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This is a thread for those of us that have discovered that in order to trim the fat, we need to not trim the fat :)

If someone had told me 7 weeks ago, that I'd be frying and roasting my food in olive oil, adding butter to my veg, taking cream in my coffee and generally eating good, wholesome, tasty food to satiety, I'd have thought they were stark staring bonkers!

I had imagined months of deprivation and hunger in order to lose the excess pounds, however, I'm happy to report a loss of 17.25lbs so far, without a single hunger pang, or craving for the foods I thought I couldn't live without.

I'd love to hear other people's weight loss stories and join them on their journeys to the body beautiful :)

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Thanks Anup,

I'm afraid I can neither support or refute your theory about the "mainstream" as I really don't know.

My theory about the NHS is that they're reluctant to lose face.

The reality, currently, is that we each have to do our own research and follow our own paths :)

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The difference with the NHS, is that treatment is provided free of charge (bar minimal contributions through national insurance), but I'm far from being an expert, and cannot really say which of the theories is closest to the mark :)

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banku007โ€ข in reply tomoreless

What does mean "NHS".

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morelessโ€ข in reply tobanku007

National Health Service

It's the free medical service we have in the United Kingdom :)

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Well, it looks like I'm the only fatty on this site, which says a great deal about the LCHF diet. However, at risk of boring everyone to death, I shall still announce this week's loss of 1.125lbs :)

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edithann1962โ€ข in reply tomoreless

I lost 3 lbs this week; it's only my 2nd week on the LCHF plan. I'm so excited! I'm never hungry before bedtime anymore. My story is boring too, so YEA to boring!!!!! :)

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morelessโ€ข in reply toedithann1962

Nobody's story is boring Edith, well done you for losing 3lbs! That's fantastic news! :)

If only everyone could see the benefits of a LCHF diet :)

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Thanks Anup and many congrats for your achievement. Thank goodness for your tenacity.

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I'm very impressed! You must have helped so many people :)

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alwaysoptimisticโ€ข in reply tomoreless

He (anup ji) has helped me a lot in understating and managing my diabetes and I am too much thankful to him for the same.

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Anup Ji has guided me well on my journey to be drug free diabetic after 16 yrs. of taking medication. I am Great full to Anup Ji.

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I too am very happy to have found out more about the LCHF diet. However I think I must be getting a few things wrong because in my first week I lost 3.5lbs and in the second (i.e. this week) I lost only 100 grams! Now that I look at my stats I did have quite some sugar, so I can work on that, but my carbs were low and I made sure I did not confuse fat and protein, AND I stayed under 1200 calories just to be on the safe side and follow the NHS plan too. So I will have to see this week if main culprit was just the sugar....

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morelessโ€ข in reply toNussaybah

Hi Nussaybah,

I'm struggling to understand how you can be counting calories, following the NHS plan and following LCHF, as they're not really compatible and you definitely shouldn't be having sugar on any of those programmes :)

I'm relatively new to this way of eating and am certainly no expert. When I first started, I obsessed about grams and percentages and all it achieved was me getting stressed :)

For now, and it may change, I eat no fruit and get all my carbs from veg. I fry, braise and roast with olive oil, but have been strongly advised to get Virgin Coconut Oil (VCO) as it's much better for you, I add butter to steamed or boiled veg, buy fattier cuts of meat and eat the fat and have a couple of coffees with cream per day. I also try not to have to much protein. Apart from this, I eat when I'm hungry and stop when I'm full. Oh, I also do the 16 - 8 fast every day, as 2 meals are more than enough and quite often I only have one.

Hope this helps a bit :)

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oh and well done on your losses so far, it's really fantastic. I am now on 12st and 13 pounds and I had started 9 weeks ago at 14 st. So very happy with everything, just hating the slow weeks!!

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Thank you and well done to you too :)

I also have slow weeks and massively fluctuating weight on a daily basis. You just have to be patient and trust that it will all come good in the end :)

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Can anyone tell me where, in the UK, they get their VCO from, please, as all I've been able to find, so far, is a small spray bottle. Thanks :)

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I am in U.S.A but i would suggest to try any Indian Grocery Store. Good luck.

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Sheila32โ€ข in reply tomoreless

Tesco stock VCO, in their larger stores at least.

I got my last jar from Home Bargains, I think, at a very acceptable price.

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MrsBoobooโ€ข in reply toSheila32

2.25 in sainsbury's

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Thanks Anup, I guess it's not something you can just buy off the shelf then.

