COURT PIP APPEAL BY PHONE OR ONLINE BEST

[Symundo]

Hi Everyone. Just short question.

I’m going to appeal the decision that pip left all my head injuries out.

I chatted with a nice lass on here but forgot.

Is it best doing the court appeal in first instance online through the gov site or telephone ?

I maybe better being online because I can read and make my disputes and jot them to to copy and paste on there online form.

Otherwise being asked questions I get puddled and confused.

I suppose I’ve just answered my own question,

Anyone that’s done this with head injury, short term

Memory, forgetting what your doing etc etc etc etc. To help me know my frame of mind to answer the questions ?

I’ve got to do in next couple of days so anything would be good

Anyone that’s been through it would help a great deal. I keep forgetting to do the form, then get to it and asks me why. And I’ve got to read there form reply again that I’ve forgot.

Thanks in advance and bite me, if no one replies. Joking

[Hidden]

I got the CAB to help me. I got PIP first time around but for the work capacity assessment it ended in the situation that you are in. There are no tick boxes for BI, to be fair the assessor said make the mandatory appeal by just phoning the DWP, make sure they have all the medical evidence and a decision will be made. I remember I got really stressed out by the whole situation and had been on the verge of homelessness for months. Go through the mandatory appeal procedure, make sure they have the medical evidence or the contact details of your GP and brain injury service and wait for the result. In the mean time make an appointment with the CAB or other body to help you through it. Remember memory problems are a cognitive impairment and therefore a disability, you should be entitled to help. Hope that helps.

[Symundo in reply to Hidden]

Thanks Pink Eye. Great help. Is CAB, citizens advice ? I foogled it and They came up loads of times.

If I don’t ask anyone. Who defends me?

Good of you to get back to me, cheers. I’m glad it worked out for you.

[Hidden in reply to Symundo]

Yep citizens advice. It may also be a good idea to phone the headway helpline and ask for advice on whether you can get other kinds of help with making formal decisions, appeals and representations. Have you been advised by your GP or neuropsychologist that you may experience problems with information processing and should get advice when dealing with formal bodies, ie DWP etc. It may be a good idea to find out. I was advised not to deal with formal decisions and signed a form giving the CAB the power to handle my formal applications etc. The rules are a little weird where the DWP are concerned but it can be done.

[Symundo in reply to Hidden]

Cheers. I’ve just got to try and get my head into gear to contact them. I’m already late. I’ve had no help. Had diagnosis over the years. That I sent to PIP that the DWP did a report on me years ago. And with TBI nothing changes, but for some reason they think it does. But I can’t undo a TBI. Where my memory is stuck over 15 years ago. With no new memory recall. Thanks again.

[Symundo in reply to Hidden]

Hi Pinky, Thanks for your advice. All went great. CAB was great. The local council with defence was great. Court wasn’t to bad and not like the Spanish Inquisition that I thought it would be. I had notes in front to remind me of meds etc when they asked me so not to get puddled, that helped. I won.

Cheers again

Sy

[Hidden in reply to Symundo]

Nice one my son, back of the net.

[Symundo in reply to Hidden]

He Scores. GOOOOAAALLLL. 👍😁

[Painting-girl in reply to Symundo]

Awesome! 😊 X

[Symundo in reply to Painting-girl]

Thanks. 🤪😁

[Pairofboots]

Generally the rule of the jungle is to do everything in writing and keep records. I would definitely get the assessment report, that gives you the order and headings you are disputing. I had similar re PIP, but I was lucky to have a ministry of health approved Dr's report which completely trashed the Atos fabrication.

Sometimes it seems easy to do things by phone, but unless you have the facility to record what is discussed, you have no evidence to fall back on.

I did my own appeal, but I wouldn't generally recommend it, I am a retired nurse, so am used to evidencing reports like what was needed in this case.

[Symundo in reply to Pairofboots]

Cheers. Does the appeal start when you fill the form in online or do they contact you again for more info or ask questions.

I was just wondering if it’s ok to dispute what they say in the letter replying online and contact CAB after ?

It’s just my attention and doing something takes me forever.

[Pairofboots in reply to Symundo]

It starts as soon as you register the dispute, it's best to get your additional evidence together at the time of appeal. You need to demonstrate why the original decision was incorrect. They won't accept like mum might say "because".

[Symundo in reply to Pairofboots]

Yep. Ok. I sent them tons of paperwork that they obviously didn’t read. I’ve just emailed CAB. I have injuries that cause other problems that these dosy sods don’t realize that 4 shattered limbs with arthritis causes a world of pain, making my memory and attention span worse where I can’t do anything at all.

They just see them as separate individual problems that can be sorted, but unless your giving me new arms and legs, there’s a fat chance in that.

