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ITP: How Does It Feel?

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Immune Thrombocytopenic Purpura (ITP)

-How does it feel to be told that you will likely live for the rest of your years with a rare, mostly unpredictable and unknown autoimmune disorder that will affect your blood’s ability to clot and heal and your immune system’s basic ability to fight off infection?

-How does it feel to be told that there is little to no information about your disorder, that every case is different and unique, and will most likely eventually couple with a number of other autoimmune disorders as you age?

- How does it feel to be told that you need to change, stop, or modify everything in your current life because your greatest risk is having a brain hemorrhage?

- If that's not enough, also to be told that stress along with exposure to germs is going to be number factor in maintaining stable health.

– That there is no long term plan for the treatment of your disorder and all you can do is suppress your immune system and manage the side effects?

-As different treatments become available, we can weigh the risk factors & side effects. All of this just to discuss the possible changes in order to move forward with a new maintenance health plan.

*This is a compilation of ideas gathered from various writers over the years. I put them together to organize how I feel about MY Primary Chronic Genetic ITP.

Thank you for reading my post and as always forgive my typos, misspellings, & imperfections.

Wishing you and those you love much Love, Light, and Laughter along your Journey. Namaste

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Topography52_- profile image
Topography52_-

It sucks : (

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PKScott in reply to Topography52_-

Thank you for your reply to my post. yes sometime it does. I have learned that through the years that it is a roller coaster.

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Topography52_- in reply to PKScott

It can be a rollercoaster just like yourself and others on this forum one day we will all get off : ))

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Topography52_-

PKScott, ITP sucks I find the hardest thing is trying to explain how I am feeling when people assume you are OK with some illnesses you can see ITP is our invisible illness.

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PKScott in reply to Topography52_-

Thank you for your reply. I agree. ITP is an invisible illness most of the time. I write most of the time because there are the times when the bruises are apparent but through the years one can become very good at clever clothing to hid those. ITP is a challenging disease to live with however, I have learned that it is manageable. I would prefer a cure.

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Castle155

To be Brutaly honest it's s... since I was told and have been on treatment I've not felt well and that was about 3 yrs ago. Onwards & upwards.

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PKScott in reply to Castle155

Thank you for your reply and your honesty. I have learned that sometimes the treats can be very difficult to manage. I have also learned that there are many option available for ITP. I do like that I am able to be my own health advocate and my doctor is my guide. What I mean by this, is that I know Prednisone works to improve my PLT counts but I can hardly tolerate the medication so I opt not to take it. My doctor would prefer me to take it because it is easier for them but in the long run, I am the one who has to live in my body so we have worked together to find other options like IVIG and NPLATE which I tolerate better and I get the same result.

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dunn258 in reply to PKScott

What is IVIG and NPLATE? I do not want to take prednisone; the side effects are not worth it and my doctor also wants me to take it but she does not have to go through the side effects....please let me know..thank you

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PKScott in reply to dunn258

nplatehcp.com/?utm_source=b...

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webmd.com/a-to-z-guides/imm...

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PKScott in reply to dunn258

I have provided you with links to help you begin your research into these ITP treatments. I would urge you to learn all you can by doing independent research. Then create a list of questions for your doctor, and for other ITP individuals.

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dunn258 in reply to PKScott

thank you very mud PKScott

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Lynnek

I was diagnosed10yrs ago & knew nothing. Very little information available.

I was over cautious for some time but now I take life as it comes but I'm still cautious. I accepted the condition and found it funny that people on holiday thought I was a battered wife (my husband didn't find it funny).

I get on with my life the best I can but I find the fatigue hard to deal with, I wish Dr's and Haemotologists would recognise fatigue as part of the condition.

It's a rare, hidden condition. More publicity is needed to raise awareness of this condition.

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PKScott in reply to Lynnek

Thank you for your reply. I agree with your post. If you are not familiar with the PDSA organization I urge you to check them out. Who I was diagnosed I believe I was the only person in the world for about 3 years. I could find nothing on this disease. It was coupled with cancers, pregnancy, and treated and a secondary function of something larger therefore no real attention was paid to treatment much less a cure. The PDSA was formed about 17 years ago and its primary focus is ITP.

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dunn258 in reply to PKScott

How do I get PDSA?

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PKScott in reply to dunn258

pdsa.org

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Angel1954 in reply to Lynnek

Hi, I also have had the reaction that I am a battered wife. I does not phase me or my husband, close friends and family all know that that isn't the case, so we don't worry about it. I was only diagnosed with ITP in March of this year and my Consultant is still trying to find a treatment which works. First was Steroids which didn't work so I am now reducing them as well as having Remuxitab by IV for1 day per week over 4 weeks ( have had 2 so far) after 1 treatment my Platelet count had risen from 0 to 4, progress? I am still awaiting for the results of a Bone Marrow Biopsy The worse thing I have found is the fatigue, I have never felt so tired in all my life, even simple things like getting washed, dressed and washing my hair leave me exhausted. I have had to go on sick leave from work as I can not physically do my job, apart from the risk of bruising or bleeding. I am lucky in that I am nearing retirement and think about how much worse it is for anybody younger.