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ScoobaSteveโ€ข in reply tomoreless

Oh moreless another amazon order, hope it isn't from china lol

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morelessโ€ข in reply toScoobaSteve

Oh haha, not this time, but I'm expecting some problems though, knowing me :)

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I guess I'm just about to make my first purchase then :)

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Thank you :)

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My latest update is that I've lost another pound :)

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Not yet, maybe today :)

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I've lost 4.75lbs this week :)

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Thanks Anup, I'm really pleased. It's 24.125lbs in 10 weeks now :)

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Good grief! I'm too cowardly to even see a doctor, never mind have bariatric surgery! :)

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I'm still waiting for another fatty :)

1.625lbs down this week :)

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Another 1.25lbs down, making 27lbs total in 12 weeks.

Still feeling very lonely :)

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Fran182716โ€ข in reply tomoreless

Hi Moreless, sorry your feeling lonely here! , I haven't been posting much as not losing any weight at all, still eating healthily lower carb and maintaing previous weight loss but I just can't seem to get my head in the right place to get back to losing though fed up of being 2 stone over top of Bmi range. I wish it was possible to buy bottled motivation! You've done so well, congratulations ! โ˜€๏ธ

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It's not easy, I know and gets more difficult as time moves on. Is there any way you could see fit to reducing your carbs a bit, just to get things moving again. Maybe if you saw the pounds shifting, it would renew your enthusiasm :)

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Thanks Moreless, I think you're right if I could see a little difference it might kick me back into gear! I do need some carbs in the evening or I find I get a headache and don't sleep well, but I could save my porridge for then and eat low carb the rest of the day, worth a try โ˜€๏ธ

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morelessโ€ข in reply toFran182716

It's just a case of trial and error and finding what works. I'm ok at the mo, but goodness knows how long it'll last for :)

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Hi Moreless (and friends)

I started doing LCHF about 2 months ago and was doing really well, partly started it for weight loss but mainly to regulate blood sugar as I have a blackout condition. everything was going really well for about a month then I started to become very nauseous and "go off" a lot of foods. I'm now very limited in what I can happily eat the thought of foods such as chicken, eggs, fish, cheese fatty meat etc is out of the question at the moment. LCHF has gone out of the window and I am mainly eating dry toast and very bland foods. I really want to get back into LCHF if only to reduce my blackouts, can you give me any advice on foods that you eat when you don't fancy anything too heavy?

thanks in advance :)

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morelessโ€ข in reply toMeg90

Hi Meg,

Sorry to hear about the dicky tum :( Is it due to something specific?

Your list of no go food is quite comprehensive and doesn't leave much room for manoeuvre.

I would struggle to come up with ideas for protein and maybe some vegetarian LCHF followers would be of more use to you.

I make lots of soups eg pumpkin, mushroom, roasted veg, chicken and leek, vegetable, stilton and broccoli and raise the fat/protein content by adding cheese, or cream when serving.

Would you manage egg custards, or souffle's?

Vegetable casseroles with tofu, or quorn, although I have no idea what the carb count is for them.

Could you stomach homemade mayo/coleslaw with mixed salads

Flat mushroom pizza - if you use mozzarella pearls, you may find them easier to stomach.

Meat loaf with a spinach layer.

I don't know if I'm completely off the mark here Meg, let's hope there's something you'll be able to eat, or that someone else will be able to come up with something more suitable.

All the best :)

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Hi Meg, I don't eat meat and I'm not strictly counting carbs, just cut out refined ones and reduced amount of starchy ones. I don't know if any of my meals would appeal to you : I eat quite a lot of Quorn and as its a low fat protein I usually cook it in olive oil, burgers, sausages, pieces and mince, all good with salad or veg. My son loves his meat but prefers quorn mince to beef. I still eat small portions of lower GI carbs like quinoa and bulgar wheat, so not strictly low carb but messes with your blood sugars less than bread and still quite bland if that's what suits you ( I need herbs or spices to add To the taste). Would cheese like Philadelphia bother you less than hard cheeses as its quite mild taste.? Just wondered if you've been feeling nauseous for a while maybe visit the Dr. โ˜€๏ธ

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Meg90โ€ข in reply toFran182716

Hi Fran,

Thank you for your reply I think I will look into some Quorn alternatives for a while to see if that helps me. I may be wrong but I think the nausea is mostly due to anxiety around food, I am normally worried about eating something in case it makes me feel sick and by worrying about it I make myself feel sick, it's silly really but I'm finding it difficult to break the cycle and am therefore eating the wrong foods so as to avoid anything that may bring on the nausea. Hopefully if i can find something that breaks the cycle I can start cooking proper meals again as I do really enjoy cooking and felt much better when I didn't have a high carb diet.

