Pre-diabetes and the NHS prevention program.

Hi everyone,

As we have many members who are pre-diabetic and with it being January how many of you are struggling to get into your clothes and want to lose a pound or two?

Type 2 diabetes has some serious consequences so it is well worth taking steps to prevent it rather than treat it, as type 2 diabetes is best avoided in the first instance.

For those of you who do struggle with weight those of us who are not over weight tend to have more energy and feel healthier as we are not carrying extra weight that puts a strain on our vital organs and our bodies.

Here's the NHS prevention program:

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Weight loss badges are now available to members to encourage weight loss and weight loss that is sustainable, which is the key in my opinion as how many of you diet put oil weight diet etc etc...

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A very good post Jerry and very encouraging.

It's good to have excellent members like Zest on the forum where she's very open and honest about what she's eating, that's encouragement as well.

Alicia 😀

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Thanks Alicia I agree that we should be open and honest about what we eat and Zest like yourself is one of our stars and we appreciate your input.

Jerry 😊

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Thank you Jerry.

I also appreciate the support from the Administrators on HU, it's a very good forum and I've learnt a lot from it.😀

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Thank you Alicia thats appreciated as we are all part of HU support forums and it works for all of us...😀

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We certainly are, its an excellent forum, I've recommended to a few of my friends who have health issues. A problem shared is a problem halved as they say.👍😀

[Zest in reply to Hidden]

Thanks to you both for your kind comments - I love this forum, such a great community.

Zest

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You are welcome Zest and it certainly is encouraging to see your posts about your stats on a weekly basis.

Alicia

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That's a great saying! Thank you for mentioning it.

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You are welcome. Admins are worth their weight in gold.

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Hey I better put on some weight then Alicia...😂

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Ha ha, love your style Jerry

[Fran182716 Prediabetic]

Really interesting to read Hidden , if this had been available this time last year I would have qualified for a referral, but my blood sugars are well below the referral level now which is a very good thing!. I’m pleased people will now be able to get support across the country as it has always been dependent on where you lived before.

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Thank you Fran I think it's great that these things are going on and what we need do is raise awareness of them to reverse and prevent type2.

Very well done yourself for getting your blood sugar levels down I'm sure that you feel better for it.

Jerry 😊

[Zest]

Hi Hidden

Thanks for this information, it's great, and thanks for all you do - plus all the Admins and contributors to this great forum.

Zest

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Thank you Zest thats very much appreciated 😊

[TheAwfulToad]

The DPP is a very good idea, but the words "stable door" and "bolted" spring to mind. The programme seems woefully underfunded, the associated low-carb programme seems to be nothing more than an app (with no support from GPs), and the NHS in general are still handing out their disastrous EatWell plate advice ... thus ensuring a constant flow of people seeking out the Diabetes Prevention Programme.

I'd recommend to anyone who thinks they might be at risk to simply educate themselves on the dietary drivers of diabetes (which basically boils down to excessive processed carbohydrates in the context of a very-low-fat diet). It's pretty easy to prevent diabetes:

- Eat wholesome, minimally-processed food, with plenty of veg and natural fats.

- Don't automatically add bread, rice, pasta or potatoes to every single meal.

- Avoid anything that says "low fat" or "heart healthy" on it, and avoid dubious stuff in jars and packets with a long list of ingredients.

- Do some exercise.

If the NHS could get this message out there in the first instance - instead of waiting until people actually have diabetes - it might save them a few billion quid and save a lot of heartache.

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Thanks TheAwfulToad you've given some great advice here, what I think is important to help prevent diabetes is for us to discuss it like we are now, because I'm not diabetic or even pre diabetic and nor are all the members who've joined the thread. So if we can steer people away from diabetes with us being the Healthy Eating forum then we should.

In 2017 in the UK 29% off the population were obese and another 35%+ are over weight this is a shocking 64%+ of the population, so we all have to do something to help prevent more obesity and diabetes.

Have you come across Fiona Godlee, because I believe you have similar views on treating type 2.

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No, but I'll google her.

Dr David Unwin is doing sterling work, handing out the same prosaic advice I posted above. He's working mostly with pre-diabetics or people newly diagnosed, and at the last count he's having something like 80%+ success. It's really not complicated, and once people realise this they become very enthusiastic.

You're right that the rate of chronic disease is absolutely shocking. Bear in mind that those figures don't even account for people who have subclinical symptoms; my suspicion is that close to 90% of the UK population are suffering to some degree from the disastrous advice we're being given, and the enforced compliance (I've noticed that almost all supermarket food now is high-carb low-fat by default; you have to search really hard to find the unprocessed versions).

EDIT: just looked her up. She seems to be an interesting character, on a crusade against corruption, misdiagnosis, overdiagnosis, and inappropriate prescribing. I'll read more.

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Here's some info. on Type 2. Go to: drwf.org.uk/understanding-d...

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Hey I like that TAT, low fat high carb that's a very astute observation. I don't buy ready meals and see the free from aisles as free from nutrition so yes we have to do something as we are a consumer society and have to been too successful getting people to over consume...

I'll check out Dr Unwin so thanks for that.

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>> see the free from aisles as free from nutrition

Indeed It's yet another cynical scam. The general public think they're buying healthy food, when in fact they're just buying the same old rubbish with different artwork on the boxes.