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PKScott in reply to Angel1954

Fatigue is a real part of ITP. Stress is something that tends to hand in hand with ITP too. Stress I have found through my ITP journey is very dangerous and can cause my PLT's counts to go down. I try to rest when I can and to minimize my stress. By doing these two things in my life I feel as though I have helped to manage my ITP better.

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Monty55555

I am soon to have my spleen taken out due to having been on all the drugs and nothing seems to bring my platelets up, after my scans on my spleen it is showing that my spleen is destroying my platelets so the decision has been made to take it out. This is the next chapter of my ITP story

Tom

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Esther66 in reply to Monty55555

How long have you had low platelets, what did it drip to for them to decide to remove your spleen? Did they give you s bone marrow biopsy?

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Monty55555 in reply to Esther66

They have tested my bone marrow and it come back fine. I have tried every drug on the market but none haven't held my platelets up they always drop to 0 so there isn't no more options, and as the scans show that my spleen is destroying them is would seem that by removing it may have a good result

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Esther66 in reply to Monty55555

I had Bone Marrow biopsy 4 weeks ago but didn't get enough bone so still haven't got a true reading, my Scan did show that my spleen as got bigger, it's now 13,5 cm because my platelets is at 74 I'm still on wait and watch, I also have lymphoma which could be another reason for mine dropping,

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Monty55555 in reply to Esther66

I'm sorry to hear they didn't get enough bone marrow to test it, as I know how much that hurts Ester

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Bluebuzz in reply to Monty55555

Best of luck Tom.. I really hope you get well after this operation. I say it wasn't easy making a big decision like this.

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Monty55555 in reply to Bluebuzz

Thank you, I really really hope so too. I have got a date for the operation now, it’s all abit real now. The thing is from my scans it does show that my spleen is destroying my platelets so by removing it could prove to be successful. At present we have tried every drug on the market and none of them have worked. The only thing that works is ivig but they don’t know the long term effect of this drug and also would mean I would have to keep going into hospital every 2 weeks which isn’t ideal so we are hoping for a more longer solution.

Thanks Tom

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PKScott in reply to Monty55555

Thank you for reply to my post. I am pleased to read that you had the scan prior to the operation. In the States that is rarely done. I had my spleen removed over 14 years ago with the scan and that was not the cause of my ITP. I have read very positive accounts of this being effective. Wishing you much success in your future journey!

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Monty55555 in reply to PKScott

I'm sorry to hear that it doesn't get scanned in the states, I'm lucky enough to get it scanned here in the uk.

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ITPAffecty

Did you said Genetic?? Now am more scared, I dont want my 4.5 yr old daughter too face all the trauma I faced. I could see small bruises on her legs but scared to take her for test.!!

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PKScott in reply to ITPAffecty

Yes, we have reason to believe that my ITP is genetic. I had my daughter tested at birth and then at a year. She has a stable PLT count today. However, I am not afraid if she does develop ITP. This is why. ITP has come leap and bounds in the last 10 years and it is not longer a disease in the shadows. With organization like the PDSA and groups such as this awareness for ITP has become more mainstream. This mean new drugs and a focus on a cure is now happening. This all very positive news. Don't be scared to take her for a test. The more information you have at hand, the better prepared you will be as a parent to handle what ever comes your way. No matter what it is, everything will be okay.

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ITPAffecty in reply to PKScott

Thanks a lot for your kind words. I am in dilemma whether to take her for test or not. If it comes positive, then in her every action, i might become too protective becoz of the condition. Anyway I dont want her to get treated even she has ITP. May be if I see bruises often, I better get her tested.!!

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PKScott in reply to ITPAffecty

As parents, we will always be protective. I believe thats a good thing. Instead of gymnastics, try swimming with her... you know :) Like I said before, It'll work out.

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Lynney11

I was shocked to read this post. It is total scaremongering!! I was diagnosed 9 years ago but received no treatment until 2013 when my count nosedived, but at no time before or since have I felt anything like the writer of this post. OK there is no cure -yet - but for goodness sake don't give up and assume the worst. There are so many people, frightened people, who will read this post and start panicking. If you read my posts I try to give people hope, and a sense of well being. I have never given up and accept that I have a condition, I never call it an illness, which is being managed successfully (I know I am lucky in that respect), I will not let it beat me and I just get on with my life. I suspect that PKScott has only just recently been diagnosed, and if this is so I know you must be feeling wretched, but please do not give up, pessimism will only exacerbate the problems.