thanks again for your reply

Best wishes

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Hi Meg, yes I see what you mean about getting stuck in a cycle, about 7 years ago i contracted salmonella and was quite poorly for a few weeks, and very wary of eating anything ( I still won't buy a sandwich from any lunch van as that's where I picked up the bug) only time I ever lost weight without trying! Wouldn't reccommend as a diet tho ๐Ÿ˜Ÿ you have to learn to trust foods again, just one at a time so you're not overwhelmed. Good luckโ˜€๏ธ

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Hi Moreless,

Thanks for getting back to me so quickly, I'm not too sure why I'm struggling as I've never been a fussy eater! Thank you so much for your suggestions I think I need to spend some time and effort in the kitchen preparing LCHF foods that I actually want to eat rather than eating bland carbs. I will let you know how I get on. Also are you planning to stay LCHF over Christmas? If so will you be cooking carb alternatives yourself or just abstaining from carbs. I did make LCHF pancakes the other day using beaten egg and cream cheese which were very good, I think I may start my reintroduction to LCHF with these!

:)

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morelessโ€ข in reply toMeg90

Hi Meg, I intend to stay LCHF forever now, because it suits me just fine and I've never felt better :)

I shall just cook my normal Christmas fayre for the rest of the family and I'll just abstain from carbs - funnily enough that doesn't bother me any more and I have no problem sticking with it :)

I hope you get on top of your "aversion" and start cooking up a LCHF storm in the kitchen :)

All the best :)

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Hi Anup, sorry I missed you.

You may be at the top, but I'm a lonely, lowly underling :)

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2.5lbs down this week for a total of 29.5lbs lost.

Have also lost 10% of my body weight now.

Thank you LCHF :)

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Wow! Moreless you are an inspiration. I have been reading up on LCHF over the last few weeks. My doctor was completely against it when I mentioned it to him as he doesn't think I should restrict any foods completely from my diet. I have put on 2 stones in the last 18 months and am overweight for the first time in my life, actually teetering on obese :( diagnosed with osteoarthritis of the spine, knees ankles etc and suspected fibromyalgia. Unfortunately I love carbs, especially bread and potatoes so I will have to be strong to do this. My hubby is onboard at the moment but he hasn't got any staying power and I know he'll get fed up.

Gosh sorry for the long post! By the way you can buy coconut oil in Holland & Barrett in the UK

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morelessโ€ข in reply toTyme2win

It's not necessary to eliminate all carbs Rtm, just choose them wisely and restrict the amount.

It would be perfectly acceptable for you to eat porridge oats, oatcakes, quinoa, or bulgar wheat. I have chosen not to, because I have an all, or nothing nature and have an awful lot of weight to lose.

Let me tell you from experience that I too loved my carbs, but this is a much easier way to lose weight than counting calories. You won't be hungry and after the first days of "withdrawal" symptoms, you won't crave the old foods and you'll feel so much better in yourself.

My husband loves the new diet too and he doesn't need to lose weight :)

All the best :)

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Thank you for your quick reply moreless. Excellent idea to still eat some carbs but restrict the amount. I know that if I deny myself completely I'll talk myself out of it and binge. I'm better having a little rather than none, including the odd glass of wine! Thanks again ๐Ÿ˜Š Tracy

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morelessโ€ข in reply toTyme2win

My pleasure, but there are others on this forum with far more knowledge than me.

I had a thread "Where are Mr and Mrs Joe Bloggs?" which had loads of good info on it. It's weird, but I can't see it any more. Have a look and see if you can, because this site does some weird things :)

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Okay I'll have a look, thanks. You may think others have more knowledge than you but you're obviously doing something right! ๐Ÿ˜Š

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I'm rubbish at the scientific side of things, I don't have much of a brain :)

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Found the other thread and it's exactly what I wanted to know. What's ok to eat and what isn't. Cheers

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morelessโ€ข in reply toTyme2win

Fantastic! I'm glad you can read it, even If I can't now :)

All the best to you :)

PS please keep me posted with your progress :)

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Thank you ๐Ÿ˜Š I will

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Thanks Anup,

You say the nicest things :)

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Thanks Anup,

I can find the thread, but when I "open" it, I can't read past the first paragraph. I'm assuming it's a site glitch, because it's happened to me with other threads.