Looks like I might be on my own because my injury list just confuses everyone.

Cheers mate

[Pairofboots in reply to Symundo]

That is half the problem, they don't have the sense to put everything together. It's pen pushers that decide, not medics.

I'm sure that they knock back some in the hopes you give up.

Keep up the good fight.

[Symundo in reply to Pairofboots]

Very true. They don’t put things together.

Cheers Mate

[Symundo in reply to Pairofboots]

Hi Big Wellies,

Thanks for your advice. All went great. CAB was great. The local council with defence was great. Court wasn’t to bad and not like the Spanish Inquisition that I thought it would be. I had notes in front to remind me of meds etc when they asked me so not to get puddled, that helped. I won.

Cheers again

Sy

[Saltness]

Hello I have been sorting my Son’s affairs now for 7 years. P.I.P was a nightmare for us. However through a very good person in our local CAB we won the battle without court. Thankfully it was the work of this person corresponding . Sorry it can’t answer you immediate question but certainly was worth getting a person like we had and I am sure they are around. Maybe Headway has a qualified person?

[Symundo in reply to Saltness]

Ok thanks Salty, I’ll save a day if I can to see what headway say as well.

I’m just fed up with people saying I sound ok, or you don’t look injured. That’s it’s society that if they don’t see it, it doesn’t exist. It’s exactly the same with this virus 🦠.

I’ve forgot now what I’m going to do.

Oh yes. Thanks. Citizens advice.

I just go mad explaining my injuries and TBI because it’s so intertwined that it even confuses me explaining.

[Symundo in reply to Symundo]

Latest : I just tgot a letter from court to say all is ok to push on with PiP. Even though I was two months late.

Now PiP has to show all there paperwork to me.

If they don’t reply in 2 weeks or a month (forgot which) the court will remind them and give them a little more time.

So thanks for all your help.

The citizens advice was great, dealt with everything quickly.

Cheers again guy 😁😁😁

[Symundo in reply to Saltness]

Hi Salty,

Thanks for your advice. All went great. CAB was great. The local council with defence was great. Court wasn’t to bad and not like the Spanish Inquisition that I thought it would be. I had notes in front to remind me of meds etc when they asked me so not to get puddled, that helped. I won.

Cheers again

Sy

[Georgiab123]

It might be better to go to court appeal in person, then they can see in your face your problems, I did and they were lovely my problems were with motability but it make a farce of what the assessor said

[Symundo in reply to Georgiab123]

-Yes true. Good point. But all my problems there not seen by anyone when fully clothed except the neck tracki where I have to strip of for someone to see all the surgical scars all over the place.

Even with pandemic people are if they don’t see it, it doesn’t exist. Plus never leave the house, and when I do I wear dark sunglasses (photophobia) baseball cap and walking as if I started drinking at 7am.

So any bank I used to walk in had clear fright in there faces.

I’ll see how it goes.

Pip has been that slow with my case, they’ll probably take a lottery for the unlucky person to defend them cos the clearly made a cock up.

Cheers for the advice GeorgiGab

[Georgiab123 in reply to Symundo]

Please never give up mine took a full year my nerves were shattered my family helped me get there you definitely need it to help you , there’s a doctor there not just legal people

[Symundo in reply to Georgiab123]

Cheers. I won’t. Least, I’ll try not to. I’m six months behind on my list of to do in post it notes. So just have to remember. Luckily it’s all by mail so I have the paperwork there in front of me.

[Symundo in reply to Georgiab123]

Hi George, I just got a ton of paper from DLA PIP.

The confusing thing is I’m in extreme pain sitting and more walking. The DLA understood this. But PIP has ignored it completely as well as me TBI.

I noticed no questions in pain with PIP. Why they leave an important think out where I’m stuck in bed in pain.

Just seems so obscured that pains ignored.

Any pointers 🤪

[Georgiab123 in reply to Symundo]

Hi get in touch with welfare rights they get someone to come see you and it was the best thing I done , he put a lovely letter in

[Symundo in reply to Georgiab123]

Great thanks. Whose welfare rights with if I foogle it ?

Citizens advise mentioned for me to contact someone once I got the paperwork but I forgot.

[Georgiab123 in reply to Symundo]

Good luck just plod on don’t forget x

[Symundo in reply to Georgiab123]

Hi George,

Thanks for your advice. All went great. CAB was great. The local council with defence was great. Court wasn’t to bad and not like the Spanish Inquisition that I thought it would be. I had notes in front to remind me of meds etc when they asked me so not to get puddled, that helped. I won.

Cheers again

Sy

[Georgiab123 in reply to Symundo]

Great still some good people out there, I could tell be your message you were struggling, just enjoy life now x

[Symundo]

I’ll try. Thanks. 🤨