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PKScott in reply to Lynney11

Thank you for your reply. First let me write that my post was never written to scare you and I sincerely and honestly send my deepest regrets to you for having that reaction. My post was created over many years and it was posted here and in order to create a dialog between fellow-ITPer's who have such unique and personal ITP journey's.

I am so glad that you never felt like any thing in my original post. That is wonderful to read. I agree that is important to give people hope and a sense of well being. I also agree that it is import to be honest and yet kind. Have the sense of a well managed autoimmune disease such as ITP (or a condition as you like to call it) gives on a peace of mind that irreplaceable. Count your blessings, continue to focus on the positive, and never give.

Just a little information about me so we are no assuming... I was diagnosed almost 15 years ago. I am currently asymptomatic with a walking around count in the 30K range. Being asymptomatic I opt for no treatments. Please feel free to ask me any thing you would like about my ITP Journey. Please remember tone is not inherent in writing so when in doubt assume the best.

Wishing you love, light, and laughter, Namaste.

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Lynney11 in reply to PKScott

Thank you for responding. Your original post did not scare me, but I thought that it might have scared others of a less optimistic frame of mind. I hope my reply did not offend you - as you say tone cannot be conveyed in writing. You are very fortunate in that you are asymptomatic - I sincerely hope you stay that way. Happy and kind thoughts.

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PKScott in reply to Lynney11

;) no offense, none at all. I appreciate all responses. I have learned through the years that all responses will be different, just like our ITP Journeys. I wish you the same. Many happy and Kind thoughts.

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ChrisCal

Well that's a big post!! I guess I have been lucky, I have not stopped anything I do. The tiredness comes and goes but genuinely I had never given it a second thought. I work full time in a job which takes a lot of hours. I was diagnosed in 1989, at that point the really did not know much about anything and for the first 10 years or so I took it very seriously then I realized everything I took everything they did was so short lived there was no point. I can't even tell you the new treatment options despite waking up most mornings covered in bruises and nose bleeds galore! Just relax, you will be fine, if you feel tired get up and do something. Start exercise, I run most days and yes I get bruises on my legs and feet but what can I do? I get home pop some ice on to limit them then repeat the next day. If you just focus on doing a little more each day soon you won't even remember you have it! So much so I have even signed up to a boxing match (maybe will get a blood test before that though)

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Tenk in reply to ChrisCal

Love it. All of the above positive posts have just made my day. Thank you

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PKScott in reply to ChrisCal

Thank you for your reply. Your reply made me smile. 1989 diagnosis, I can not even imagine your treatment options. Keep moving forward!! Love it!

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tgk62

After dealing with it for a time it became my new normal. No need to freak out. Unless I have bleeding symptoms I go for checks with my hems and get on with life. I wish ITP was the worst of my ailments to deal with now. I seem to collect rare diagnoses. It's all relative. A family member was Diagnosed With lung cancer this week. Another passed away from having his tonsils removed at age 37. So my issue s don't seem as looming over my head as what others are dealing with. Do your best to take care of yourself and live your life and try to focus on the positive things going on

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PKScott in reply to tgk62

Thank you for your reply. I have to agree with you. ITP is my new normal. It took me some time to get there but once you get there you can find that balance. I am sorry to read about the lung cancer and tonsils at 37.

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Tenk

Goodness. I was just saying to my boss yesterday how positive I find this online support group. That post above is truly the opposite. If you need support because you are having a hard week, please just admit that. If you really must promote how bad ITP is, maybe you could tell your friends who DON'T have it, write to your elected representative and your local paper.

Mostly I am struggling right now to stay positive and came on here for some balanced and cheering support.

For five months since diagnosis I have been up and down.

My recent nosedive has led to today's single figure count and mouth blood blisters.

I am feeling blue and exhausted. But I know this low won't last. It didn't last time. I just need to be gentle with myself.

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PKScott in reply to Tenk

Thank you for your response. I find your last sentence to be best and true for most everyone.

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Angel1954 in reply to Tenk

Thank you for your positive post. You sound very much like myself, in that you will live your life as well as you can, even though ITP can limit a lot of things and you are still coming to terms with your diagnosis. I have found that my family have been brilliant and I would say it has brought my husband and myself closer, which is great because after 45 years of marriage I think you tend to take each other for granted. I am enjoying my time off work by reading, gentle gardening and light housework but also getting plenty of rest when needed. When you get a diagnosis like ours it is hard to be positive because of all the unknowns but pages like this can give insight into how ITP affects other people and everybody reacts differently. Keep smiling and think positive

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Tenk

How does it feel to know that every time you walk into your oncology and haematology department of your local hospital, you received an all clear for leukaemia just five months ago and most of the people waiting to see a doctor all around you are battling the cancer you escaped?

How does it feel to know that you have to slow down, but then realise that you've been meaning to take more time with your children, friends, family anyway?