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Oh oh, I'm going to show my ignorance again, I don't know what that means! :P

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Oh wow! It worked! You're a genius and my hero! :)

Thank you so much again :)

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Another 2.5lbs down, for a 32lb total :)

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Thanks Anup :)

I'm getting there :)

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I certainly will, but I've got a long way to go yet :)

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I expect to be going for another year yet and you're right the losses are motivating.

I'm just about to make a creamy coffee :)

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This weeks loss - 5.5lbs

Total loss - 37.5lbs

Feeling pretty pleased with myself :)

Thanks everybody for showing me the right path :)

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Thanks Anup :)

I've done lots of failing in the past, but not this time and the great thing is that I don't even feel as if I'm on a diet :)

I just wish other people could see how much easier LCHF would be for them.

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I guess people need to be in the right frame of mind to open themselves up to an alternative to what they're used to. Generally we are averse to change and baulk against being taken out of our comfort zones.

I think also, that sometimes, advocates for LCHF, can be a little over zealous and come across as a bit whacko :) In my case, it wasn't the banner waving that won me over, but a very quiet post that introduced a possibility that I'd never contemplated before. It made me want to explore that possibility further and then seek out like-minded others.

We don't want to be told that we're akin to lemmings, mindlessly following those that have gone before us, over the edge of the cliff. We need to be gently reminded that it's ok to be different and that good things can come from breaking away from what's considered to be the "norm" :)

So was it you that started this forum then?

Your nephews wife is doing amazingly, well done her! :)

Thanks once again for always responding kindly to my posts :)

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It makes 2 of us.

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I didn't post a loss last week, because I didn't have one :) However, today, I managed to get down to just over a 3st loss in total :)

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I've been pretty remiss about updating this thread, as it seemed a little self-indulgent as nobody wanted to join me. However, in the interest of the LCHF cause, I should like to announce a total of 4st lost now :)

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Only just realised you were doing lchf Moreless! It's certainly working for you :) x

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morelessโ€ข in reply toFitforit75

Sorry for the delay replying Kate, for some reason my notifications don't work on this forum :)

Oh yes, this way of eating definitely works! :)

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Thanks Anup, you're always there with encouraging words and I really appreciate them :)

Well done for completing 5 years drug free, what an amazing achievement! Well done you :)

I am quietly recruiting members to the LCHF way of life ;)

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So true Anup! :)

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Hello Moreless.

I'll join you on your thread ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

I started LCHF two weeks ago having read thoroughly the diet doctor website. I'm a nurse and nearly every second person we see on the wards these days is overweight and a type 2 diabetic on tablets and/or insulin. I've been nursing for 26 years and there has definitely been a huge increase in the number of diabetics and others with

"lifestyle diseases" in this time. So restricting the carbs made perfect sense to me but I have been hesitant about increasing the fat. I have been using virgin coconut and olive oil and butter for cooking, and even just had double cream in a coffee, which was lovely but had my palms sweating at the thought of it!

I've cut out most carbs and sugar and am aiming for 50gms carb a day. I have been having a few starchy veg such as parsnips and swede, no potatoes and hoping they don't make too much difference.

I'm interested to see you have been following the 16:8 method and have been thinking of doing it myself. How are you finding it?

I'm 50, I have got 6 kgs to lose to my target of 76kgs by June and am hoping to speed things up by joining the gym and focusing on weights rather than cardio.

As you can see I like a chat (!) so look forward to comparing notes soon ๐Ÿ˜„

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morelessโ€ข in reply towesto100

Hi and welcome Westo :)

I'm delighted that you've decided to join me, I've been very lonely here all by myself :)

I've come to the conclusion that those people who follow the LCHF way of life, are slim and trim, so it makes perfect sense to join them :)

When I first started, it was so difficult to do a complete 30 deg turn and swap from low fat to high fat. It seemed totally alien to me and although I'd read the science behind it and agreed wholeheartedly, it was still a huge leap of faith. Fortunately, Bigleg came to my aid and reminded me of a childhood that featured lard, dripping, butter and cream, but not an obese person to be seen and nobody knew what type 2 diabetes was! I'd forgotten this reality during my period of brainwashing in the 80's, where everybody was being told to go low fat and suddenly everyone was becoming fat! :o

