eggs - egg whites /egg yolk ?

[Allank]

I seem to remember some people here eating just the egg whites. I was suprised when I recently read on a healthy eating forum , not specific to kidneys , that we should eat whole eggs , because the white is mainly protein and the yolk has the other important fats, minerals and vitamins and of course cholesterol which does not bother more and more people today - the cholesterol con . bodybuilding.com/fun/protei...

[Bassetmommer NKF Ambassador]

Egg white does have protein, but easily digested protein which is good for the kidney. Also There are 6.28 g of protein in one large egg, and 3.6 g are found in the egg white. The yolk has the fat in it which is why most people skip it and the cholesterol. The whole cholesterol scare about eggs has calmed down and now not such a big deal. I eat one full egg for every two whites. I eat this almost every day. The reason for me is more for the lower calories which I watch. Egg white has 17 calories where as a full egg can be up to 90.

[orangecity41 NKF Ambassador]

I eat whole eggs but not every day. Info from Mayo Clinic: "Chicken eggs are an affordable source of protein and other nutrients. They're also naturally high in cholesterol. But the cholesterol in eggs doesn't seem to raise cholesterol levels the way other cholesterol-containing foods do, such as trans fats and saturated fats."

[SkiingSailor]

I eat about one egg a week. I used to have many more, before my diagnosis. It’s now my only source of cholesterol, so I doubt that would harm me. Again it’s the protein content.

[Sammi_n_Munk]

Hey there Allank! Yeah, I am really surprised that these days, the cholesterol factor in the egg yolk doesn’t seem to disturb too many people anymore the way it has in the past. But much like Bassetmommer says, I too consume more so only the egg whites, and not so much the yolk, as I know that the calorie content is low, it is more easily digestible, and the yolks are really more where the cholesterol and phosphorus are.

Egg whites are my breakfast every single day, and sometimes, even my dinner! Lol! Don’t misunderstand however, I do treat myself to a yolk or two every now and again, but usually just the egg whites. And another pro about egg whites: aside from being low in calories and easy to digest, they’re done cooking in mere minutes! Is there anything better? Lol! 😃👍✌️

[Jenjudyst]

I use 2 egg whites and one yolk to make egg salad normally only once a week.

[Marvin8]

There is zero consensus regarding how many egg yolks per day or week are safe for the general population to consume let alone the CKD population. The only consensus appears to be that dietary cholesterol hasn't been found to be causal for arterial plaque build-up. Doctors will tell you to "eat them in moderation", but that's just to cover their butts. They really have no idea. CKD patients do have a much greater risk of dying from CVD than the regular population, but still, that doesn't mean you should or shouldn't eat whole eggs. I would take most everything you hear regarding eggs with a pinch of salt and pepper. I eat two eggs several times a week, but admittedly, I have absolutely no idea how clogged my arteries are.Live a little!

[Darlenia in reply to Marvin8]

I agree with you. People don't realize the nutritional value of eggs including the yolks. As nutritional books point out, the yolk contains vitamins A, D, E and K along with omega-3 fats. Compared to the whites, egg yolks are also rich in folate and vitamin B12. 5. The yolks are also packed with tryptophan and tyrosine, and amino acids that help prevent heart diseases. So my husband (on dialysis) and I eat eggs regularly.

[Marvin8 in reply to Darlenia]

Indeed!

[rasbic in reply to Marvin8]

I eat eggs because I like them. At least a dozen a week. I'm going on 92.

[Marvin8 in reply to rasbic]

That's awesome!!!

[Darlenia]

With regard to eggs, eggs consistently raise HDL (the “good”) cholesterol. Apparently studies have shown that for 70% of people, there is no increase in total or LDL (the "bad" cholesterol). Some people may experience a mild increase in a benign subtype of LDL. That's according to my research on it but, by all means, feel free to discuss with your nutritionist.

[Allank]

My post was prompted by a answer I was given - " We can overeat anything as in eat more than the body needs. It is more difficult to overeat high complete protein foods (meat eggs etc) as they are more satiating than carb/fat combos - especially refined carbs and vegetable fats. This is also why it is important to eat food in the way it is found in nature. If someone eats a piece of chicken with the skin on, it is not unnaturally high in protein and therefore far less likely to tax kidneys/liver etc. The skinless chicken breasts and egg white omelets that many body builders consume are not natural and can lead to problems for the internal organs." - so the obvious questions why would people with CKD mimic body builders.

The next question is what about fat and cholesterol. Food guidelines have never been based on good clinical trials , more about bad epidemilogical research funded by Big Pharma and food companies that have demonized fat , cholesterol etc to push low fat , high carb foods with all the ramifications for insulin resistance and obesity. Fats are very important , every food is part saturated and unsaturated , the problem is with the man made transfats. Cholesterol is incredibly important to the workings of the body. In fact the research shows that people with high LDL have less risk of CVD than those that have low LDL. The confusion is that LDL may be a marker of heart disease but it is not the maker as is shown.

Arteries get damaged (age, stress, sugar, smoking etc) and the body will form a kind of scab/plaque over the damage to protect the area while it heals. The substances that go to the area to help with healing are carried in a low density lipoprotein (LDL) and they include cholesterol, phospholipids, protein and triglycerides. (Can you see the added irony that not only is cholesterol not the problem, it's part of the solution?!) If the area heals, all well and good. If the thing that caused the damage continues (e.g. smoking) then damage can form on top of damage and that's when arteries get more and more blocked. If the person has a heart attack and dies and an autopsy is performed, cholesterol will be found at the scene of the damage, but the cholesterol didn't cause the damage - it was there to repair!

zoeharcombe.com/the-knowled...

" My logical consideration of FH- Familial hypercholesterolemia (FH) suggests to me that the problem is that the LDL receptors don’t work properly and therefore LDLs cannot get into the body’s cells in the way that they are supposed to. This means that cells don’t get the vital LDL, carrying the vital protein, lipids and cholesterol needed for the cell’s health. LDL in the blood stream is high because the LDL has stayed in the blood stream and has not been able to get into the cells – where it is supposed to go. Hence high LDL blood levels are the sign that someone has FH. The high LDL levels are, however, a symptom and not a cause, or a problem per se. The problem is that the health of every cell is compromised by LDL not getting into those cells. This includes heart, brain and muscle cells – all cells. Someone with FH can therefore have heart problems – because of too little LDL reaching the heart cells – not because of too much LDL in the blood stream. How differently things can be seen when one is not blinded by thinking that cholesterol or lipoproteins are bad."

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[Sammi_n_Munk in reply to Allank]

Wow! This is interesting! I had no idea! And here we were, all this time believing that big, bad LDL was the culprit, and the whole time, it was trying to save us! Lol! 😃 But seriously, we learn something new every day. Thank you Allank, for sharing this with us. Definitely good to know! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻😊👍✌️🙏

[Allank]

of course to push Statins , the biggest drug money maker

[Marvin8 in reply to Allank]

Fantastic post, Allan. Thanks!Are you implying that folks shouldn't be taking statins?