How does it feel to know that the best cure for fatigue is sleep? And that this medicine is free!

How does it feel to know that you could try some alternative therapies and alter your diet - even if they just give you a different outlook on life, a physical and mental boost, and a trimmer figure? Oh, and you've been meaning to do that for a while too.

How does it feel to know that for most people with ITP, they live normal lives, carrying on with work, family, new love, travel, children, pregnancy and childbirth, sports, enjoying the outdoors, going out for drinks with friends?

How does it feel to know that you are doing the very best you can under sometimes difficult circumstances?

How does it feel to know that 99% of people on this forum post supportive, helpful messages; but also are brave enough to ask for help when things are going tough?

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PKScott in reply to Tenk

Thank you for your reply. Those are some great questions. I know for sure that people ask themselves those questions. I am glad that you took this time to think of those and to share.

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PKScott

Thank you all for taking the time to read the original post and taking the time respond. I wish you all much love, light, and laughter on your unique and personal ITP journey. Namaste.

PK Scott...

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Broderj2

Its scary like a rollercoaster but 25 years on its just part of who I am. I have raised 2 fabulous children returned to work and studied for a degree and professional exams. There is so much more information now. Having my spleen removed has helped with stable counts but risk of infection and fatigue are reminders of ITP.

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vernmary

My first post. I was diagnosed about 3 weeks ago when I went to the doctor because of bruising and I thought rash on my lower legs. I was sent for labs and returned home. I received a call from the nurse to get to the ER now. She said my platelets were a problem. So, I spent the afternoon in the ER room having platelets for lunch as my platelet count was only 3000. I was told it was a matter of life and death. I had never heard of this disorder and I didn't understand why I was in the ER room when I felt so good. I was sent to a hematologist, who confirmed the diagnosis and told me the story of ITP. I had been diagnosed with lupus many years ago and struggled with it and RH. I was to the point in my history that I only had joint pains and just thought that is part of aging and I am very lucky. Now, this other auto immune disorder comes to tickle my belly and remind me that life isn't finished with me just yet. So, 100mg of prednisone for awhile, then down 20mg weekly. Therapy for 4 months of this and hopefully that will help me. My platelets rose to 22,000, then to 55,000 and yesterday at 112,000. It's a pleasure to meet you all and under the circumstances, I wish you all well.

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Asimkumar

Homeopathy and Ayurveda both help.

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sassysue12

I was told I had ITP about 3yrs ago, was in hospital for 4 days and steroids on and off for a month or so. Platelets have been in normal range ever since and not one symptom of ITP since. Had major surgery and did fine. I really question my diagnosis. I was told if I see bruising or those little red dots that were on my legs to come back to doc. So you never know the future. Good luck.

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lsued

This has been my reality for 17 years now. There is no way for anybody to understand what we're going thru. Just when you think you'll get used to it, something changes. I keep charts of everything I take and every test I have in hopes of someday finding a pattern.

This last days have been specially hard, the treatments that have worked for me before are no longer effective. Last hope, splenectomy. But I refuse to have it because it doesn't work for most people. Life is certainly challenging with ITP. What kills me is the uncertainty. Not knowing what to plan because you might have to cancel them. I've missed christmases, special family events, trips. Most recently almost missed my only daughters college graduation.

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PKScott in reply to lsued

I have found that there are a lot more unknowns in life than there are knowns. With that in mind, I try to make the best choices I can about my ITP journey with the information I have. I had a splenectomy. It didn't work for me. However at the time, it was my best choice. I cannot live my life in fear of the unknowns, I have to take each day as they come and live in the right now no matter how nervous I may be of making a mistake. Somedays are better than other for me, but I would not change any of them.

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bjcavite

I was in a situation wherein I can’t imagine myself in this kind of a no-cure blood disorder, though my hema doc also qualified that about 5% also successfully got their cure. And I remember saying to him, “I’m one of that 5%, Doc!” Guess that did it, with my platelet restored back to its normal count after 4-days of IVIG. I maintained the positive stance all throughout the less than 6-months journey in weaning down from Prednisone and even until now. That was in December of 2013…now I’m getting 65 yo in a matter of 2 months; and with all my platelet counts maintained normal for 6-years, I hope ITP is indeed completely behind me now. Well I guess, bottom line is--- happy outlook in life, eat the right kind of food (and I mean possibly all-natural food) and maintain having the right positive attitude.

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PKScott in reply to bjcavite

This is great to read. From my understanding, there is no cure and there is no known particular cause for ITP. So I think you are right on many levels. A positive outlook on life will reduce the stress in one's life and help one's body be at its best. Eating the best quality food will also help the body maintain what the mind is doing with a positive outlook. I am so glad to read that you are in the 5%. Many continued blessing to you and to those you love. Many more years of heath and happiness!

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