The 16:8 for me is easy, because I've never been a breakfast person and only ever ate it when on a "diet"! I rarely feel hungry during this period, but if I really did feel that I needed something to eat, I would. However, I'm not afraid to feel hunger now, because it's actually something that's very normal and something basic that had been missing from my life for a long time. I don't force myself to eat when I'm full either, which I used to do all the time. For the first time, in a great many years, I'm relaxed around food. I don't suffer from cravings and I don't feel the need to have 3 meals a day and 2 snacks, which is what most "healthy eating plans" seem to advocate. I think of food as fuel, not a treat, or a guilty secret. As someone very wise said, I enjoy what I eat, but I don't eat for enjoyment :)

I follow a very strict LCHF diet at the moment, because I have a huge amount of weight to lose. I hope I shall be able to introduce some food items back, when I get to maintenance, but wouldn't be too upset if I wasn't able to. This has to be the easiest diet I've ever followed and believe me, there have been more of those than I care to remember :)

Clever you for doing something about your weight before it got out of hand, you'll probably be shot of those 6kg in about 6 weeks :) Well done for joining the gym, I haven't plucked up the courage to do that yet, but maybe sometime soon.

As you can see, I like to chat too and would love to swap notes with you.

Wishing you all the best :)

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Another 3.125lbs lost :)

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Well done Moreless.

I've stayed the same but it's "that time of the month" and I always put a bit on so looking for a good result next week, but even tho I haven't lost anything a couple of people at work have commented that I'm looking slimmer. I did measure my waist before I started so will have to see if that's shrunk instead.

I've recently changed gyms as the one I was going to was full of "himbos" and although I'm not one to usually feel self conscious I couldn't get the thought out of my head that they were all sniggering at me struggling with my 5kilo weights when really I was probably the last person they were looking at! So now I've joined a lovely fitness club ajoined to a nice resort where the average clientele are more my age or older and mainly female. Even if your mantra is "I'm doing it for me..." It does make a difference where you go so you have to chose your gym carefully.

I am enjoying this LCHF way of eating though and think it's something I shall be able to stick with for ever. Hope you have a good week ๐Ÿ˜€

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morelessโ€ข in reply towesto100

Thank goodness I'm beyond the hormonal aspect of life, so I don't have to worry about that any more.

I totally agree with you about the gym. I haven't plucked up the courage to join one yet, for the very reasons you described. one day maybe, because I would love to have access to weights, to try and tone myself up.

I'm glad you're enjoying the LCHF way of life. Everybody thinks it's so restrictive and must be bad for you, but I find the food choices to be a lot more interesting and satisfying and only occasionally miss the convenience of being able to make a sandwich :)

Hope your week goes well and that you see a loss on the scales next week :)

Hi MoreLess and Westo100,

(oops - sorry - this is a bit long!)

I too am working on the LCHF diet and enjoying it (and your posts) very much. The most amazing thing for me was having my twitchy tendency to pick of an evening dry up within 2 days of starting - suddenly I just wasn't interested in food outside of meals. I am now down to about 1 1/2 meals a day. As I'm Type 2 diabetic and on Metformin; I have 2 pills a day which are slow release. I need to have them 12 hours apart and with food, so I have a slice of ham or smoked salmon at 7am with the morning pill and have the evening pill after a snack at about 6:30pm. At the moment my main meal is at lunchtime. So I can't do the 8:16 fast, but hope that 12:12 provides some of the benefits!

Depending how hungry I am and what mood my husband is in, we usually have lunch between 11am and 2pm - but sometimes it slips to being dinner instead. We range from having bacon with avocado, mushrooms and tomatoes to a Japanese style salmon, veg & noodle soup (my noodles being Courgetti) to a roasted joint with steamed veg stirred through with butter or leeks in a nice butter/cream/cream cheese based sauce, and anything in between.

My husband always wanted to cook everythign with butter and bacon and now his dream has come true. He, being totally happy at 121 kg, is still eating all the carbs as well, chowing down on crumpets, potatoes, crisps and sweets by the handful. He still stays exactly the same weight and sits on the sofa almost all day and night, because getting hot and sweaty is something only mad people do, surely...? If I did no exercise and ate like him I would just get fatter and fatter - unfair, but that's life. I was working at my weight in 2014 for an operation and ended up dropping from 19.5 stone to 18. Recuperating from my operation I got pretty down and put on 1/2 stone doing no exercise and eating bad things, but when my diabetic bloods meant that for the first time in 10 years I was going to have to have some kind of medication for my diabetes (Metformin) it gave me the impetus to start the Couch to 5K, and to start calorie counting. By Christmas 2015 I had lost another stone, but was going up and down the same 1/2 stone between 17 and 17.5.

