Training plans

[benwill]

So now that myasics has gone, anyone got any recommendations for Training plans for a marathon? Thought I might use one for Paris as my running of late has been lazy at best. So it training start's here for Paris in April.

The other reason why I want to use a training plan as I used one for my first marathon and I have not been able to get near that time since so maybe they do work!

It has to be digital and it has to tell me what pace to run at, some it just says 76% marathon pace, I don't want that, i just want to know i should be running at so and so pace.

I could actaully look at runkeeper as i think i got a month or so left of its paid membership.

*and i promise i come back here for stuff too, i have been to lazy! and i put on alot of weight but lets not talk about that.

[roseabi Ultramarathon]

Hey Ben!

I keep hearing Training Peaks is good, although it costs a bit and I've not tried it.

You can have a copy of my pdf of the MyAsics plan I used for Brighton 2017 if you like - it's supposed to get you round in just over 4 hours 😜 I thought it was pretty good! I don't suppose that's what you mean by "digital" though...

[Lordi Marathon in reply to roseabi]

So are we having a HM2MB group now? (HM to Marathon Bridge)

[roseabi Ultramarathon in reply to Lordi]

Argh! See below 😂😂😂

[benwill Marathon in reply to roseabi]

oh might need to see if i can do HM first! this weekends task!

[Lordi Marathon]

I didn't use a plan for my first marathon (just a 5k, 10k, plus long run getting longer run each week up to 30k) but that was only designed to get me to the finish line irrespective of the time. So I too am now looking for something a bit more scientific to get me to (firstly) a HM PB on the way to a marathon PB, so will be very interested in the responses here.

[roseabi Ultramarathon in reply to Lordi]

I did my own plan for my first marathon, did a fast 3k, a 10k, and a long (very) slow run with hills increasing to 35k, barre workouts for strength, and got a HM pb on the way. So there you go 😉😂

[benwill Marathon in reply to roseabi]

Maybe you can coach me then what should i do this week coach?

[Millsie-J in reply to benwill]

Nice to see you back Ben🏃🏻

[benwill Marathon in reply to Millsie-J]

thank you!

[roseabi Ultramarathon in reply to benwill]

😂😂😂

[Lordi Marathon in reply to roseabi]

Yeah, maybe we are over thinking it all? A bit of speed work with a fast 5k, maybe run a 10k session at HM PB pace and then just jogging the gradually lengthening long runs is really all that's needed! Then treat any HM races as pace sessions for marathon project? Simples!

[roseabi Ultramarathon in reply to Lordi]

I think that is what it boils down to, but there are certainly plenty of plans out there that get specific with goal times etc. And it is nice to have a digital plan to nag you if you need it

I just read an interesting article about how the half marathon is the ideal tune up race for an ultramarathon. Because you are running at a consistently faster pace over a considerable distance, the HM helps train you to pick up your pace at later stages of a longer race. It was talking mainly about people who actually can WIN ultramarathons, but interesting for people like me too, and applicable to regular marathoners I'd say 😊

strava.com/athletes/1684138...

[benwill Marathon in reply to roseabi]

I love half marathon they are my fav distance out of all. But your training plan seems to be about right. Just need to work out the distance I need to increase by to get what I want in the time I have. I do like having a rest week once a month and just the long distance in half and just two 5ks.

[SkiMonday Ultramarathon in reply to roseabi]

Hi Abi. That's much like the plan I'm considering! Can you remember roughly how many 35k runs you did before your marathon?

[roseabi Ultramarathon in reply to SkiMonday]

Ooh, this is an old post 😄

I did only one 35 km run - as my longest run, at the end of my training before tapering.

It tends to be recommended for beginner marathoners to stick to one 32 km-ish run - this is because of the risks of injury to newer runners xx

[benwill Marathon in reply to roseabi]

I only ever do one long run approx 3*km before a marathon as well.

But as I have retired from marathon running..

[roseabi Ultramarathon in reply to benwill]

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