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Doctor doesn't seem to know if I have a problem

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My nurse practitioner that I see as my primary doctor has told me multiple times that I do not have kidney problems. However, today she said she will not prescribe me Metformin because it is metabolized in the kidneys. In April, I asked a different nurse practitioner about my eGFR numbers up until 03/19/24 and she was concerned.

I exercise and have a high protein diet which I thought may be affecting the creatinine level at each test point. That is why requested the Cystatin C on 05/09 which I thought would have eliminated any concern.

Here are my labs since January:

01/03/24 eGFR=56 (2021 Creatinine)

01/18/24 eGFR=72 (2021 Creatinine)

03/19/24 eGFR=68 (2021 Creatinine)

05/09/24 eGFR =100 (Cystatin C - Creatinine 2021), Creatinine=1.1, Cystatin C=0.8

05/09/24 eGFR=82 (2021 Creatinine)

06/04/24 eGFR=56 (2021 Creatinine)

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userotc

First of all, I applaud your medics who appear to have done a risk-benefit assessment for metformin in your case as I regularly stress should be done for all drugs. Sorry if you disagree.

I think I understand why you may be arguing your eGFR results (particularly Cystatin C) may indicate metformin can be tolerated but that drug with ckd is a debatable subject. They may be uncertain if you have ckd or not (which is frustrating) but seem to be adopting caution.

Have you considered if your T2 diabetes can be reversed naturally instead? I have links.

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haynewp in reply to userotc

I’m not diabetic yet but I have family members that are, and my A1C stayed at 5.5 for a year after dropping a lot of weight. The low dose Metformin I suggested as preventative to going prediabetic. I’m no longer over weight and expected the A1C to drop. I think I will start requesting and tracking Cystatin C instead of creatinine given how I eat and resistance train. At home urine protein tests are showing as either negative or trace amount.

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userotc in reply to haynewp

For the past 3y, my mum (aged 68, ckd3) has been able to control/lower blood glucose with an average fasting figure of ~5.7 whilst my dad (aged 70) has done likewise, average 5.5. Their respective hba1c figures are now ~39 and ~36. Both also sustained ~2stone weight loss and credit all to Nutritional Therapy.

Re Cyastin C, it certainly seems worthwhile getting at least 1 more test done to confirm the muscle effect on testing, with only 1 out of 6 done so far. Hope its lucky 7!

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WildIris

What does "2021 Creatinine" mean?

As you know, eating a high protein meal and exercising within a few hours of a test affect Creatinine, and you were smart to request a Cytstatin-C test too, but whatever you meant to type didn't come through whatever "correction" happened.

Hydration can also affect test results, make sure you're plenty hydrated. Your erratic eGFR results could well be a function of your creatinine levels, as presented here. CKD 101 is, (if it comes to that) avoid ibuprofen and other nephrotoxic drugs, eat plenty of fruits and veggies, avoid animal proteins, drink plenty of water, control your bp.

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haynewp in reply to WildIris

The 2021 Creatinine refers to the method used. kidney.org/professionals/kd...

I’m 51, lift weights and drink protein shakes a lot. I think this is the reason for the creatinine based variance. Was well hydrated at almost all tests.

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barbara55109

The bouncing around is unusual. Do your protein shakes contain creatine? I'd try to see a nephrologist to discus the changing lab results.

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haynewp in reply to barbara55109

There’s no creatine in them. Maybe there is something else I am doing that is stressing my kidneys and causing the creatinine differences. The very first one was dehydrated, but the eGFR only went up to 72 about 2 weeks later and I had stopped all unnecessary protein and nsaids by then and was also likely over hydrated at that test.

The very last one was taken when I had a mild flu, so I may have been a little dehydrated and my kidneys were stressed the from taking ibuprofen.

I do still use Voltaren periodically for pain. I think I will get a new Cystatin C from Labcorp soon.

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barbara55109 in reply to haynewp

Yeah, if you have any hint of kidney problems you've got to stop with the ibuprofen and voltaren, aspirin, Advil and any drugs in that class. While "conventional wisdom" say occasional use shouldn't hurt kidneys. Yeah, yeah, I s told the same thing about Prednisone and my bones. I was on pred off and on for 3 months and ended up with permanent bone damage in my knees, ankles and I don't know where else. My orthopedic Dr had a patient that got avascular necrosis, bone death, after just one dose of prednisone. Long term use of antiinflammatories is more likely to cause CKD, but I would not risk it. My CKD is from long time dehydration from living without a colon. Root cause of all my problems was ulcerative colitis, everything that came later cascaded from that. UC, prednisone, avn, total colectomy and ileostomy, CKD, malnutrition, vitamin B12, k and more deficiencies. At 61 I've got stage 4 CKD.

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