It was at this point that I came across the LCHF dieting stuff. I am currently 16 stone 5.7 pounds. I am hoping by my birthday (March 18th) that I will have broken the 16 stone barrier for the first time in 24 years or so. This is so much better than any other attempt I've made at dieting or re-educating my eating habits. Although eating lots of fat did seem totally alien at first I seem to have adapted and can see this as a lasting change to my eating behaviours. I get my next diabetic blood tests on 21st March - it will be intersting to see how they come out!

Good luck to both of you - I look forward to reading more of your successes and contributing to your discussions.

Best wishes

Julia

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morelessโ€ข in reply toPurple_faced_woman

Hi Julia,

Wow, three of us that like to chat! I'm beside myself with excitement! :) Never apologise for a long post, because as far as I'm concerned, the longer the better :)

I've always felt a bit of an odd bod on here, because although I've read all the scientific stuff about the LCHF way of life, to be honest, I'm as thick as two short planks and am just happy that it works, never mind how it works :)

Now that I'm over my fat phobia, cooking is a joy and I go through tons of butter and cream and everything tastes delicious. I'm still amazed at how little I need to eat now, to be full, compared to the vast quantities that I used to eat, never feeling full at all!

Fortunately for me, I never stepped into the diabetes territory - more luck than judgement, but there are some extremely knowledgeable people on this forum, who could probably help you get to the stage where you won't need to take the metformin any more. Mind you, I guess it's always possible that your next lot of bloods will be so good that you'll get off them immediately - here's hoping :)

You've done so well with your weight loss, especially as you had to have an operation in the middle of it! I would think that 12:12 fasting is almost as good as 18:6 and certainly better than I used to do, which was eat every waking moment! :o

We both have similar goals, I'm doing an easter bunny challenge on the weight loss forum and have pledged to get into the 14's by easter, which is 7lbs away! I'm also going on holiday on 11th April and would like to be 14st 10lbs by then, because that will be 5st lost :) I'm also hoping to have lost 60lbs by next monday, because that will be me 6 months into my weight loss journey and the LCHF way of life :) You can probably tell that I like to have targets and challenges to keep me focused :D

I'm excited to share our journeys, who knows, maybe others will join us now.

Keep up the good work and keep in touch :)

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Purple_faced_womanโ€ข in reply tomoreless

Hi MoreLess,

Hope your week is going well. I've had a couple of nights where I've slipped a bit - discovered a pack of dates left over from Christmas and munched through them with some walnuts, and a little bit of dark chocolate - urk. Oh well - have determined not to do this again!

Finally getting over 5 weeks of coughing and spluttering, so I went swimming this evening and swam a kilometre. Hoping to get back to running for the next 2 weeks before my blood tests.

I spent this afternoon making smoked mackerel pate and baking no-carb bread (which mostly consists of ground linseeds and egg whites, but makes a surprisingly bread-like loaf that you can actually slice, toast and freeze). I also tried a recipe for a salad from my new LCHF cookbook (chopped parsley, mint, tomatoes, cucumber, spring onions and pine nut kernels) which was fine, but the dressing (juice of a lemon, olive oil, garlic, ground allspice and ground cinammon) was just awful! I'll try another dressing with the other half tomorrow. The kitchen looks like a bombsite - luckily my hubby won't be back for another hour or two which should give me time to clear away the debris.

I don't think you should call yourself thick, m'dear. If any of us needed to understand all the sciencey stuff, you can bet we'd do it, but we don't need to do the brainwork to understand the why so long as we know that it works. I've always been a great fan of Arthur C Clarke's quote "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." I really irritate my sciencey friends when they try to mansplain a bit of technology to me, by looking them brightly in the eye and saying "oh I understand - what you're saying is that it's just magic" - I love to see that little vein in their temple throb!

I hope you achieve your goal on Monday - 60lbs wow! You have done really well. I hope you manage your Easter bunny challenge too. I too am going on holiday in April. My plan with this is to lose as much as I can before-hand and buy lots of new and lovely clothes in the size I've got down to by then. I am currently down to a 22, but am hoping that I might make it to a 22 by then.

Oh dear - I've got sucked into watching the end of "Kull the Conqueror" - mmmMMMmmmm Kevin Sorbo ... maybe the kitchen can wait till morning.

