arteries, signaling systems within the heart, and more too. Then, to add to the complexity, there are infections, kidneys, the brain, and more. If the answer can't be found at the basic level, then it's very important to move on the proper specialist in charge. So I wouldn't wait. By all means get the ball rolling by whatever means. Thankfully, our primary has been essential in arranging the team we have surrounding us. I'm really sorry to hear you have had issues in that regard. I hope you, too, will have answers very soon to your situation.

[Radars in reply to Darlenia]

thankyou for that it could be anything, but I now have a gp face to face on Friday, but when my gp was told that it was told by the renal team that it was probably my blood pressure why wasn't I offered any medication to help it from getting worse.

[Darlenia in reply to Radars]

Sadly, you're not being taken seriously. At your next appointment, I would bring this up and ask for a referral to a specialist (a cardiologist preferably) if it continues.

[WildIris]

Hi, those bp readings are all under 140/90, which is the upper limit of normal in the U.S. Plus blood pressure meds can cause all kinds of side effects, especially feeling tired. I have been through times when I had a lot of irregular heart beats, and was anxious about them. The shudder feeling is probably from an extra hard beat after a longer than normal pause between beats. Apparently anxiety is the worst thing about irregular heart beats, and also causes more irregular beats, so try breathing deeply and thinking pleasant thoughts next time. Though if you get atrial fibrillation, which causes a very fast but irregular heart rate, you might need to take anti-coagulants to keep your blood from clotting. Your doc probably checked for this though.

[Radars in reply to WildIris]

been to see gp today regarding proteinuria I showed him my latest b/p scores and he said on average they are ok, no meds for proteinuria he said I don't need them yet I am not that far down, he gave me a blood form so I can look at what's what, is that ok.

[2GOB4]

New BP optimal guidelines are under 120/80 according to my cardiologist. This has been made more strict just in the past few years. I have had high blood pressure since I was 33. That’s 41 years now since I took my first pill to control it. As a result of inadequate treatment for the first 15 or so years, (in my opinion), I now have stage 3A, and sometimes 3B, CKD. It took a cardiologist to put me on the correct combination medication to get it consistently under 140/90. His one rule for me was “ less than 150 mg of sodium per serving of food”. I tell my husband all the time that the American food industry is killing us with salt. Seeing a nephrologist put my numbers in perspective and eased my worries by explaining that my BUN fluctuates widely with protein intake. And he will follow my numbers every 3 months and ordered an ultrasound of my kidneys. If only I knew then what I know now……

[Radars in reply to 2GOB4]

I don't really understand what you are saying.

[2GOB4]

Sometimes I go off on a tangent. My point was that in the past blood pressure levels were considered ok unless they were over 130/90. Now the goal is under 120/80, and more is understood about the damage that elevated levels can cause over time to not only the kidneys, but the eyes, lungs, heart and other organs.