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morelessโ€ข in reply toPurple_faced_woman

Hi again Julia,

I think your slips could have been a heck of a lot worse, so I shouldn't worry about them too much. I'm sure that as time goes on, the urge to eat those things will diminish and it won't even occur to you to eat them :)

I've been meaning to make low carb bread for a while now, but have resisted, for fear that I may go into bread eating mode, which was one of my original big downfalls. It's one of those psychological hurdles I need to get past :) I made a fish pie yesterday, that was to die for! I sauteed leek and courgette in butter and layered in a dish, par cooked some broccoli and added that, lightly fried off a fish pie pack, which consisted of salmon, haddock and yellow died haddock and added that. Poured cream over the whole lot and sprinkled on some parsley and freshly ground black pepper (I didn't need salt, because the butter I'd used was salted and the broccoli was salted). Grated cheese over the top and into the oven to brown. I then topped it with roasted butternut squash. It was deeeeelishus! :)

I love your Arthur C Clarke quote! I shall be using that all the time now! :)

At the moment, I have gone past the 60lb lost, but that could all have changed by monday, I shall just have to keep my fingers crossed :) I'm upping my exercise daily, but may have got a bit carried away with the strength exercises, because my muscles are screaming at me now! :D

I've got 3 weeks tomorrow to achieve my easter bunny challenge and still need to lose 5.5lbs, which seems a big ask, but I shall keep plugging away at it :)

I'm hoping that I won't need to buy many clothes for my holiday and that my wardrobe hold enough items in the correct size - hopefully an 18! :) I don't want to spend a lot of money at this stage of the game, I shall save myself for the shopping orgy when I'm a size 12! :D

Glad to hear that you're getting over your cough and that you swam a whole kilometer! That's a lot of swimming! :) It must be a relief to you to be able to finally resume your running. That's something I'd love to add to my repertoire, but can't envisage ever happening, but, never say never! :)

Enjoy your weekend and we'll chat soon :)

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morelessโ€ข in reply toPurple_faced_woman

Hi Julia, it's been suggested by Anup, that if you wish more informed guidance that relates specifically to your diabetes, then it's probably best to start your own thread, then the experts will be able to help you :) I'm afraid I'm of little assistance to you where that's concerned :)

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Moreless you're amazing! I'm really going to have to look at this LCHF business. I've been doing it half-heartedly, avoiding the carbs and have lost my fear of fat. But carbs are absolutely everywhere! And I don't yet have the strength to refuse them when they're either already on my plate (canteen or restaurant) or placed in front of me (hubby cooking). I've never been at the "not hungry stage" either and snack far too much on nuts and seeds. Skipping breakfast is an option, as I do that at the weekend anyway.

So lots of food for thought on this post.

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morelessโ€ข in reply toJaySeeSkinny

The secret is to grit your teeth for the first couple of days of not eating carbs, until the cravings subside. After that it's easy peasy JC! ;) You can do this, I know it and once you ditch the evil carbs, your body is able to do what it was built to do do - tell you when it's really hungry and let you know when it's full :) I never snack, it's just not necessary.

Come and join us, you won't regret it :)

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Thanks Anup :)

I suspect that's the diet I'm following, although I confess to not counting carbs, or anything else come to that. I just stick to getting my carbs from vegetables.

I bet you'll start losing weight now too :)

Keep up the great work, you're an inspiration to us all! :)

Maybe you could offer Julia/Purple_faced_woman some advice, as she's Type 2 diabetic and I have no real knowledge, or experience to offer her? :)

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1 kilo in 4 days??!! Wow! That's amazing! :)

I bet you'll lose another 3 in next to no time :)

Thanks for your offer of support, I'll suggest to Julia that she start her own thread and maybe Concerned would chip in too :)

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I'm all for a bit of experimenting :D

I have been measuring ketones in my urine too :)

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Morning Moreless and Julia.

Apologies for not replying sooner. Another poster on the weight loss forum mentioned a series on You tube called the Fat Doctor and unfortunately I've been sucked in to it and have watched one a night so my attention to the forums has dropped a bit. It's certainly a boost to my willpower when I see all the fat around the people's organs and also the very poor quality of life they have.

Anyway, good news...I'm down to 81.1 kgs this week so down 800gms!! I'm into the last 5kgs now which is always the hardest to lose but I'll join you in your challenges and try and get to below 80 for the first time in years by Easter.

Since we last spoke, Moreless, I have been doing the 16:8. Well, almost. I have my dinner at 6pm-ish, then my lunch at 1pm the next day but I do have a coffee with double cream when I get up, ( which my husband caught me making the other day and thought it was hilarious ๐Ÿ˜‹ ), so not quite fasting for 16 but it seems to be working, I've lost 4cm from my waist!

You're right in your reply to JaySeeSkinny in that the craving for carbs soon passes, I don't even think about them now although I am starting to miss fruit and wonder if I should reintroduce it...?

Will give your fish pie a try at the weekend too!

Have a good week ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

Tracey

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Hi Tracey,

Well done for dropping 800g and 4 cm off your waist, that's fantastic! :) I watched the Fat Doctor too! It is addictive! :)

I forgot to post my weightloss, but I lost another 3.125lbs, which means I'm less than a pound shy of my 4.5st loss :)

I've also lost a total of 41", from various points around my body :)

Easter's going to be great if we all hit our targets! :)

Well done for managing the fasting, but you're actually doing 18:6/19:5, apart from that creamy coffee! That's pretty hardcore! :o

Don't forget that fruit means sugar and that can start the cravings again. If you are going to reintroduce it, stick to berries and under ripe bananas :)

I hope you like the fish pie, we loved it :)

I'm sorry this is a bit disjointed, but it's late and my brain is functioning even less than normal! :)

Keep up the good work and chat soon :)

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westo100โ€ข in reply tomoreless

Wow Moreless, just over three pounds in a week is fantastic. I thought I was doing well but you're putting me in the shade. You must feel fantastic? ๐Ÿ˜„

Yes, I know my fasting is a bit more than 16:8, but unfortunately I just have to grab my lunch break when I can so today for instance it'll be more like 20:4. I really haven't felt all that hungry, I just have a few walnuts or a couple of celery sticks with some Philladelphia when I get in to tide me over til dinner. I'm starting a new Lean and Strong programme at the gym on Monday so I will have to make an effort to eat a bit more otherwise I shall be a heap on the floor! ๐Ÿ˜ณ

I think I might go a bit longer without the fruit. I'm not really craving it, the peaches, nectarines and plums just looked so tempting when I walked into the supermarket the other day. Ah, well...

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morelessโ€ข in reply towesto100

Thanks Tracey, I do feel great, but we can't compare our losses, don't forget, I'm massively overweight, so my weight is bound to drop quicker and easier than yours :)

It must be difficult to eat regularly when you're not in control of your breaks, that's where I'm so lucky. I'm a big fan of celery and Philly too, but my choice of nuts is macadamias :)

Good luck with your Lean and Strong programme - it sounds a little scary! :o Please don't end up in a heap on the floor! I'm in training for Sports Relief, I'm hoping to complete 100K's over that weekend :)

Good decision with the fruit, remember how tempting crusty bread and jam doughnuts are too ;)

Keep up the good work! :)

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How did it affect your vision?

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I am new to the LCHF plan. How do you know how many calories you should have each day? I eat around 1000-1200, I'm 5'2 and need to lose 50 lbs, but I'm also 53 and post menopausal. I exercise at the gym 3 times a week. Any chart I should be looking at for a healthy goal weight and how many calories to eat?

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morelessโ€ข in reply toedithann1962

I don't count calories at all Edith, I eat when I'm hungry and stop when I'm full. I don't eat any carbs, only what are present in veggies and I don't eat root veggies, or legumes. I eat 1 or 2 meals a day and do the 18:6 fast. Have a small amount of protein (palm size) with each meal and go for fattier cuts. Cook using natural fat, use cheese, butter and cream and that's about it. Oh, I don't eat any fruit either, but I do eat a few macadamia nuts :)

I have to stress that I'm not an expert and what's right for me, may not necessarily be right for someone else. There are a huge number of sites dedicated to LCHF and my advice would be to do a lot of your own research.

As a very rough guide, by the NHS BMI calculator, your healthy weight range is between 7st 3lbs and 9st 11lbs, but I suspect I'll get a lot of stick for daring to mention the BMI calculator, as it's not wholly accurate and is intended only as a very rough guide :)

I hope this helps, welcome to the site and all the best to you :)

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edithann1962โ€ข in reply tomoreless

Thank you so much! I'm happy to have any information to help me. Best to you too :)

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morelessโ€ข in reply toedithann1962

You keep asking, it's the only way to learn :)

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Quick update, for anyone that's interested, I'm just past the 70lb mark now, but the loss has slowed right down :)

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Another update, as I'm 9 months into my journey now. 78.875lbs lost, to date :)

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Thanks Anup, I'm still plugging away :)

How are you getting on, have you lost all the weight that you were wanting to? :)

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That's great! :)

Very sensible, malnourished is not a great look! ;)

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Still going and 100lbs down now! :)

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Thanks Anup! :)

Low Carb all the way, every day! :)

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Hahahahahaha!!! More than that, because I'm working on preventing as many people as I can, from taking that option! :)

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